Crazy piston design

[PapaBear]

Never seen anything like this, thought I would share. This is for blacksnow's NA Honda build. Shooting for 325+ Whp on pump gas at 14.2:1 compression. Pretty crazy looking


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[MonteC]

I love bent valves as much as the next guy, but fuck.

[Silver-Dollar]

No replacement for displacement. I wonder if the combustion chambers on the head has been v-eed out.

[PapaBear]

It's a HIGH dollar build with a sleeved ERL block and 4-piston racing head. I'm sure every angle has been covered on the build.

[LXtasy]

Big money build for 325hp? When should one just put head in a meat grinder

[PapaBear]

325 HP with 4 cylinders is a tad bit different on pump gas and NA....

[BigdaddyDupree]

holy hell a 4 piston racing head.

[PapaBear]

holy hell a 4 piston racing head.

It's a company, lol. Was wondering when that would come....

[1998ta__1991rs]

how the hell is 14.2:1 and pump gas going to work?

[PapaBear]

Don't know man, I know NOTHING about these things. No race gas an no E85 is all I know.

[PapaBear]

Correction.....they are now going with E85.

[LXtasy]

how the hell is 14.2:1 and pump gas going to work?

With more high dollar parts.


As much as that may be cool and all. I am sure they are throwing money at reinventing the wheel right now.

[CoppertopT/A]

New mazda motors come with something like 14.7 comp ratio, something crazy like that

[schardbody]

14:1 on 93 is very doable with the efficiency of the combustion chambers on alot of the honda motors.

those pistons look like basically every other high compression honda piston. i'm guessing 2.8ish liters and 8000+rpm probably tuned by anthony at AV-engineering on AEM and will fall short of his WHP goal on 93, but will be close on corn.

car will be a very respectable street car when done.

[tkklemann]

how the hell is 14.2:1 and pump gas going to work?

The same way that 10.5:1 and 35-38+ psi of boost is about to happen on my Evo. Not too long ago that was unchartered territory for street cars (Evo's). I would run higher a high compression ratio than that if I was to run E85 100% of the time, but I don't want to. Tuning is everything.

[Bradleyrj]

Not uncommon at all. Used a very similar design in the pulling truck engines I used to mess with back home. Gotta have dome to make compression when the heads have huge combustion chambers.

[ForceFed4g63]

Is this local? Somebody mentioned Anthony. 325 NA whp would be sweet, but I'd much rather have a 600whp NA Vette any day of the week :D

[gearmesh, inc.]

Seems I remember pop up pistons started falling out of favor once it was discovered the domes got in the way of flame travel and actually increased the tendency to detonate. Its better to keep the piston flat and make the combustion chamber smaller if you want compression.

[slowgreen99]

I love bent valves as much as the next guy, but fuck.

me too...

And I dont see 38 lbs of boost with any decent amount of compression running good on 93 octane. Yes, I understand tuning is everything, but there are limitations, regardless of how spot on the tune is.

[schardbody]

me too...

And I dont see 38 lbs of boost with any decent amount of compression running good on 93 octane. Yes, I understand tuning is everything, but there are limitations, regardless of how spot on the tune is.

i agree, i would imagine cylinder pressure with 38psi and pump gas = BOOM

[slowgreen99]

Id also say that if that happens, I want to see it! I think thatd be pretty cool

[PapaBear]

14:1 on 93 is very doable with the efficiency of the combustion chambers on alot of the honda motors.

those pistons look like basically every other high compression honda piston. i'm guessing 2.8ish liters and 8000+rpm probably tuned by anthony at AV-engineering on AEM and will fall short of his WHP goal on 93, but will be close on corn.

car will be a very respectable street car when done.

The car is being built in Florida. Same block same head different compression made 290 on 93 octane. New cams and new compression ratio and E85.....I think he will surpass his goal.

Is this local? Somebody mentioned Anthony. 325 NA whp would be sweet, but I'd much rather have a 600whp NA Vette any day of the week :D

The owner and the car are local. Build is happening in Kissimmee Florida for the second time. He was shooting for 300 with lower compression and hit 290, he wasn't satisfied so here he goes again.

It's the silver Honda that had the red wheels on it that we had a thread on a while ago. Guy's name is BlackSnow on the forum.

[PapaBear]

Got this off his facebook page. I'll tell him to log in and see this thread......

