New PB on pump gas! Dolsvt00 tune

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see below!

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Yes I know I suck at taking pics

[csikx]

Congrats bro! I wanna tag along next time. Is that Bowman?

[DolSVT00]

http://home.comcast.net/~rsmith1/matt.jpg

The Non-Dyslexic Version

And for the questions that will obviously come up, yes it was pump 93, and thr reason for low MPH is his 180* downstream air temps had dropped the timing from 8* (yes his max timing was 8*) to 5.75 by the end of the run.

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Yes Boman and your welcome to come anytime! You should put that thing down the track!

[Lurch]

Great Number's WOW :yourock:

[Lurch]

What tire's were you running? TKS Lurch!!?:cheers

[CINDERBLOCK]

Great Number's WOW :yourock:

:bigthumb:

[DolSVT00]

What tire's were you running? TKS Lurch!!?:cheers

28" hoosiers on Baja's

Heres his log. That KB2.3 gets HOT
http://home.comcast.net/~rsmith1/Mattlog.JPG

[chrisheltra]

http://home.comcast.net/~rsmith1/matt.jpg

The Non-Dyslexic Version

And for the questions that will obviously come up, yes it was pump 93, and thr reason for low MPH is his 180* downstream air temps had dropped the timing from 8* (yes his max timing was 8*) to 5.75 by the end of the run.

Thank you I was just getting ready to post a fixed version.

I guess JDM isnt the only one who can make fast trucks.

[Lurch]

Those are some bad a$$ numers on and gas let alone 93, Just would like to know tire's Please Once again Congradulation's to you and Randy Lurch!!:yourock:

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28 hoosiers on bajas

[BigdaddyDupree]

28" hoosiers on bajas

[chrisheltra]

28" hoosiers on Baja's

28 hoosiers on bajas

28" hoosiers on bajas

+1

[Lurch]

WOW that is awesome! 28" is even more impressive To all Involved Congradulation's that is badd A$$ I will be coming for all of you in a Extended cab truck soon as I finish building it Let'[s keep it friendly) Again You Guy Rock and Great Numbers Randy Great Tuning and If you did not recive my P.M.'s I apoligise I did need some help and was Mad you folks did not reply sorry if you did not get my pm's I know chris did let by gone's be as such. Again Congratulation's and Have a great week Lurch!!:yourock:

[DolSVT00]

BTW thats a Gerald built tranny and a Cameron converter, the SOB sounds like a power-glide running down the track. Its the only Lightning I have ever heard that you cant even hear the 1-2 shift and the log barely shows it, it happens so fast that everytime he made a pass it sounded like he left it in second because all I heard was the 2-3 at the other end of the track.

[CINDERBLOCK]

BTW thats a Gerald built tranny and a Cameron converter, the SOB sounds like a power-glide running down the track. Its the only Lightning I have ever heard that you cant even hear the 1-2 shift and the log barely shows it, it happens so fast that everytime he made a pass it sounded like he left it in second because all I heard was the 2-3 at the other end of the track.

YES Gerald built one fing bad ass trans. Its been built for a few months now and I can not get over how fast and clean it shifts.

[Lurch]

I would like to compare mine to his? as I said I did My home work Ford wanted 7700 hundred, I paid 3500.00 for mine with a 10 clutch intermeadiate clutch pack, Ours has a 5 clutch pack, my clutches are Kevlar, and when it goes to OD and the converter locks it feels like a Gear, I and pleased with it. Good job on the tune and build I Pmed you for a weld on bungs AND never herd nothing back I don't have ss Mig Have a great Weekend, I have a Extended cab truck from California that I will be at the track soon with a prp and I mwant to make it Haul A$$ might hook up with you if you will TKS Mitch!!
:yourock:

[DolSVT00]

I would like to compare mine to his?
I'm sure it will hold up fine, and if it don't, I KNOW Gerald stands behind his work, but I dont have any doubts.

Best way to compare is 4000$ shipped for a BTS and 1000$ for a PI converter vs Less than half that for a 12" Cameron converter and Gerald do do his thing.

I didn't get your PM and I dont have SS wire for a mig gun, I use carbon and paint it. I thaught you baught OBX's? They come with bungs in resonators, too many of them' I had to plug some up on all of our trucks.

