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LDELEE
12-17-2011, 04:01 PM
All new Heads-Up Small Block Ford class will debut in March of 2012. Rules are as follows; Must have a small block motor, must be a Ford make of car, any engine combination, No tire bigger than a 28, any type suspension, Single stage of nitrous. As of right now these are the basic rules. If they need to be tweaked a little we will base it on the majority of feedback we get. Heads-Up, pairing by drawing names out of a hat, no qualifying, all run. NO ENTRY FEE! We are trying to establish a class for some of the cars that are not as fast as some of the guys that compete in the all Ford shootout. We anticpate the all Ford Shootout will have faster cars enter next year as we increase the purse payout. Any feedback on this new class and it's rules will be greatly appreciated! Hope this will accommodate many of you.

Chillerman
12-17-2011, 06:24 PM
Sounds good! We will give it a try next year.

Smith Bros. Racing
12-17-2011, 06:34 PM
Will the tree be a pro tree or a regular tree? Will the cars have to use footbrake or can they you use transbrake?

LDELEE
12-17-2011, 07:24 PM
Pro-Tree, trans brake or footbrake (both or allowed).

WWhittle
12-17-2011, 09:38 PM
Hell yeah.

BAD BOB
12-17-2011, 10:09 PM
im sure i wont have a chance against WES 100k car but you said single stage nitrous, will turbos be able to run also?

WWhittle
12-17-2011, 10:16 PM
im sure i wont have a chance against WES 100k car but you said single stage nitrous, will turbos be able to run also?

Hell if that's what you think it's worth you can have it for half price! When you picking it up?

BAD BOB
12-17-2011, 10:24 PM
nah too many projects right now. maybe next year!

LDELEE
12-17-2011, 10:48 PM
Yes, turbo's are allowed. Hopefully, the small block, single stage nitrous rule will be the limiting factor that will give the small guys a chance to race, have fun and win. Eventhough, a BIGG small block won the last shootout.

WTFWSAT
12-17-2011, 10:56 PM
hmm...i may need to drop the radials and get some slicks so i can be more competitive next year.

spdracr0
12-18-2011, 12:02 AM
ummmm...those are still 4 sec rules...

WWhittle
12-18-2011, 01:03 AM
:bigthumb:ummmm...those are still 4 sec rules...

Yep!

Harry
12-18-2011, 10:51 AM
im sure i wont have a chance against WES 100k car but you said single stage nitrous, will turbos be able to run also?

nah too many projects right now. maybe next year!

You getting rid of the LS and coming back to the Dark side. Small Block Ford Class.

1998ta__1991rs
12-18-2011, 10:56 AM
You getting rid of the LS and coming back to the Dark side. Small Block Ford Class.

rules said it has to be a small block in a ford, doesn't have to be a small block ford

Harry
12-18-2011, 11:07 AM
All new Heads-Up Small Block Ford class will debut in March of 2012. Rules are as follows; Must have a small block motor, must be a Ford make of car, any engine combination, No tire bigger than a 28, any type suspension, Single stage of nitrous. As of right now these are the basic rules. If they need to be tweaked a little we will base it on the majority of feedback we get. Heads-Up, pairing by drawing names out of a hat, no qualifying, all run. NO ENTRY FEE! We are trying to establish a class for some of the cars that are not as fast as some of the guys that compete in the all Ford shootout. We anticpate the all Ford Shootout will have faster cars enter next year as we increase the purse payout. Any feedback on this new class and it's rules will be greatly appreciated! Hope this will accommodate many of you.

Also says

LXtasy
12-18-2011, 11:13 AM
but it does say any engine combination and just a small block motor. and Any ford make of car. So in theory bad bobs car will fit.

Harry
12-18-2011, 11:21 AM
I give. Lenny, Please Clarify. Your description isn't clear enough.

WTFWSAT
12-18-2011, 11:49 AM
I read it as any chevy/ford/mopar/lexus small block config as long as its a Ford vehicle.

yota
12-18-2011, 12:01 PM
yeah, i dont see what is so confusing. any ford bodied vehicle, with any small block engine (regardless of make), any suspension, and max of one stage of nitrous... throw a 418 lsx with twin 67's with a glide in a fox body and go chop heads :bigthumb:

NesbittRacing1
12-18-2011, 12:20 PM
im liking the way this class sounds! ill be there

WWhittle
12-18-2011, 12:30 PM
This class is not going to accomplish what you are trying to accomplish. By your rules, Chris Tuten can run the class. The single stage rule is only goin to hurt the slower guys anyway. I have never made a full pass at Dorchester on more than one system- I would only run one anyway and so are the other fast nitrous cars. Just some food for thought.

If you want a slower class, do a radial class, 275 max size- the tire will be very limiting at Dorchester.

spdracr0
12-18-2011, 12:30 PM
I figured Wes would like that with his 50k race car....(just seeing if he will offer me a 1/2 off hehe).....Looks like it could be good though, but Tuten still qualifies and as fast as the red rocket is, I do no think it will run with the green goblin or scarface.....I do not have any good answers, I think a way to make it interesting would be to bring out the scales and every winner gets the purse and 100 lbs...eventually everyone may be close to running...I am by no means complaining, the entry is free, I do like the no qualifying, straight off the trailer,

spdracr0
12-18-2011, 12:38 PM
by those rules a tube car can run too, I think there is a happy medium somewhere, I just do not know where it is....a couple of good racers could sit down and be impartial and nail down a good set of rules..