Engine/Performance
ERL Sleeved K24 Block
Wiseco 89mm 14.2:1 Pistons
K1 Rods
4Piston K20Z3 Head
Ferrea Valves (+1mm intake)
Drag Cartel 4.5 Camshafts
Supertech Valvetrain
Gato Performance Custom Exhaust Turn Down
Skunk2 Throttle Body
Skunk2 Intake Manifold (Extrude Honed)
Skunk2 Oil Cap
Skunk2 Radiator Cap
Skunk2 Valve Cover Washers
Toda Timing Chain
Toda Balancer Chain
Toda Tensioner
Hytech Cam Tower Mod
Hytech Type S Oil Pump
Hytech Oil Pan Baffle
ASP Header
Go Power Motorsports Custom CAI
ATI Harmonic Balancer
Driveshaft Shop 2.9 Axles
Injector Dynamics 1000cc Injectors
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
K-Tuned Fuel Rail w/ Center Mount Gauge
K-Tuned Fuel Pressure Regulator
K-Tuned Fuel Lines & Fittings
K-Tuned Upper Coolant Housing
K-Tuned Idle Air Assist Delete
Hybrid Racing Shifter Cables
Hybrid Racing Radiator Hoses
Hybrid Racing EM1 CMC
Mishimito Radiator
Mishimito Aluminum Fan Shroud
Wireworx Custom Harness
Wireworx ABS Delete
Password JDM Carbon/Kevlar Cooling Plate
Password JDM Carbon/Kevlar Spark Plug Cover
JDM Dipstick
Black Washer Fluid Cap
Black Powdercoated Valve Cover/Intake Manifold/Intake Tube/Catch Can
Jotech Performance Custom Breather/Catch Can
MFactory Race Transmission
ACT ProLite Flywheel
Clutch Masters FX400
Hasport Motor Mounts
Hondata FlashPRO (Tuned By: Colombia, CMB-Tuning)

Exterior
OEM FD2 Hood
OEM FD2 Front Fenders
OEM FD2 Front Bumper
OEM FD2 Front Grill
OEM FD2 Headlights
OEM FD2 Sidemarkers
Megans Racing Carbon Fiber Roof Spoiler
Mugen Type R Front Lip (authentic)
Password JDM Rear Tow Hook
5% Window Tint (55% windshield)
JDM Emblems (front & rear)
4300k Philips HID
PIAA 5k Side Marker Bulbs
PIAA 5k Turn Signal Bulbs
PIAA Xtreme White High Beam Bulbs
Black Painted Front Grill
Black Painted Roof
Debadged Trunk Emblems

Interior
JDM Steering Emblem
JDM Shift Boot
Skunk2 Shift Knob
Hyper White LED Interior Lights
Innovate Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge
AEM Oil Pressure Gauge

Suspension/Wheels/Brakes
Work Meister M1R 18X9 +25
Work Valve Stems (black)
Work Lug Nuts (red)
Racing Brake 2 Piece Open Slot Rotors (front)
TPM Slotted Rotors (rear)
Racing Brake ET500 Pads (front/rear)
Brembo Calipers (front)
Full-Race Traction Balls
Skunk2 Pro-C Coilovers
Skunk2 Rear Camber Arms
Beaks Lower Arm Bar
ARP Extended Wheel Studs

ICE
OEM Nav
JL Audio 250/1v2
JL Audio 300/4v2
JL Audio 8W3v3
Polk Audio MM6501
Polk Audio MM521
Passport 8500 Radar Detector

[slowgreen99]

why not a 40 shot of gas? lol

[chrisheltra]

Got this off his facebook page. I'll tell him to log in and see this thread......

Engine/Performance
ERL Sleeved K24 Block
Wiseco 89mm 14.2:1 Pistons
K1 Rods
4Piston K20Z3 Head
Ferrea Valves (+1mm intake)
Drag Cartel 4.5 Camshafts
Supertech Valvetrain
Gato Performance Custom Exhaust Turn Down
Skunk2 Throttle Body
Skunk2 Intake Manifold (Extrude Honed)
Skunk2 Oil Cap
Skunk2 Radiator Cap
Skunk2 Valve Cover Washers
Toda Timing Chain
Toda Balancer Chain
Toda Tensioner
Hytech Cam Tower Mod
Hytech Type S Oil Pump
Hytech Oil Pan Baffle
ASP Header
Go Power Motorsports Custom CAI
ATI Harmonic Balancer
Driveshaft Shop 2.9 Axles
Injector Dynamics 1000cc Injectors
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
K-Tuned Fuel Rail w/ Center Mount Gauge
K-Tuned Fuel Pressure Regulator
K-Tuned Fuel Lines & Fittings
K-Tuned Upper Coolant Housing
K-Tuned Idle Air Assist Delete
Hybrid Racing Shifter Cables
Hybrid Racing Radiator Hoses
Hybrid Racing EM1 CMC
Mishimito Radiator
Mishimito Aluminum Fan Shroud
Wireworx Custom Harness
Wireworx ABS Delete
Password JDM Carbon/Kevlar Cooling Plate
Password JDM Carbon/Kevlar Spark Plug Cover
JDM Dipstick
Black Washer Fluid Cap
Black Powdercoated Valve Cover/Intake Manifold/Intake Tube/Catch Can
Jotech Performance Custom Breather/Catch Can
MFactory Race Transmission
ACT ProLite Flywheel
Clutch Masters FX400
Hasport Motor Mounts
Hondata FlashPRO (Tuned By: Colombia, CMB-Tuning)

