Did some work!

[TurboWS6]

So I finished tearing down the top half today, Turns out I was right damn water jacket opened up on number 7 just like I though will get some pics up soon nothing spectacular though. Should be picking up my 317s from mikes machine out of orangeburg on Monday curtis spec'd the heads to the cam that I already have and is installing some prc double springs.

Got a bunch of goodies for it too along the way.

Switching to LS7 lifters
Ported 317s from 241's' new comp ratio 9:1= more timing and boost
adding a 90mm throttle body
Adding strange double adjustable coil overs with hypercoils all the way around.
8 point mild steel cage
Dont worry the interior's going back in, and the AC will still blow cold, because its a street car:bigthumb:

She will be up and running by next weekend, and off to have the cage installed.

[chrisheltra]

Whos installing the cage?

[TurboWS6]

Whos installing the cage?

cliff-1972

[chrisheltra]

Are you supplying the piping or does he?

[ForceFed4g63]

I see the wheels turning lol.

[chrisheltra]

I see the wheels turning lol.

Not what you think. A cage will never go in my truck. I drive it way too much on the street to make it that dangerous in the event of an accident.

[Kenny Mcdonald]

cliff-1972

Who is Cliff-1972?

[ForceFed4g63]

Local guy on the forum here who can do cages and custom exhaust stuff. Seen some of his work and its really good.

[Kenny Mcdonald]

Local guy on the forum here who can do cages and custom exhaust stuff. Seen some of his work and its really good.

Do you know his last name . Does he have a shop and do you have a telephone number.

[BigdaddyDupree]

Not what you think. A cage will never go in my truck. I drive it way too much on the street to make it that dangerous in the event of an accident.

How would a cage make it more dangerous in the event of a accident? Enlighten me

[BAD BOB]

ever try and hit your head on a roll bar? they are normally not there on most street veh.

[Matts94Z28]

How would a cage make it more dangerous in the event of a accident? Enlighten me

Face to bar. No good.

[2001hawk]

Back of the head to hoop cuz a car dealer rear ends you leaves you head ringing. Ask me how I know. LOL. But I prefer to have my little six point. It doesn't really hamper me in any way.

[chrisheltra]

How would a cage make it more dangerous in the event of a accident? Enlighten me

You have been enlightened.

ever try and hit your head on a roll bar? they are normally not there on most street veh.

Face to bar. No good.

Back of the head to hoop cuz a car dealer rear ends you leaves you head ringing. Ask me how I know. LOL. But I prefer to have my little six point. It doesn't really hamper me in any way.

[ForceFed4g63]

Do you know his last name . Does he have a shop and do you have a telephone number.

I do have his number but I don't know if he would want me to give it out, send him a pm, he'll answer within a day or 2.

cliff-1972

[cliff-1972]

Cliff Thomas.PM me if you have a question:bigthumb:

[TurboWS6]

Are you supplying the piping or does he?

I bought the 8 point from brokedickracing had it shipped to my house was like 265.00 for mild steel. Not sure if Cliff could supply the pipe.

On another note after doing a lot of research into cages www.brokedickracing.com has the best prices on weld ins whether they are mild/dom/or moly hands down, fast shipping, and good customer service too. And the name is funny as hell comes with a vinyl too I just might rock it, should be worth about 100 hp on the back window. They also make some chassis stuff to, K members, sub frame connects, 4 link kits ect.

[TurboWS6]

ever try and hit your head on a roll bar? they are normally not there on most street veh.

Back of the head to hoop cuz a car dealer rear ends you leaves you head ringing. Ask me how I know. LOL. But I prefer to have my little six point. It doesn't really hamper me in any way.

More of a PITA but if you use the harness vice the shoulder belt typically your head shouldn't hit the bar but your legs could hit the front struts in a side impact. I would imagine that wouldn't feel to good but at least you wouldn't get crushed by the door.

[2001hawk]

More of a PITA but if you use the harness vice the shoulder belt typically your head shouldn't hit the bar but your legs could hit the front struts in a side impact. I would imagine that wouldn't feel to good but at least you wouldn't get crushed by the door.

Like I said I got rear ended by a cadillac so that is what caused my head to slam back into the hoop. I agree most people won't get hit that hard. Even with the SFCs and six pt welded in it put the passenger door bar in a serious bind. I caught hell getting it out. Even though it has the swing outs I just slide over the bar. The main thing that helps to have a cage or roll bar in a street car it to make it fit tightly into a place that is out of the way.

[LXtasy]

BDR has some killer pricing. Please let me know on the fitment of that cage. WE have been looking at their cages

[1998ta__1991rs]

I think s&w is still cheaper

[TurboWS6]

BDR has some killer pricing. Please let me know on the fitment of that cage. WE have been looking at their cages

Will do! Ill take pics to after its installed.

[TurboWS6]

Talked with Curtis out of Mikes Machine Shop up in Orangeburg, he just got the PRC double springs in today so he will have my heads ready tomorrow so I went ahead and yanked the heads off the car tonight.

Down to the short block
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/preston99ws6/IMAG0398.jpg

DRP dish pistons
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/preston99ws6/IMAG0399.jpg

One of these is unlike the others!
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/preston99ws6/IMAG0395.jpg

Gay as Aids!
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/preston99ws6/IMAG0396.jpg

All this headache over a damn pin hole tore my knuckle up today breaking torque on the heads smashed it between the ratchet and valve cover seating surface, I learn every day why these things are called F%$&! Body's and people pay to have work done. lol

[TurboWS6]

UPS guy left me a present today, the hypercoils haven't showed up yet though.
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/preston99ws6/IMAG0400.jpg

[bababuschka]

UPS guy left me a present today, the hypercoils haven't showed up yet though.
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/preston99ws6/IMAG0400.jpg

That's pretty...I wanna set now:hail:

[Matts94Z28]

Will do! Ill take pics to after its installed.

That wont be any time soon...

[TurboWS6]

That wont be any time soon...

Do you know something I don't know Matt?

Interior in my car is already gutted in preparation only thing in the car is the driver seat and dash/ door panels for now. The 8 point weld in is sitting in my garage. Really it is just boiling down to when I get the motor back together again and that depends on when the LS9 head gaskets get here. Wont take me more than a day to put the motor back together again. Will only take about 4 hrs to install the coil overs all the way around. Not sure how long Cliff will take but I have test fitted most of the cage and the hoop/ struts all fit in the car well not much needed there either but welding.

[Matts94Z28]

Do you know something I don't know Matt?

Interior in my car is already gutted in preparation only thing in the car is the driver seat and dash/ door panels for now. The 8 point weld in is sitting in my garage. Really it is just boiling down to when I get the motor back together again and that depends on when the LS9 head gaskets get here. Wont take me more than a day to put the motor back together again. Will only take about 4 hrs to install the coil overs all the way around. Not sure how long Cliff will take but I have test fitted most of the cage and the hoop/ struts all fit in the car well not much needed there either but welding.

I meant to quote Hal.

[TurboWS6]

Had me worried there Matt, I have only met a handful of you guys on this board.

[cliff-1972]

I installed a 8 point roll bar from Jegs in my brothers 69 Nova good price and fit.S&W are good kits also.

[TurboWS6]

Picked up the heads from Mikes machine, to my surprise Curtis picked up a set of Lunati Gold Duals instead of PRC Doubles. There actually a better spring so I am happy. UPS guy also left me more presents. LS9 Head gaskets that were supposed to be here yesterday still haven't showed up yet.

Went ahead and cleaned up the block so it will be ready, and installed the LS7 lifters and cups today.

317 Heads
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/preston99ws6/IMAG0403-1.jpg

Comp Engineering 3 way adj rear drag shock
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/preston99ws6/IMAG0402.jpg

Hypercoil front springs.
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/preston99ws6/IMAG0401.jpg

[BigdaddyDupree]

What did you pay for your ls9 head gaskets?

[Matts94Z28]

I run the summit version of those 3-ways and like them a lot. I set them at 50/50 and have been good to go.

[Qwik_Sn95]

All these nice parts and I dont see no stuff involving a auto?

[schardbody]

what is your current suspension setup?

[TurboWS6]

What did you pay for your ls9 head gaskets?

92.79 from GM parts direct shipped to my door.
www.gmpartsdirect.com
Part# 12622033

There like 34.97 apiece plus shipping.

[TurboWS6]

All these nice parts and I dont see no stuff involving a auto?

That's because this car has a built 6speed for now, gonna try the two step route once I figure out its sweet spot then all I got to do is shift.

However I am on the lookout for a LS TH-400 setup. Someone on here said they had a setup so I PM'd and they never responded Curtis out of Mikes Machine in Orangeburg recommends I talk to Kooks. The thought of losing overdrive makes me a little upset.