WTFWSAT
12-18-2011, 12:39 PM
I think del had the only BB car but i could be wrong on that. Either way ill still run its anybodys race.

WWhittle
12-18-2011, 12:40 PM
I figured Wes would like that with his 50k race car....(just seeing if he will offer me a 1/2 off hehe).....Looks like it could be good though, but Tuten still qualifies and as fast as the red rocket is, I do no think it will run with the green goblin or scarface.....I do not have any good answers, I think a way to make it interesting would be to bring out the scales and every winner gets the purse and 100 lbs...eventually everyone may be close to running...I am by no means complaining, the entry is free, I do like the no qualifying, straight off the trailer,

You might be suprised! The last time the red rocket and the green goblin were in this race together, I was the faster car all night and made the fastest pass of anyone. The track and Tuten can confirm that- so you never know! I'm showin up either way!

WWhittle
12-18-2011, 12:42 PM
by those rules a tube car can run too, I think there is a happy medium somewhere, I just do not know where it is....a couple of good racers could sit down and be impartial and nail down a good set of rules..

A 275 max radial would even up pretty much anyone within reason. And open it up to any make of car.

WWhittle
12-18-2011, 12:46 PM
Really, with free entry there shouldn't be any reason for someone NOT to race. It's fun and you might get lucky!

WTFWSAT
12-18-2011, 12:51 PM
A 275 class would be great but I dont think there would be a big enough field for 275's. Myself and badbob are the only 2 i can think of over the last few times ive been out.

spdracr0
12-18-2011, 12:58 PM
You might be suprised! The last time the red rocket and the green goblin were in this race together, I was the faster car all night and made the fastest pass of anyone. The track and Tuten can confirm that- so you never know! I'm showin up either way!

Honestly...I do not doubt that. I give your car all of the respect in the world still doesnt mean I cannot give you hell along the way..and everyone come to race, anything can happen, that is why we race...

WWhittle
12-18-2011, 01:21 PM
Honestly...I do not doubt that. I give your car all of the respect in the world still doesnt mean I cannot give you hell along the way..and everyone come to race, anything can happen, that is why we race...

I agree- free entry, close to the house, I'm coming to have fun. If I win, great- if I get my ass kicked that's ok too.

spdracr0
12-18-2011, 01:33 PM
I agree- free entry, close to the house, I'm coming to have fun. If I win, great- if I get my ass kicked that's ok too.

Absolutely, I think we get spoiled very quickly in this area. We all live so close to somewhere to race...

Chillerman
12-18-2011, 09:28 PM
If you make it a 275 class, were out. Not going to buy 275's just to run this race. My drag radials are 295's. I usually run a 28.0 10.5 slick @ dorchester anyways. You could still use a 10.5W if you want. Not whining, just my 2 cents worth.

KRYPTONITE
12-19-2011, 09:15 AM
Yall lucky They wont let me Enter the CUDA... I would Bye Run All of yall :poke::hide:

KRYPTONITE
12-19-2011, 09:17 AM
Wes You might have just cut your legs off for yourself.... 275.. really can your car work on 275's

Darryl Buckner
12-19-2011, 03:31 PM
Wes You might have just cut your legs off for yourself.... 275.. really can your car work on 275's

With a digital 7 box and a notebook, Chris could get down Dorchester pretty fast on 275 radials.

Blue Skunk
12-19-2011, 03:36 PM
A 275 max radial would even up pretty much anyone within reason. And open it up to any make of car.

X2. :bigthumb:

KRYPTONITE
12-19-2011, 03:58 PM
With a digital 7 box and a notebook, Chris could get down Dorchester pretty fast on 275 radials.

never said he couldnt, might be harder with a Nitrous car,

minytrker
12-19-2011, 05:20 PM
never said he couldnt, might be harder with a Nitrous car,

I doubt it, we usually have 1.2x-1.2x on 275's with our nitrous cars, know a few other nitrous small blocks in the .1x-.1x range on 275's.

outlawts
12-19-2011, 07:40 PM
if you go 275 the turbo car has the advantage

WWhittle
12-19-2011, 08:25 PM
Wes You might have just cut your legs off for yourself.... 275.. really can your car work on 275's

Why wouldn't it?

WWhittle
12-19-2011, 08:28 PM
I doubt it, we usually have 1.2x-1.2x on 275's with our nitrous cars, know a few other nitrous small blocks in the .1x-.1x range on 275's.

I will go 1.12-1.13 on a 275 this year. Write that down and remember i said that.

WWhittle
12-19-2011, 09:35 PM
They just need to stick to one class. Do free entry and noone has an excuse not to enter. Yeah Chris Tuten might come and whoop ass but it doesn't ITS FREE ENTRY!

