BWM 2002

[Matts94Z28]

Anyone have any experience with these? We are considering picking up a 1974 model with 99k original models. It has been in a container for the last 23 years and is pretty straight... just needs a good cleaning. Comes with new tires, brakes, headlights and some other odds and ends.

What would you value this car at?

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[///Mcompact]

I'm jelly.

I've never owned one, but studied them for several years when I owned bimmers. They are supposed the most fun bimmer to drive/race and are easy/cheap to maintain..

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[jmd]

it is suppose to be a good car. ls1 swap , oh srry lt1 swap in it's future?

[snakeplissken]

Auto hurts the value in my mind.

[04ctd]

i would do a quick check of common parts prices

i have only flipped a few BMW's, because the parts cost so much, no one ever replaces anything, and they just drive them until they are trashed out, and then it's a major repair

(think it was shifter on a 6 series...paid $600 for car, parts were ~$300 fix shifter)

looking at this car: you are in for carpet, seats, column, dash...

[RoadconeTuning]

if it was a Tii it'd be worth st00pid money... otherwise i think they are under 5k.

[Matts94Z28]

I can save the carpet, column is included and the dash is fine. The seat bottom can be had on ebay for $150 or gradys could fix it. Some never dull and a good paint correction will go a long way. Its just covered in dust from 1991.

I need to find out what its worth cleaned up. I see 6-10k on ebay.

[dkbmxer002]

R3vlimited.com, grassrootsmotorsports.com, guten parts are a few good sources of knowledge on them that may help ya out. Great cars!

[MonteC]

Whats the story?

[Matts94Z28]

Not really sure. The current owner pulled it out of the container it was stored in. Not sure what he has in it, but he wanted 3700 obo originally. I am sure he would end up taking 2800-3000 if I show up with 100's and a trailer.

Lisa has wanted one of these cars for a while and this one is in the price range we want. However, I want to be sure we can make some money off of it if its cleaned up and running. You know how I am.

Not sure if she will want to keep it or not at this point.

[Carlrx7]

Trailer is worth more. Hehe


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[Matts94Z28]

It is a base model...

[dkbmxer002]

Honestly if its rust free and straight I think that will matter more than it being an auto or base model.. These cars are old, people desire them... They will only become harder to find as time goes on. I think with a little work you could easily sell it for more.

Look on r3vlimited.com and bimmerforums.com and see what they go for typically.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

I never look at things as "what I can sell it for later" If I like it and ts gonna bring me joy I buy it. Of course, I lose money on every single thing I do so....

[Matts94Z28]

Honestly if its rust free and straight I think that will matter more than it being an auto or base model.. These cars are old, people desire them... They will only become harder to find as time goes on. I think with a little work you could easily sell it for more.

Look on r3vlimited.com and bimmerforums.com and see what they go for typically.

The base model comment was a joke towards Carl and his worthless TT Vette. :shock:

I think the car would be worth $5k cleaned up and operational. Parts are CHEAP on the forums as well. From what I can see, the downfall is the auto and the fact that its not a round tail light car (pre 74). However, they are still very desirable. Shawn can tell us about desirable...

I never look at things as "what I can sell it for later" If I like it and ts gonna bring me joy I buy it. Of course, I lose money on every single thing I do so....

I always try to, but sometimes I don't care and I just go for it. Honey Moody don't give a fawk! He likes, he buys!

[dkbmxer002]

Oh hahahhahah.


Bmaparts.com may have 2002 parts but I'm unsure, they offer a discount with "spece30" discount code. Realoem.com is a great site to find prices and part numbers for literally everything on a BMW.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

I always try to, but sometimes I don't care and I just go for it. Honey Moody don't give a fawk! He likes, he trades!

Fixed.

[///Mcompact]

I wouldn't give him more than 1.5-2K for it and that's generous.

It is a:
- a square tail
- auto
- not running
- not in good shape (interior wise)

No pass go and nothing near 3K.
Offer him $1,500 and wait a couple of weeks.

Any pics of the engine bay or trunk.

If you did buy it, you could do the 320i 5-speed swap.

[Matts94Z28]

I wouldn't give him more than 1.5-2K for it and that's generous.

It is a:
- a square tail
- auto
- not running
- not in good shape (interior wise)

No pass go and nothing near 3K.
Offer him $1,500 and wait a couple of weeks.

Any pics of the engine bay or trunk.

If you did buy it, you could do the 320i 5-speed swap.

We started to discuss this a bit today and he tried to come at me strong with 5k after some "research". Of course I told him no way and that I was not interested anymore. Then it was 4500, then 3500, then make an offer. I told him I would bring some cash with me Saturday and we would work it out. I guess I need to go waaaaay low on the initial offer.

I do not have anymore pictures at the moment. However, I asked him about the shock towers, floor pans and trunk pan. He claims there is literally zero rust. He did say the trunk had the factory floor pieces and jack.

I did find out that it was his uncles car which was bought new. In 1991 the ignition cylinder crapped out and it sat in the garage until 1999. It was then put in the container on a farm and has sat there since. It turns out his uncle had been cheating and left the car with his aunt, who when gave it to him as a graduation gift. The plan was to put a SBF in it and ride. He is now being stationed in WA and will have no time to mess with it.

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[RoadconeTuning]

LT1 POWUHZ

[///Mcompact]

So what happened with this?

[Matts94Z28]

We are 300 off of the 1300 I will spend. I told him I would hold the cash through the weekend, then its going back to the bank. We will see. He leaves in 3 weeks so he has to sell it.

[2001hawk]

It's prolly worth the extra monies being the BWM version.

[Matts94Z28]

I would have paid the 1600, but the car was repainted and there are some visible tape lines and sand scratches along with dings in both doors. I will pay 1300, but no more.

[///Mcompact]

I would have paid the 1600, but the car was repainted and there are some visible tape lines and sand scratches along with dings in both doors. I will pay 1300, but no more.

Hell Yeah! Don't let this motherfucker act like he knows what the fuck he has. It's an awesome platform, but it needs work and this doche (TM) needs to understand he won't get Porsche prices for a VW. Fuck him in the ear...the left one.

[Matts94Z28]

Lmfao!!

[Matts94Z28]

Well the guy agreed on $1300 and I should be picking it up next Tuesday. Should I show up with $1000? LOL


I kid.


Or do I?

[LXtasy]

Take 1300. But offer 1000 and a free car wash. ;)

[1 Slow Z]

If you do the $1000 trick, you are the official HJIC!

[Matts94Z28]

If you do the $1000 trick, you are the official HJIC!

I'm happy with the $1300... did I just day that?

[Matts94Z28]

Hmm

http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/1974BMW2002_1.jpg

[///Mcompact]

Nice!:bigthumb:


I'm happy with the $1300... did I just day that? :shock:
Hand over your J-Card.

[snakeplissken]

http://bringatrailer.com/2013/02/21/bat-exclusive-the-instructors-1973-bmw-2002tii/

Looks like it sold within the first few hours after BAT put up the ad.

[Matts94Z28]

Done deal for $1300. Big thanks to Zac and Corey for the help with it today.

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[DIGGLER]

Hmm

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this is sweeeeet!!!

[AverageJoe]

Done deal for $1300. Big thanks to Zac and Corey for the help with it today.

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Looks good!

[snakeplissken]

Well bought !

[ForceFed4g63]

Very cool, how long until the LS swap?

[///Mcompact]

Need a used clutch out of a C6 Zo6?
$100

[ForceFed4g63]

^^ lol!

[Sean]

Autocross/track car??

sent from my toilet phone

[Matts94Z28]

Not sure on the plans yet, but is a VERY solid car for the price. I'd like to get ride of the diving board bumpers and do the lower air dam on the front and maybe a 70 or so rear bumper. I think a nice set of BBS RS wheels in 15x9 would make the car stand out a good bit. Lisa is asking for a wooden steering wheel as well.

She did ask me (all on her own) how hard it would be to put a new BMW power plant in the car though. I guess that would be the route if a swap is in the future. I'd just like to make it look nice and be reliable for now.

[bambooi]

Damn I wish you would have brought 1k and see what happened. "My girl wanted a bag this weekend. All I have is 1k dude."

[dkbmxer002]

Not sure on the plans yet, but is a VERY solid car for the price. I'd like to get ride of the diving board bumpers and do the lower air dam on the front and maybe a 70 or so rear bumper. I think a nice set of BBS RS wheels in 15x9 would make the car stand out a good bit. Lisa is asking for a wooden steering wheel as well.

She did ask me (all on her own) how hard it would be to put a new BMW power plant in the car though. I guess that would be the route if a swap is in the future. I'd just like to make it look nice and be reliable for now.



I may know someone with a wood wheel, not sure how good it looks (I forget) but it was on an e30. I think they fit.

[Matts94Z28]

Well I got the car off of the trailer today and Lisa started cleaning the interior...

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I hope to get the exterior corrected and engine bay detailed this weekend. I may pull the valve cover off and do a crinkle black like the newer motors have.

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Brand new tires FTW

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[Matts94Z28]

Rear floor pans are in fact full of rust BTW.

[2001hawk]

Brand new circa 2006???

[///Mcompact]

Rear floor pans are in fact full of rust BTW.

FUQ
:mad:


I have one for sale, though. 100$.

Out of a Z06.

[MonteC]

Shoulda showed up with a grand.

[Matts94Z28]

It's still a good deal and cheap enough to make money on.

[RoadconeTuning]

S54 swap it!

[Matts94Z28]

Brand new circa 2006???

as in last week.

[2001hawk]

as in last week.

The tires were maybe installed last week, but highly doubt they were made last week.

[Matts94Z28]

The tires were maybe installed last week, but highly doubt they were made last week.

Cool story.

[GreebeanZ28]

I would say thats the case with most tires.

[Matts94Z28]

Not Boeing tires.

[GreebeanZ28]

Hot off the press.

[Matts94Z28]

Broke out the buffer today and did some work. Also have new roundels on the way.

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Corrected:

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[ShawnBoyMoody]

Looks good. That bumper would look better in my scrap metal bin.

[Matts94Z28]

Looks good. That bumper would look better in my scrap metal bin.

It will probably be there before long. I may try and remove the shock absorbers between the bumper and body so I can recess the bumper in. It looks better and would be free. You know I like free.

[BIRDMAN]

Y'all's houses are so close together! (but nicer)

[Matts94Z28]

Y'all's houses are so close together! (but nicer)

Bunch of old ass crabby people around here too. They think it is a retirement home.

[BIRDMAN]

Bunch of old ass crabby people around here too. They think it is a retirement home.

lol I'd imagine.

My neighborhood is a bit...poorer. So loud cars and motorcycles don't bother nobody. lol

[BigdaddyDupree]

real motorcycles would probably upset him, scooters are ok

[AverageJoe]

Y'all's houses are so close together! (but nicer)

Lol, they are attached

[Matts94Z28]

The first roundel showed up. Makes a huge difference imo.

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[2001hawk]

Kneeds moar monaro.

[RoadconeTuning]

Bunch of old ass crabby people around here too. They think it is a retirement home.

whens the move out party? how many loud cars can idle at once?!

[DIGGLER]

little car looks good!

[Matts94Z28]

whens the move out party? how many loud cars can idle at once?!

You know I was planning on that! Seriously. We need to see if Russ can be louder than normal, invite Nick, and let Kevin do some burnouts in my neighbors driveway.

little car looks good!

Thanks man! Can't wait to get em running.

[RoadconeTuning]

You know I was planning on that! Seriously. We need to see if Russ can be louder than normal, invite Nick, and let Kevin do some burnouts in my neighbors driveway.



Thanks man! Can't wait to get em running.

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[BIRDMAN]

Invite Weldon with his no muffler race-yacht lol

[GreebeanZ28]

You know I was planning on that! Seriously. We need to see if Russ can be louder than normal, invite Nick, and let Kevin do some burnouts in my neighbors driveway.


Just get me drunk. My vocal db level rises with each drink lol.

[snakeplissken]

Just get me drunk. My vocal db level rises with each drink lol.

Russ + Apple Pie Shine = NCPD

[Matts94Z28]

Russ + Apple Pie Shine = NCPD

Lol. No kidding.