Rear end way off...

[Bradleyrj]

The drivers side is with the wheel bolted directly to the axle.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l289/BradleyRJ/Mustang/THE%20GT/IMG_3713.jpg

(I like where it sits, flush with the outside fender lip.

Passenger side. This is with a spare set of lugnuts placed BETWEEN!~!~!~! the wheel and the axle and it still sits WAY in.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l289/BradleyRJ/Mustang/THE%20GT/IMG_3714.jpg

How can I draw it over to the passenger side some. The car was wrecked prior to me owning it, and I had to put in a Wild Rides S box to repair the upper mounts. We measured many times and thought we had everything square.. obviously something is still off. What can I do? Panhard bar maybe? ?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

What do you have for axles?

[Bradleyrj]

Strange, C-clip elims, Cobra brakes. I know it has something to do with the car being wrecked / s box install not as square as we thought.

[BigdaddyDupree]

You have adjustable control arms?

[blubyu87gt]

Do doughnuts into a curb on the drivers side. Should move it over a bit!

I take it the whole rear end is off? Or do you think it's something with the axles and diff?

I got a 2300-k kit a while ago that had a wrong length axle in it a while back. If you went that route...

[Qwik_Sn95]

Just run a space on the passenger side. I know someone with their spring perches not welded on their 8.8 square and they had the same problem.

[Qwik_Sn95]

Also what upper bushings are in your housing? When I had busted stock bushings my rear wasnt square in the car either.

[Matts94Z28]

Just run a space on the passenger side. I know someone with their spring perches not welded on their 8.8 square and they had the same problem.

http://memecreator.net/futurama-fry/showimage.php/4231/Not-sure-if-serious-or-a-joke.jpg

[Qwik_Sn95]

True story about the spring pearch and spacer. Not on my car but just how he solved the problem.

[Mustangscotty]

If its off by that much, what is causing it? Does the car track well going down the road? Any irregular tread wear? Pull to one side or the other when the brakes are applied or in neutral while coasting at speed?

Are the measurements correct for that make of vehicle? Flange, axle tubes..

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/5-0-mustangs/6621-8-8-rear-end-measurements.html

[Qwik_Sn95]

My guess is differet length axels. Only problem is if thats the caset the brake calipers and mounting brackets would be different or the rotor would eat into the bracket once tightined down. If the rear end wasnt square in the car and being off that much there would be different gaps front to back on each side also.

[Bradleyrj]

You have adjustable control arms?

Yes



I take it the whole rear end is off? Or do you think it's something with the axles and diff?




Yes the whole rear is off. I didnt order a kit. I ordered axles from strange, they are the same and correct length. I'll need to get someone to ride behind me to check how it tracks, havent driven it enough to notice any abnormal tire wear.

[WWhittle]

Something is way off if its a couple inches difference. Move it over with the upper control arms and see what you have.

[gearmesh, inc.]

Your upper arms and upper mount location control the side to side location of the axle housing.

[Darryl Buckner]

Your upper arms and upper mount location control the side to side location of the axle housing.

This is true..:bigthumb:

[Darryl Buckner]

If everything works out to be true as far as tracking and alignment stuff goes, get a pair of endtubes from Chassis Engineering and weld one onto the passenger side and get a longer axle to fit the length. That way it will move the wheel, brake caliper and all out to match the other side. I run their end tubes on all my stuff cause I hate "C" clip eliminators that leak, and they use a backing plate like a 9" rearend to hold the axle in.

[WWhittle]

If everything works out to be true as far as tracking and alignment stuff goes, get a pair of endtubes from Chassis Engineering and weld one onto the passenger side and get a longer axle to fit the length. That way it will move the wheel, brake caliper and all out to match the other side. I run their end tubes on all my stuff cause I hate "C" clip eliminators that leak, and they use a backing plate like a 9" rearend to hold the axle in.

I think if I had to make one end tube longer and one axle longer in my car to make shit work, I'd be tearing it apart to find out what's out of whack!

[Bradleyrj]

I think if I had to make one end tube longer and one axle longer in my car to make shit work, I'd be tearing it apart to find out what's out of whack!

Yeah.. not really interested in that I dont think. When I installed the rear I adjusted the new adjustable arms to the same length as each other, and stock length. I am going to get under the car tomorrow and adjust them to try and bring it over some.

[Darryl Buckner]

I think if I had to make one end tube longer and one axle longer in my car to make shit work, I'd be tearing it apart to find out what's out of whack!

But he knows whats wrong, its been wrecked, and upper boxes pulled out. Alot of people swap in SN95 chassis rear ends into fox bodies for the disc brakes and what ever else, and one tube is longer then the other, but not enough difference that the axles won't swap from side to side. I was just giving that suggestion as a cheap and easy fix to square up the rear end, of course that only works if everything else is right..:bigthumb:

[Bradleyrj]

But he knows whats wrong, its been wrecked, and upper boxes pulled out. Alot of people swap in SN95 chassis rear ends into fox bodies for the disc brakes and what ever else, and one tube is longer then the other, but not enough difference that the axles won't swap from side to side. I was just giving that suggestion as a cheap and easy fix to square up the rear end, of course that only works if everything else is right..:bigthumb:

Ya know, I can not confirm what year this housing is from....I guess I need to measure. I know I gotta do something though, I cant drive it like it is and cant afford to build a new rear / order new axles.

[Mustangscotty]

I've gotta complete Jag rear end.. lug nuts included..

[Darryl Buckner]

I've gotta complete Jag rear end.. lug nuts included..

Brake rotors by the pumpkin and all?:bigthumb:

[FRDnemesis]

Maybe it's a GM thing, because the controls arms on an f-body move the rear end forward and backward. The Panhard bar moves the rear housing left-to-right.


What is different about a fox body? Don't the control arms run longitudinal with the car or are the uppers angled enough to allow some lateral movement?


Just trying to educate myself.

[slowgreen99]

Maybe it's a GM thing, because the controls arms on an f-body move the rear end forward and backward. The Panhard bar moves the rear housing left-to-right.


What is different about a fox body? Don't the control arms run longitudinal with the car or are the uppers angled enough to allow some lateral movement?
Just trying to educate myself.

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[FRDnemesis]

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Thanks Brandon! Makes sense now. :bigthumb:

[oldskoolstang]

http://memecreator.net/futurama-fry/showimage.php/4231/Not-sure-if-serious-or-a-joke.jpg

Yeah, he's serious. It's my car he's talking about. Back almost 10 years ago I didn't really have the skills/tools to weld on my own spring perches when I finally swapped an 8.8 into my '70 (after breaking a few 8" rears). The shop that did the work for me made the rear almost 5/16 of an inch wider on the passenger side. So to compensate and make my wheels fit the same in the fenders I've ran a 1/4" spacer on the driver side. It's worked perfect for me for almost 10 years.....The car tracks straight as an arrow.

But my problem was minimal, his is much worse.