Exterior
OEM FD2 Hood
OEM FD2 Front Fenders
OEM FD2 Front Bumper
OEM FD2 Front Grill
OEM FD2 Headlights
OEM FD2 Sidemarkers
Megans Racing Carbon Fiber Roof Spoiler
Mugen Type R Front Lip (authentic)
Password JDM Rear Tow Hook
5% Window Tint (55% windshield)
JDM Emblems (front & rear)
4300k Philips HID
PIAA 5k Side Marker Bulbs
PIAA 5k Turn Signal Bulbs
PIAA Xtreme White High Beam Bulbs
Black Painted Front Grill
Black Painted Roof
Debadged Trunk Emblems

Interior
JDM Steering Emblem
JDM Shift Boot
Skunk2 Shift Knob
Hyper White LED Interior Lights
Innovate Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge
AEM Oil Pressure Gauge

Suspension/Wheels/Brakes
Work Meister M1R 18X9 +25
Work Valve Stems (black)
Work Lug Nuts (red)
Racing Brake 2 Piece Open Slot Rotors (front)
TPM Slotted Rotors (rear)
Racing Brake ET500 Pads (front/rear)
Brembo Calipers (front)
Full-Race Traction Balls
Skunk2 Pro-C Coilovers
Skunk2 Rear Camber Arms
Beaks Lower Arm Bar
ARP Extended Wheel Studs

ICE
OEM Nav
JL Audio 250/1v2
JL Audio 300/4v2
JL Audio 8W3v3
Polk Audio MM6501
Polk Audio MM521
Passport 8500 Radar Detector

Why would someone put that all over the internet? Its like a shopping list for thieves.

[ForceFed4g63]

The owner and the car are local. Build is happening in Kissimmee Florida for the second time. He was shooting for 300 with lower compression and hit 290, he wasn't satisfied so here he goes again.

It's the silver Honda that had the red wheels on it that we had a thread on a while ago. Guy's name is BlackSnow on the forum.

Ahhh yes, the guy claiming a long list of slayed STI's and Evo's lol. I'll have something for him he can run here shortly...

[chrisheltra]

Ahhh yes, the guy claiming a long list of slayed STI's and Evo's lol. I'll have something for him he can run here shortly...

I think he said hed also take down a certain F150 with a body kit....:hysterical:

[slowgreen99]

I wouldnt fuck with it...it has a black washer fluid cap.

[chrisheltra]

I cant tell in the first pic if thats ceiling tile or floor tile.

[ForceFed4g63]

I cant tell in the first pic if thats ceiling tile or floor tile.

It looks like the old school flooring that McDonald's used to have.

[dkbmxer002]

who is building it in kissimmee?

[1iron]

Skunk2 radiator cap FTW!

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Ahhh yes, the guy claiming a long list of slayed STI's and Evo's lol. I'll have something for him he can run here shortly...

Insert falling bear here.....

[PapaBear]

who is building it in kissimmee?

Jotech performance. Owners of the fastest NA 8th gen civic coupe and sedan.

Car is scheduled for a Honda Tuning magazine shoot when completed.

[chrisheltra]

Funny nostalgic thread.

http://www.carolinahorsepower.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7834

[PapaBear]

Funny nostalgic thread.

http://www.carolinahorsepower.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7834

Lol yup

[ForceFed4g63]

Funny nostalgic thread.

http://www.carolinahorsepower.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7834

Did you ever end up running him in anything Chris?

[chrisheltra]

Did you ever end up running him in anything Chris?

Nope never heard from him.

[ForceFed4g63]

Insert falling bear here.....

:gramps2: