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Mike
03-22-2012, 08:28 PM
Suspended from high school for a video made completely away from school, and was posted on Facebook.

Do you think it's right?

The video was inappropriate, but nothing in it was illegal.

Matts94Z28
03-22-2012, 08:30 PM
Negative

bambooi
03-22-2012, 08:30 PM
no

03SVTCOBRA
03-22-2012, 08:33 PM
That sounds stupid. If it wasnt made on the property or shown during school hours, i dont see how the high school should even be envolved at all. Facebook gets alot of people in trouble, for a job i could understand it, but a high school should have 0 say so unless it actually happened on campus.

snakeplissken
03-22-2012, 08:51 PM
Right? No.

But neither is having to take off your shoes at the airport.

You can't fight either one these days.

schardbody
03-22-2012, 09:12 PM
this is just wrong, but it goes with what America is coming to in my opinion.

facebook is a government conspiracy just to keep tabs on everyone aswell!

anybody worth having on a "friends list" doesnt need a computer to know whats going on in my life.

anyhow, if this suspension could potentially cause problems later in life (college approval etc) then i would fight it without a doubt, otherwise let it go and tell whomever to enjoy the day off and change their privacy settings on facebook or delete their account.

Mike
03-22-2012, 09:14 PM
Right? No.

But neither is having to take off your shoes at the airport.

You can't fight either one these days.


What if the video was of the students in a prayer that the principal thought was inappropriate?

I can understand a private school doing it, but not a public school.

LadyInRed
03-22-2012, 09:30 PM
No.

gearmesh, inc.
03-22-2012, 09:35 PM
anybody worth having on a "friends list" doesnt need a computer to know whats going on in my life.


I'll give you a big THANK YOU on that one! I am not on any social network site at all and don't care to be. I am known for who I am and what I do and I don't need to have a separate persona behind a keyboard to air out dirty laundry.

Besides, when it comes to anything Facebook, Twitter, or Google, I don't trust any of them because it would be too easy for the heavy hand of government to bully them into releasing information.

schardbody
03-22-2012, 09:49 PM
I'll give you a big THANK YOU on that one! I am not on any social network site at all and don't care to be. I am known for who I am and what I do and I don't need to have a separate persona behind a keyboard to air out dirty laundry.

Besides, when it comes to anything Facebook, Twitter, or Google, I don't trust any of them because it would be too easy for the heavy hand of government to bully them into releasing information.

exactly what i'm sayin. repped.

snakeplissken
03-22-2012, 09:59 PM
What if the video was of the students in a prayer that the principal thought was inappropriate?

I can understand a private school doing it, but not a public school.

That could be a gamechanger but it's hard to tell without more info. Call me.

1BAD4DR
03-22-2012, 10:00 PM
No

Mike
03-22-2012, 10:23 PM
That could be a gamechanger but it's hard to tell without more info.

Sorry, The prayer thing was a hypothetical. I was just trying to come up with a situation where the school wouldn't legally be able to do it.

gearmesh, inc.
03-22-2012, 11:10 PM
What if the video was of the students in a prayer that the principal thought was inappropriate?

I can understand a private school doing it, but not a public school.

I bet you if they did it on a prayer rug with a towel on their heads facing Mecca it would be perfectly fine to do it right in the middle of class. :barf:

Mike
03-22-2012, 11:14 PM
How about from this angle?

Cyberbullying may rise to the level of a misdemeanor cyberharassment charge, or if the child is young enough may result in the charge of juvenile delinquency. Most of the time the cyberbullying does not go that far, although parents often try and pursue criminal charges. It typically can result in a child losing their ISP or IM accounts as a terms of service violation. And in some cases, if hacking or password and identity theft is involved, can be a serious criminal matter under state and federal law.

When schools try and get involved by disciplining the student for cyberbullying actions that took place off-campus and outside of school hours, they are often sued for exceeding their authority and violating the student's free speech right. They also, often lose. Schools can be very effective brokers in working with the parents to stop and remedy cyberbullying situations. They can also educate the students on cyberethics and the law. If schools are creative, they can sometimes avoid the claim that their actions exceeded their legal authority for off-campus cyberbullying actions. We recommend that a provision is added to the school's acceptable use policy reserving the right to discipline the student for actions taken off-campus if they are intended to have an effect on a student or they adversely affect the safety and well-being of student while in school. This makes it a contractual, not a constitutional, issue.

schardbody
03-22-2012, 11:30 PM
i actually feel its disrespectful to the parents for the school to discipline the child for ANYTHING not relating to school property during hours.its the parents right to discipline their children how they feel.

the school administration should be putting as much effort into keeping kids in school as they are at keeping them home.

csikx
03-22-2012, 11:48 PM
If you get arrested outside of school, the juvenile booking process requires us to notify the school. Depending on the incident, you can be expelled. Fair?

DolSVT00
03-22-2012, 11:53 PM
Actually and I know this may sound off, I wish the schools would whip the shit out of my kids during school or after school, I wish my neighbor's would whip them too, if their breathing they need a whipping don't suspend them, just whip them every 5 minutes for 3 days if you can't find anything to whip them for then whip them for the future things that they may do just incase.

Its a PITA and gets into my beer time when I have to do it.

As a matter of fact, I wish there was a whipping service, that I could pay a monthly bill for my kids whippings, it would save me a whole lot of time and energy.

That ass aint for nothing else but sitting on and whipping, the spinkter does all the pooping and farting so that shit was put there for a reason.

Furthermore, if they get attention from something they posted on you tube or Facebook, I blame there parents for not being technologically smart enough to ban the mac address of anything they own from getting on the internet and not whipping their kids for doing something that draws the schools attention. After all, the parents pay for the internet, not the kids, if you can't control it, its your fault and if you don't know how to use it, don't pay for it.... I didn't die from whippings or not having interwebs or cable TV when I was a kid, mine deserve no special treatment..

Mike
03-23-2012, 12:21 AM
If you get arrested outside of school, the juvenile booking process requires us to notify the school. Depending on the incident, you can be expelled. Fair?

As long as no permanent action is taken before the conviction, I'd say it's fair.

Certain cases might require the parent/guardian to home school in lieu of an expulsion.

Mike
03-23-2012, 12:30 AM
Furthermore, if they get attention from something they posted on you tube or Facebook, I blame there parents for not being technologically smart enough to ban the mac address of anything they own from getting on the internet and not whipping their kids for doing something that draws the schools attention. After all, the parents pay for the internet, not the kids, if you can't control it, its your fault and if you don't know how to use it, don't pay for it.... I didn't die from whippings or not having interwebs or cable TV when I was a kid, mine deserve no special treatment..

I agree, but in this situation the video was made and posted by someone else. Not all of us can ban other peoples IP addresses.

DolSVT00
03-23-2012, 12:32 AM
I agree, but in this situation the video was made and posted by someone else. Not all of us can ban other peoples IP addresses.

Then its the other kids fault too and their parents, they should all be whooped.

Mike
03-23-2012, 12:36 AM
Then its the other kids fault too and their parents, they should all be whooped.

Thankfully my son was "whooped" enough not to get caught up in any of this shit, I was just making conversation of the situation at his school.

DolSVT00
03-23-2012, 12:41 AM
Thankfully my son was "whooped" enough not to get caught up in any of this shit, I was just making conversation of the situation at his school.

Ha, the whooping worked better than banning the mac address, imagine that.... Our ancestors must have got something right when they said "spare the rod, spoil the child"

schardbody
03-23-2012, 09:40 PM
parenting by fear of the belt isnt the way i will raise my daughter or future children, although unfortunately i am on the same page as you in the sense that it is what most kids need.

when i need to physically punish my daughter its pretty serious so i sit her down and have a conversation about why i'm about to wear her ass out and make sure she understands WHY she is going to be punished this way and explain to her how she could have dealt with whatever happened in a better way.

basically i just want to instill MORALS and teach her to do the right things in life without her fearing me. i also understand this method might not work and could really bite me in the long run, but its the choice i made from day one and so far i dont regret it.

on the other hand my parents whipped the shit out of me and my brother when we were young, treated us exactly the same our whole lives and he is the biggest sack of shit i know. drug addict, deadbeat dad, homeless (when not in jail), jobless, no skill or trade, and no respect for anybody or anything. the worse part is we are 13 months apart so we were close, had the same hobbies, all of our friends were mutual friends ect. he and our dad got into a fight one night and he went and stayed with a co-worker at the time and got hooked on hard drugs within a week and has never returned to being a productive citizen. so that goes to show you that not all techniques work on all people, i think some people are just born to fuck up....

and i still say public schools have no business dealing with anything that happens outside of their hours and property.