[Lurch]

Sorry I don't have SS on my mig either but all is done JDM Wanted my Front o'2 in the collector's not in the resinator's so that's where i moved them LR guys are posting awesome and wishing you were back there, we will kick some lowcountry ass with what I have here and you are doing Aluminum motor, Dad a$$ ands kick ass :yourock:

[DolSVT00]

Sorry I don't have SS on my mig either but all is done JDM Wanted my Front o'2 in the collector's not in the resinator's so that's where i moved them

3/4 of an inch back or behind the collectors doesn't matter one single bit in the tune, nor does it make a difference. What does make a difference is if you have 20 mile long extenders or you have them rolled up and zip tied in a bundle because that = resistance.

[chrisheltra]

LOL just got this PM

Hey Fuc#head I wont ever chase you! I will in fact slap the shit out of you the next time I see you LOL and you can take that to the Bank LOL, You are a Internet Whore who can't back it up so re post this so folks can see what I want to and am going to to do to you as well as outrun you LOL Lurch

[DolSVT00]

LOL just got this PM

WTF?

[chrisheltra]

Dunno I guess hes upset about something I did?

[Lurch]

Well I put this out there because you said you would not post this LOL I guess I won Because you posted it LOL Lurch!!!! Go to Lighting Rodder and read his post I did this on porpous!!! have a Great Night and Weekend I'm not serious just checking LOL! Have a Great one Lurch!!:boohoo:

[chrisheltra]

You confuse the shit out of me dude. What did I say I wouldnt post?

[Lurch]

I wanted to see if what Chris said was True NOT!! I would not do this to anyone as I think freedom of speech is for everyone, I hope all enjoy this as I proved him wrong and hope to see him in the future so I can Laugh at him Everyone have a Great weekend and week Love to all Lurch!!:bigthumb:

[chrisheltra]

I wanted to see if what Chris said was True NOT!! I would not do this to anyone as I think freedom of speech is for everyone, I hope all enjoy this as I proved him wrong and hope to see him in the future so I can Laugh at him Everyone have a Great weekend and week Love to all Lurch!!:bigthumb:

Again what are you talking about?

[spdracr0]

Congrats Matt, gotcha by 1 hundreth, so does that mean I did not regain my title as worlds slowest KB???? You killed my 60ft however!

[LadyInRed]

I think I got lost somewhere on this page...

But anyway, congrats on the new PB :bigthumb:

[Lurch]

I'm glad I Confused you as my father in law is a Police chief If that concers you! We will meet again and shake hands I'm sure you will post this as you are afarid as I am not! I am not going to say anything other than a slap to the face look that up no problem there LOL. That is a warning not a threat But I would just like to shake you hand Please send this to you police family as I will mine Have a GREAT weekend and post this as a Pussy that you are LOL Mitch!!!!!!!:yourock:

[spdracr0]

who let this guy be a mod? wow

[chrisheltra]

Maybe its my sleeping medication, but I can understand a word your trying to say and furthermore I don't understand why all of this is directed at me. I guess I can be the belly button this time.

[Matts94Z28]

Someone been drinking?

[chrisheltra]

Someone been drinking?

Wasnt this guy. Although I do feel a little loopy from the ambien.

[cmd]

I'm glad I Confused you as my father in law is a Police chief If that concers you! We will meet again and shake hands I'm sure you will post this as you are afarid as I am not! I am not going to say anything other than a slap to the face look that up no problem there LOL. That is a warning not a threat But I would just like to shake you hand Please send this to you police family as I will mine Have a GREAT weekend and post this as a Pussy that you are LOL Mitch!!!!!!!:yourock:

4th grade called... they miss you and want you to come back

[Matts94Z28]

Wasnt this guy. Although I do feel a little loopy from the ambien.

I'm sure that is even better!

[LadyInRed]

Thread derailment in 3...2.. oh wait, it already happened.

I still dont get how the eff all this came about lol. It seems so ... random.

[csikx]

Yes Boman and your welcome to come anytime! You should put that thing down the track!

Definitely... Call or shoot me a text next time. I'd like to run my car. Then we can do some beater runs on the way home. :mrgreen:

[chrisheltra]

Im still trying to figure out were this is all coming from. If its because I had to take a few days off out of town to take care of a death in the family then I'm sorry you couldn't understand. If I had know it was that urgent I would have let you come by to get the measurement you wanted even while I was out of town.