WTFWSAT
12-19-2011, 09:38 PM
Im cool with whatever. Maybe Santa will bring me some 28 10.5's!

98nbmz
12-20-2011, 11:44 AM
Im cool with whatever. Maybe Santa will bring me some 28 10.5's!

And a glide!!

Darryl Buckner
12-20-2011, 11:50 AM
Im cool with whatever. Maybe Santa will bring me some 28 10.5's!

And some wheelie bars..:bigthumb:

Chillerman
12-20-2011, 02:46 PM
They just need to stick to one class. Do free entry and noone has an excuse not to enter. Yeah Chris Tuten might come and whoop ass but it doesn't ITS FREE ENTRY!

Now that's what I'm talking about. I don't care who's small block ford car gets to run. Let's put them in the lights and see what happens. Wes I may draw your name to race, if I get my backside handed to me, then oh well. I say either run with the big dogs or stay on the porch. :bigthumb:

RobertHolton1
12-20-2011, 05:35 PM
anything goes on a 10.5 or smaller.

LDELEE
12-20-2011, 08:23 PM
Ok, guys. Sounds like we should continue with the all Ford Shootouts. And start a 2nd Small block class only (to be ran on a seperate day ofcourse) . Any make of car (Ford,Chevy, etc), any engine combo, any size tire. Run Whatcha Brung. FREE ENTRY. $1,000 to win. $400 r-up, based on 12 cars. As usual, everybody will get something for entering.

RobertHolton1
12-20-2011, 08:53 PM
Delee no matter what class you have, i will try my best to compete and show support. It doesnt matter to me what yall come up with to me...

minytrker
12-21-2011, 01:01 AM
I will go 1.12-1.13 on a 275 this year. Write that down and remember i said that.

Damn....makes me not feel good about my 1.21 on 275's...I thought I was doing good. I think Smith usually has a .16 or .17 I and he is the man in the LS nitrous world. I know what he runs with that 60, you must has some crazy secrete squirrel shit going on to get .12 or .13. Are you staying nitrous?

minytrker
12-21-2011, 01:11 AM
Ok, guys. Sounds like we should continue with the all Ford Shootouts. And start a 2nd Small block class only (to be ran on a seperate day ofcourse) . Any make of car (Ford,Chevy, etc), any engine combo, any size tire. Run Whatcha Brung. FREE ENTRY. $1,000 to win. $400 r-up, based on 12 cars. As usual, everybody will get something for entering.

Thats badass! I miss the tracks in SC, it was nice having so many tracks within an hour. Now here in TX I have to drive atleast 100 miles on way for any track and none have any kind of free races.
People shouldn't take for granted how lucky they are to have tracks like Dorchester and Bowman just right down the road.
Tell Mike hi for me, Lorenz.

WWhittle
12-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Damn....makes me not feel good about my 1.21 on 275's...I thought I was doing good. I think Smith usually has a .16 or .17 I and he is the man in the LS nitrous world. I know what he runs with that 60, you must has some crazy secrete squirrel shit going on to get .12 or .13. Are you staying nitrous?

Yes, staying nitrous. Smith did that 100-150 lbs heavier than he can be this year, so he will improve too. Some of the convertor technology is going to allow alot of people to improve greatly all the way down the track. (Already has for several)

I went 1.18 with the turbo car at 3250 lbs. My red car has been 1.14 at 2960 and I am now lighter and have made a bunch of changes. I know how fast some of these guys have been able to 60' on 28's lately and I don't see any reason why a Hoosier 275 can't do the same thing. I wouldn't be shocked to see someone 1.10-1.11 this year on a 275.

outlawts
12-21-2011, 01:05 PM
I THINK YALL SHOULD JUST LET ME WIN

Stevie W
12-21-2011, 06:02 PM
We will support this race if you do it under any rules you decide to go with, and when we won the last one with the boogieman it was on 1 kit and cut way back from what we was goin in darlington the week before on 1 kit

Chillerman
12-21-2011, 06:36 PM
[Some of the convertor technology is going to allow alot of people to improve greatly all the way down the track. (Already has for several)


Wes, Can you explain in a little more detail about the converter technology your talking about?

WWhittle
12-21-2011, 08:12 PM
[Some of the convertor technology is going to allow alot of people to improve greatly all the way down the track. (Already has for several)


Wes, Can you explain in a little more detail about the converter technology your talking about?

Torque Convertor Services- Mr Cameron- (803) 754-8139

Stevie- tell em what this new convertor we have did for the Boogieman car (may it RIP). 2-3 numbers in the 60' and 4 mph?

Kenny Mcdonald
12-21-2011, 09:07 PM
We will support this race if you do it under any rules you decide to go with, and when we won the last one with the boogieman it was on 1 kit and cut way back from what we was goin in darlington the week before on 1 kit

Sorry to hear about your car. Hope you all are back up and running before to long. Suppose to be coming to Manning next week, maybe I'll see you at breakfast.

Stevie W
12-21-2011, 10:00 PM
Yea like Wes said with this new convertor the bm went 1.11 60fts on true stock suspension. Kenny just lmk what day and if I'm not out of state that day ill meet ya'll for breakfast