HDTV Display Calibration

[Carlrx7]

I'm having a display calibrator come over on saturday to tweak all the settings on my Panasonic 60" ST50. He comes highly recommended as the best over on HDJ (Highdefjunkies forum). He has quoted me 280$ which is fine with me, but may give a discount if anyone else is interested?

why spend 2000 bucks on a tv and not get the best picture possible?

Geek squad charges 250+tax. i wouldn't trust them...

here's an idea of whats its about:
http://www.youtube.com/user/spectracal?feature=results_main

now where all them ballers at!! Who else has a big screen?

-Carl

[ForceFed4g63]

I have a big screen but I'll be damned if I'm going to pay somebody to calibrate it for me. Just like with my cars, I do the research and do it myself lol.

[DolSVT00]

I have a big screen but I'll be damned if I'm going to pay somebody to calibrate it for me. Just like with my cars, I do the research and do it myself lol.

Yeah, but your not a baller with a TT corvette BS TV's and gold toufusses like Carl.

[Carlrx7]

I have a big screen but I'll be damned if I'm going to pay somebody to calibrate it for me. Just like with my cars, I do the research and do it myself lol.

http://store.spectracal.com/consumer/rent.html

Theres the entry level software and equipment, enjoy!

Some things you cant do all the way, like building an engine, you can assemble it, but boring and honing the block, you leave to the pros.

Yeah, but your not a baller with a TT corvette BS TV's and gold toufusses like Carl.

lolz

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B1LlYh6iKqs/Sr1jydqHyvI/AAAAAAAAAz4/rfiPsT7ayUA/s400/paul-wall-grill.jpg
-Carl

[minytrker]

I have been told its worth every penny. Once the theater is done in my new house I am having it all setup by the pro's.

[ForceFed4g63]

Well considering the fact that the average person can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, I can calibrate the tv just fine without renting or buying any software and equipment. But Randy is right, maybe I'd change my tune if I was a baller like Carl and actually had expendable income lol.

[namewastaken_0_0]

Waste of money. Takes too much time to explain.

Plus, there are free calibrators......you're paying a guy to move options around based on what he sees, and what his calibrator says.
edit: I see this is an auto calibrator. My point still stands.


But its cool, it's your money.


Oh, PS: HD from cable service providers is not true HD.....waste of money.

[namewastaken_0_0]

What kinda tv's do you have anyway?

[Carlrx7]

Well. This is my thread so explain yourself or Stfu!


What kinda tv's do you have anyway?

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[namewastaken_0_0]

Well. This is my thread so explain yourself or Stfu!


Read 1st post

Well, first and foremost its a waste because if you have a decent tv (still did not look yet). You can join up any forum that is home media based and most likely there is a thread on that tv make/model. All the time people share their settings via calibration they bought, or did themselves and people try it out and rarely hear bad things about it.

Secondly.....your eyes, their eyes, those eyes........and the camera used to calibrate......pretty much common sense to understand that a camera is going to get close to the proper color scheme. And say your eyes are off, or see colors shades off.....meh....pretty self explanatory there I suppose....

Also, the more you pay for a tv.....the better factory calibrated it is. Pioneer Kuro's are a prime example as each one is calibrated per panel..not per 5,000 like most cheap lcd/dlp/plasmas.


I installed structured wiring, and home theater set ups etc.....We worked with 14,000$ tv's.....and lower. The 14k was a custom tv made for a customer. It has no brand. And it blows the fuck out of a Kuro.

We burnt copies of a dvd, put it in the customers house and asked them questions about their sight. I personally do not see a reason for spending 10% of the cost of a tv to have it calibrated. When you can just put a test movie, or download (see; utorrent) and just move the + and -.

You used the example of building an engine......sure you send that to a machine shop.....but what about tuning the newly built engine? Do you as a wrench turner just build, then stop there? Maybe this is a proactive vs reactive scenario.....but....its whatever.

Once again , your money. If you want to save the money I will get you the dvd so you can spend 20 min's and do it yourself and save 300 bucks......

[namewastaken_0_0]

After seeing your tv and researching via a few forums......here is a cluster of settings to try.

Contrast: 83
Brightness: 53
Color: 54
Color Temp: Normal
Gamma Adjustment: 2.2

[Carlrx7]

There are a couple of 'pro' calibration settings on the net available and one of them came from this guy that is going to do mine.

Oh god please don't bring up tuning an engine. I hear people complain all the time about wanting to spend the extra "10%" to get it tuned. I say you do it right the first time and be done with it.

Sure I could probley rent the tools or even buy the entry level equipment and get buy tuning other people's tv for a 1/3 of the price. But time is money. If I had all the time in the world I'd be a rich man.

-Carl

[Carlrx7]

After seeing your tv and researching via a few forums......here is a cluster of settings to try.

Contrast: 83
Brightness: 53
Color: 54
Color Temp: Normal
Gamma Adjustment: 2.2

Lolz. Keep reading jr. And you will find all the experts would rip you to shreads.

[namewastaken_0_0]

There are a couple of 'pro' calibration settings on the net available and one of them came from this guy that is going to do mine.

Oh god please don't bring up tuning an engine. I hear people complain all the time about wanting to spend the extra "10%" to get it tuned. I say you do it right the first time and be done with it.