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/preston99ws6/IMAG0404.jpg

[TurboWS6]

I run the summit version of those 3-ways and like them a lot. I set them at 50/50 and have been good to go.

I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the summit brand are just re-branded comp 3 ways, Jegs had a killer deal on them they were like 34 dollars a piece. That also answers another question that being which setting to use. Thanks

[TurboWS6]

what is your current suspension setup?

Front will be all stock with swaybar end links pulled out, with the exception of the Strange double adjustables paired with 325# hypercoils, Talked with the guys at BMR and they recommended that spring rate.

Rear:
Strange S60, 35 spline axles, true trac, 3.40s
Strange chromemoly driveshaft
Hotchkis Adjustable LCA's,
UMI weld on LCA Relocation Brackets
Hotchkis Adj Panhard bar
SLP Adj torque arm set @ -3 (pinion angle)
UMI crossmember w/torque arm relocation bracket
Comp 3 Way adjustable shocks
Stock WS6 rear springs
Stock WS6 sway bar

Pic without the 3 ways installed and sway bar.

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/preston99ws6/IMAG0368.jpg

[TurboWS6]

Head Gaskets showed up time to do some work! Never seen a set of head gaskets that have looked any thing like these before, hope they perform as well as everyone says.

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj585/preston99ws6/IMAG0405.jpg

[TurboWS6]

Long block assembled I am done for tonight.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Long block assembled I am done for tonight.

:bigthumb:

[schardbody]

look like standard multi layer steel gaskets, not sure what might be different about them, but i've also heard they are the way to go if staying OEM.

[TurboWS6]

look like standard multi layer steel gaskets, not sure what might be different about them, but i've also heard they are the way to go if staying OEM.

I have never come across any multi layer gasket before, not saying they dont exist, just all the gaskets I have put on in the past were one single thick layer.

[bwelch]

I can't wait to hear a turbo car with a lingenfelter 2 step

[nordic97mist]

shoulda just got a honda #smh #imports4lyfe

[ForceFed4g63]

shoulda just got a honda #smh #imports4lyfe

How's yours doing?

[1998ta__1991rs]

How's yours doing?

i think he sold it bc his boss was gay or something like that

[1998ta__1991rs]

I have never come across any multi layer gasket before, not saying they dont exist, just all the gaskets I have put on in the past were one single thick layer.

ls9 gaskets, along with most ls head gaskets should be multi layer, they look like it in the picture

[Foose04]

4.8-6.0 2002+ got 3 layer. LS1-2 = 3 layer, ls7= 5, ls9= 7.

I got ls9's on mine, so far so good at low 20's psi.

[1998ta__1991rs]

I can't wait to hear a turbo car with a lingenfelter 2 step

Lol. Bop..........................bop.................. ..bop

[schardbody]

Foose what is the compressed thickness of the ls9 gaskets? Really thin layered MLS head gaskets with a fire ring are perfect for boost so it makes sense that they do well.

[nordic97mist]

How's yours doing?

2 more k and perfect

i think he sold it bc his boss was gay or something like that

because i dont have a job :boohoo:

[ForceFed4g63]

2 more k and perfect



K as in grand? Want to play with a neon when it's done?

[Foose04]

Foose what is the compressed thickness of the ls9 gaskets?

.051

[TurboWS6]

ls9 gaskets, along with most ls head gaskets should be multi layer, they look like it in the picture

I dont doubt that, most of my experience is with the old muscle car era motors, Gen 1 small/Big block Chevy's, Poncho motors, 5.0's, even done some work to some olds rocket motors.

Ya, the LS9"s are definitely 7 layer, The felpro's I just pulled off weren't nothing but a single layer though come to think of it I blew the head gasket about 2 years ago and those were single layer too.

[TurboWS6]

4.8-6.0 2002+ got 3 layer. LS1-2 = 3 layer, ls7= 5, ls9= 7.

I got ls9's on mine, so far so good at low 20's psi.

Now thats what I like to hear.

[TurboWS6]

Cars over at Cliff's shop getting the 8 point roll bar installed, and its having the maf sensor deleted out of the cold pipe since the cars 3 bar SD now. Ill get picks up when its finished before the interior goes back in trying to decide if I should throw some race seats in it instead of the factory heavy ass leather seats. Should offset some of the cages weight.

Pretty sure I found a built TH350 and a stall for it too.