[s14.5gonewide]

nice time... randy is doing some amazing work on these l's

[LXtasy]

So you can go 6s on pumpgas in a lightning. I thought I read a few days ago that it couldn't happen. Hmm. Way to go guys.

[CINDERBLOCK]

Congrats Matt, gotcha by 1 hundreth, so does that mean I did not regain my title as worlds slowest KB???? You killed my 60ft however!

LOL congrats to you also... I am pretty sure we both no longer qualify as the worlds slowest KB truck! Yes that 60ft is what got me the 6

congrats on the new PB :bigthumb:
Thanks!
nice time... randy is doing some amazing work on these l'sRandy is by far the best L builder / tuner around.:bigthumb: His hourly rates are a little high but he is worth it!:hysterical:

So you can go 6s on pumpgas in a lightning. I thought I read a few days ago that it couldn't happen. Hmm. Way to go guys.
Thanks

[03SVTCOBRA]

SLOW... That is all

[Matts94Z28]

Matt, Congrat on the new best. That is rolling.

[CINDERBLOCK]

SLOW... That is all
Lol thanks Ryan!
Matt, Congrat on the new best. That is rolling.
Thanks Matt!

[spdracr0]

So now we have a race to 6.50?

[CINDERBLOCK]

So now we have a race to 6.50?
LOL I like it! you beat me to 6.9x's what are the rules? aka Fuel allowed for next challange:cheers

[gearmesh, inc.]

BTW thats a Gerald built tranny and a Cameron converter, the SOB sounds like a power-glide running down the track. Its the only Lightning I have ever heard that you cant even hear the 1-2 shift and the log barely shows it, it happens so fast that everytime he made a pass it sounded like he left it in second because all I heard was the 2-3 at the other end of the track.

Judging by driving the truck a little on the street myself, the converter feels a little loose to me for a positive displacement blown combo. I was seeing about 3500 rpm flash at just 2/3 throttle on my test drive. I didn't want to push it farther than that at the time because I didn't know what the state of engine tune was or which gas it had in it at the time, so I decided to play it safe. I would estimate that WOT stall would be around 4500. IMO, there may be some power wasted by overfeeding the stall vs. putting it to the tires. That is why you don't really notice the 1-2 shift by listening from outside the truck. If you are driving it, you feel a quick bump for the 1-2, but the rpms don't change that much due to the loose converter.

Its just a wild guess, but I would bet the times might pick up a little if the converter was tightened up about 500 to 750 rpm. A little 60ft time might be given up, but it would be made up on the other end and maybe more through some tighter coupling. For a torque monster combo like the Lightnings, I like the flash stall to be right where the engine is starting to approach the leading meat of the torque curve. That way you aren't giving up any power on the back end of the 1/4 mile by the heating up trans fluid in the converter vs. putting the torque to the tires.

Regardless, those are some awesome numbers for pump gas!

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Congrats Matt. Thats strollin!

[DolSVT00]

Judging by driving the truck a little on the street myself, the converter feels a little loose to me for a positive displacement blown combo. I was seeing about 3500 rpm flash at just 2/3 throttle on my test drive. I didn't want to push it farther than that at the time because I didn't know what the state of engine tune was or which gas it had in it at the time, so I decided to play it safe. I would estimate that WOT stall would be around 4500. IMO, there may be some power wasted by overfeeding the stall vs. putting it to the tires. That is why you don't really notice the 1-2 shift by listening from outside the truck. If you are driving it, you feel a quick bump for the 1-2, but the rpms don't change that much due to the loose converter.

Its just a wild guess, but I would bet the times might pick up a little if the converter was tightened up about 500 to 750 rpm. A little 60ft time might be given up, but it would be made up on the other end and maybe more through some tighter coupling. For a torque monster combo like the Lightnings, I like the flash stall to be right where the engine is starting to approach the leading meat of the torque curve. That way you aren't giving up any power on the back end of the 1/4 mile by the heating up trans fluid in the converter vs. putting the torque to the tires.

Regardless, those are some awesome numbers for pump gas!

Ya he told me you thought it was a lil loose but I wasn't too worried because we went different than anyone around here with the cam that is in his truck. we really should be turning that thing to about 6200 its still making power up there with that cam he has.

I can hear hit lock on the big end and if you look at the log its around 3800, we look at the trans temps and everything looks good and its got some of the best ET's for the timing that its running when compaired to any other truck with that kind of timing. It was easier to get a 6 on pump with his truck because the timing is a killer on 93 and he don't need as much to get it to 60'

[gearmesh, inc.]

Ya he told me you thought it was a lil loose but I wasn't too worried because we went different than anyone around here with the cam that is in his truck. we really should be turning that thing to about 6200 its still making power up there with that cam he has.

I can hear hit lock on the big end and if you look at the log its around 3800, we look at the trans temps and everything looks good and its got some of the best ET's for the timing that its running when compaired to any other truck with that kind of timing. It was easier to get a 6 on pump with his truck because the timing is a killer on 93 and he don't need as much to get it to 60'

Is that converter a single disc or a triple disc lockup? Typically, if you lock up a single disc at WOT, it is considered flirting with disaster!

If its a triple, you have the durability to have the best of both worlds. You can have all the stall you can stand for 60ft, and hook it up solid for the back half of the 1/4 mile.

[DolSVT00]

Is that converter a single disc or a triple disc lockup? Typically, if you lock up a single disc at WOT, it is considered flirting with disaster!

If its a triple, you have the durability to have the best of both worlds. You can have all the stall you can stand for 60ft, and hook it up solid for the back half of the 1/4 mile.

Triple.

[Mike]

6's on pump gas, :bigthumb:

That's something I always wanted to do with my truck, and after that figure out how to do it with stock wheels all the way around.

Congrats. Makes me want another Lightning.

[spdracr0]

The logs say my converter will flash around 4k, so there must be something to it? Fuel rules, why yes there are fuel rules, there are always rules. I say C16 or corn juice. I personally do not have the system for the cj myself. But my offer still stands that I have a set of 80s if you would like to try them. The biggest hurdle I have at the moment is not being able to go above 18lbs because of the plug gap. And a plug change in mine is looking like not too much fun. I have a full plate at work for the next couple of weeks,just let me know when you wanna go to the trackand I will see if I am off....good luck....

[spdracr0]

In the 6s on pump gas and still no rep, no love in this place!

[CINDERBLOCK]

The logs say my converter will flash around 4k, so there must be something to it? Fuel rules, why yes there are fuel rules, there are always rules. I say C16 or corn juice. I personally do not have the system for the cj myself. But my offer still stands that I have a set of 80s if you would like to try them. The biggest hurdle I have at the moment is not being able to go above 18lbs because of the plug gap. And a plug change in mine is looking like not too much fun. I have a full plate at work for the next couple of weeks,just let me know when you wanna go to the trackand I will see if I am off....good luck....

ok I accept! Thanks for your offer on the 80's I think my best best is to stick with race fuel! I will be out of the game for a few while saving for tires!

[Mike]

In the 6s on pump gas and still no rep, no love in this place!

:cheers

[Whaler]

Awesome job, guys. That is getting the job done. Like Mike said, makes me want another Lightning and I may have a shot at buying a beautiful red one with only 60k miles. It might be the only remaining stock Lightning in the state.

[spdracr0]

Nope friend of mine has one that still has the plastic on the carpet.

[red99pony]

Awesome job, guys. That is getting the job done. Like Mike said, makes me want another Lightning and I may have a shot at buying a beautiful red one with only 60k miles. It might be the only remaining stock Lightning in the state.

all stock here :bigthumb:

[CINDERBLOCK]

Congrats Matt. Thats strollin!

6's on pump gas, :bigthumb:

That's something I always wanted to do with my truck, and after that figure out how to do it with stock wheels all the way around.

Congrats. Makes me want another Lightning.

Awesome job, guys. That is getting the job done. Like Mike said, makes me want another Lightning and I may have a shot at buying a beautiful red one with only 60k miles. It might be the only remaining stock Lightning in the state.

Thanks guys! All I did was push the skinny pedal and hold on for the ride! The real work was done by Randy who had the tune dead nuts on and Gerald who built the trans. This was the first time I actually got to run the truck all out, and I am very happy with the results:bigthumb:

Now I cant stop thinking about whats possible with race fuel

[spdracr0]

This was the first time I actually got to run the truck all out, and I am very happy with the results

I dont think you have seen all out from that thing yet. I am glad I looked at your logs. Makes me think I may need to be looking into a Different MAF before too long....

[CINDERBLOCK]

I dont think you have seen all out from that thing yet. I am glad I looked at your logs. Makes me think I may need to be looking into a Different MAF before too long....