Sure I could probley rent the tools or even buy the entry level equipment and get buy tuning other people's tv for a 1/3 of the price. But time is money. If I had all the time in the world I'd be a rich man.

-Carl

nuff said, I understand.

If you ever need anything av related just let me know...or if you want the details of the people I have worked for, if you ever do anything big AV related.

[namewastaken_0_0]

Lolz. Keep reading jr. And you will find all the experts would rip you to shreads.

Oh. I am sorry then.

[Carlrx7]

Ever work for A/V Fidelity LLC?

[namewastaken_0_0]

Ever work for A/V Fidelity LLC?

Nah. I worked for 3 companies.......One is mom/pop....other 2 were sub-contractor companies.....working for OEM manufacturers and other wiring contract companies....

[REDRAGTOPRS]

[QUOTE=Carlrx7;184007]I'm having a display calibrator come over on saturday to tweak all the settings on my Panasonic 60" ST50. He comes highly recommended as the best over on HDJ (Highdefjunkies forum). He has quoted me 280$ which is fine with me, but may give a discount if anyone else is interested?

why spend 2000 bucks on a tv and not get the best picture possible?

Geek squad charges 250+tax. i wouldn't trust them...

here's an idea of whats its about:
http://www.youtube.com/user/spectracal?feature=results_main

now where all them ballers at!! Who else has a big screen?

-Carl[/QUOTE

I have a brand new 70" 240hz LED 3D TV.....That is baller status my friend! :bigthumb:

[Carlrx7]

Nice tv but I've seen the new LEDs And don't like them. They are best for bright rooms. Plasmas still are number one when it comes to true black.

Anyways. I decided to cancel the appointment and do it myself with the calibration disc I already own. The 280 buck will go towards some 3d blurays.

-Carl



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[ForceFed4g63]

I have a friend that has one of the new LED 3d tv's, and the quality is so high that it's distracting. The refresh rate is so high that it looks like you're on set and I do NOT like it. I know you can change that sometimes in the settings but I'm not a fan. I almost prefer the older HDTV's like I have. I also have a Plasma since it's better for gaming.

[chrisheltra]

I have LED's and at first didnt like them but now that I got used to them I wouldnt change them for anything.

[04ctd]

I did what Carl did, searched the forums, started talking to the guy...

then I searched some more..and got to playing with it myself....

and canx'ed the guy coming to do it,

and did it myself, to my liking, and am very happy with it.

a few movies have awesome video/audio "set up" things at the end, i think "CARS" is one of them.

[gearmesh, inc.]

Well considering the fact that the average person can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, I can calibrate the tv just fine without renting or buying any software and equipment.

That's been my own eye's experience, too. My eyes may be able to tell the difference on a monster size screen, but for 50" and under, I can't tell the difference.

[FRDnemesis]

I have a big screen but I'll be damned if I'm going to pay somebody to calibrate it for me. Just like with my cars, I do the research and do it myself lol.


^^^^^ Me either. The calibration is only as good as the quality of picture you are viewing anyways. So if the only thing a TV will ever see is Blue Ray, then sure. But if you are going to be watching Regular DVD's, TV broadcasts where not all channels are even HD or broadcast in anything beyond 60Hz, what would be the point in wasting the money?


Carl is a do-it-yourselfer, I had a feeling you'd change your mind Carl... :bigthumb:

[namewastaken_0_0]

That's been my own eye's experience, too. My eyes may be able to tell the difference on a monster size screen, but for 50" and under, I can't tell the difference.

What you're actually seeing the difference of is the processing power of the tv itself. Which can be seen as bad quality or difference in picture quality....

Some have high end internal, some have external. Higher end tv's have internal and can bust out 1080p like its nothing. And if switched to 720....unless you're watching broadcast, can rarely if ever see the difference....


Your eyes see 23-24fps. And although HD has nothing to do with that....the density of the picture is hard to tell with your eyes....because you're not focusing on how clear it is....you're focusing on the movie you're watching....

[namewastaken_0_0]

^^^^^ Me either. The calibration is only as good as the quality of picture you are viewing anyways. So if the only thing a TV will ever see is Blue Ray, then sure. But if you are going to be watching Regular DVD's, TV broadcasts where not all channels are even HD or broadcast in anything beyond 60Hz, what would be the point in wasting the money?


Just wanted to comment on this. When a pro comes out to calibrate your tv....he/she does it for each input.....so if you have a dvd player via rca....switch to rca and calibrate that....then hdmi for blu ray, dvi for whatever etc etc etc.....

So its not as if you use the same settings for each input. Just to clarify. This can be very important for 3d tv and blu ray viewing. I know Comcast has about 4-5 3d channels now I think?

[Carlrx7]

I have a friend that has one of the new LED 3d tv's, and the quality is so high that it's distracting. The refresh rate is so high that it looks like you're on set and I do NOT like it. I know you can change that sometimes in the settings but I'm not a fan. I almost prefer the older HDTV's like I have. I also have a Plasma since it's better for gaming.

talking about the soap opera effect? You're correct to not like it. Thats a flaw not an enhancement. I always saw it as the flip book effect.

-Carl