Yes it was VERY close to being maxed out. Some guy told (I forget his name):hysterical: me we just need to change the housing and put that same MAF into a bigger tube and the problem is solved.

[DolSVT00]

Yes it was VERY close to being maxed out. Some guy told (I forget his name):hysterical: me we just need to change the housing and put that same MAF into a bigger tube and the problem is solved.

That be me

[03SVTCOBRA]

Just get a SCT BA3000 and be done with it.

[CINDERBLOCK]

Just get a SCT BA3000 and be done with it.

No need unless I go turbo... in other word too big for this turd

[CINDERBLOCK]

That be me

lol

[03SVTCOBRA]

2800 then, thats what i use and supposably good for quite a bit of hp. I picked mine up used for $100, not too hard to find them.

[Ct.TOPGUN]

I think you are all nuts for pushing that hard on pump gas. But congratulations!

Jim

[1997b4c]

I'm glad I Confused you as my father in law is a Police chief If that concers you! We will meet again and shake hands I'm sure you will post this as you are afarid as I am not! I am not going to say anything other than a slap to the face look that up no problem there LOL. That is a warning not a threat But I would just like to shake you hand Please send this to you police family as I will mine Have a GREAT weekend and post this as a Pussy that you are LOL Mitch!!!!!!!:yourock:

DAMN............
http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt100/1997b4c/retarded-boy.gif

[DolSVT00]

I think you are all nuts for pushing that hard on pump gas. But congratulations!

Jim

There on just normal street tunes its not like were pushing them too hard we drive them to and from the track on those same tunes. Matts is 8 degrees with an 11.0 afr ive just dialed it in specificly at the track. Its not balls out by any means.

Both his and chris's motors are well over a year old with 15000+ miles on them and at least 100 or so passes on them.

[gearmesh, inc.]

Triple.

I definitely feel better now that I know a triple disc is in there!

I know when I drove it and felt lockup at even 1/2 to 2/3 throttle, it hit like another gear and I could hear the accessory belt chirp from the rate of rpm change!

[DolSVT00]

I definitely feel better now that I know a triple disc is in there!

I know when I drove it and felt lockup at even 1/2 to 2/3 throttle, it hit like another gear and I could hear the accessory belt chirp from the rate of rpm change!

I dont have it going full lock but its close.

[CINDERBLOCK]

There on just normal street tunes its not like were pushing them too hard we drive them to and from the track on those same tunes. Matts is 8 degrees with an 11.0 afr ive just dialed it in specificly at the track. Its not balls out by any means.

Both his and chris's motors are well over a year old with 15000+ miles on them and at least 100 or so passes on them.

hey dont be tring to age my motor! its only got 11k:poke:

[CINDERBLOCK]

I definitely feel better now that I know a triple disc is in there!

I know when I drove it and felt lockup at even 1/2 to 2/3 throttle, it hit like another gear and I could hear the accessory belt chirp from the rate of rpm change!

I dont have it going full lock but its close.

My accessory belt hates you both!

[spdracr0]

Bigger tube will work, but I found when rescaling mine I did not have nearly as much headroom as I thought I would have..

[spdracr0]

oh andI meant the combo in general,a lot more ET left

[DolSVT00]

Bigger tube will work, but I found when rescaling mine I did not have nearly as much headroom as I thought I would have..

Depends on the size of the tube and the clock of the maf, you can make a stock 90mm maf have more headroom than a BA 3000, but you loose resolution down low if you get stupid with the tube size.

[ForceFed4g63]

Well I put this out there because you said you would not post this LOL I guess I won Because you posted it LOL Lurch!!!! Go to Lighting Rodder and read his post I did this on porpous!!! have a Great Night and Weekend I'm not serious just checking LOL! Have a Great one Lurch!!:boohoo:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Daan_Close_Up.PNG/220px-Daan_Close_Up.PNG

[spdracr0]

Kinda been wondering about how the clocking would affect things?

[DolSVT00]

Kinda been wondering about how the clocking would affect things?

There's low and high pressures in any intake, I've seen some flip it to the bottom but if you have a larger tube that moves the element out of the center of air flow or off to one side it does make a difference and can be a PITA to get right.

[ElecTech]

There's low and high pressures in any intake, I've seen some flip it to the bottom but if you have a larger tube that moves the element out of the center of air flow or off to one side it does make a difference and can be a PITA to get right.

Lies. :poke:

Nice Job guys. Certainly getting it done.