Even Bigger Brakes

[Miker]

I'm moving up to V2 6pot calipers at the end of the month. V1s are more then enough currently but with the 441ci I'm going to be hauling some major ass. (Maybe 160 into t1 at Roebling?)

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[GreebeanZ28]

5 bucks says my stocker will still win at the dragstrip. LOL!

[ForceFed4g63]

Lol

[Miker]

5 bucks says my stocker will still win at the dragstrip. LOL!

0-100-0?

[snakeplissken]

All 4 corners? What pads?

[Miker]

All 4 corners? What pads?

I've been running CTS-v1 calipers on all corners with HP+ pads. I have 0 fade issues now vs stock that was 2hot laps, 3 cooldown; but I'm only hitting ~143mph into turn one at Roebling. I haven't ran full course at CMP since I put on the rears; but I'm confident they would hold up into 11 and 1.

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[RoadconeTuning]

I've considered going to V2 calipers on my car(i've got the Camaro/V1 4-pot brembos stock). I had some fade coming down Ceasars Head downhill with Hawk Ceramic pads... that was only doing 80/100-45ish for a mile or two repeatedly... I was surprised i didnt cook the fluid like i did in the cobalt on stock pads.

[BIRDMAN]

I've considered going to V2 calipers on my car(i've got the Camaro/V1 4-pot brembos stock). I had some fade coming down Ceasars Head downhill with Hawk Ceramic pads... that was only doing 80/100-45ish for a mile or two repeatedly... I was surprised i didnt cook the fluid like i did in the cobalt on stock pads.

You haven't switched to ATE Super Blue yet? And for your weight of a car I'd think HPS would be better than ceramics.. Or you could get some Carbotech AX-6 pads, albeit they dust a little more and have a faint squeal.

[snakeplissken]

I put these on and they were flat out dangerous. And they didn't generate less dust either. http://www.hawkpadsdirect.com/Hawk-Ceramic-Brake-Pads-CADILLAC-CTS-V-p/649z.605.1022f_194z.570.1022r.htm

[MonteC]

Who cares about stopping!

[BIRDMAN]

Who cares about stopping!

People who rear-end other cars in traffic, in their race cars, probably. lol

[1SMKN99]

Who cares about stopping or turning!

fixed

[Miker]

I've considered going to V2 calipers on my car(i've got the Camaro/V1 4-pot brembos stock). I had some fade coming down Ceasars Head downhill with Hawk Ceramic pads... that was only doing 80/100-45ish for a mile or two repeatedly... I was surprised i didnt cook the fluid like i did in the cobalt on stock pads.

Some real pads will help. HPS.

[RoadconeTuning]

You haven't switched to ATE Super Blue yet? And for your weight of a car I'd think HPS would be better than ceramics.. Or you could get some Carbotech AX-6 pads, albeit they dust a little more and have a faint squeal.

whats funny is the ceramics squeal already and dust WAY more than I expected they would... well i'm assuming they are still ceramics based off of what the posts i found by the previous owner say. I was considering switching to HP+ pads if i made the switch. Cobalt had Ferrodo 2500's and from what i saw that was slightly more aggressive than an HP+ and i liked how they did once i switched to blue.

[RoadconeTuning]

I put these on and they were flat out dangerous. And they didn't generate less dust either. http://www.hawkpadsdirect.com/Hawk-Ceramic-Brake-Pads-CADILLAC-CTS-V-p/649z.605.1022f_194z.570.1022r.htm

GM puts pretty nasty pads in the stock brembos from the factory. Cobalt came with Ferodo 2500's and would eat a set of rotors per set of pads.

I hope to god what i have arent ceramics, they puke dust

[BIRDMAN]

I wouldn't recommend HP+ for street use.

[BIRDMAN]

I hope to god what i have arent ceramics, they puke dust

I hate to say it, but I don't think those are ceramics.. Go pull one off and look lol

[Miker]

I wouldn't recommend HP+ for street use.

If you have heard my squeaky brakes at SSS that's HP+ noise.

[RoadconeTuning]

I hate to say it, but I don't think those are ceramics.. Go pull one off and look lol

I kinda hope they are ceramics... then again They took some nasty abuse on that mountain run.. The WRX in front of me(Carl Brown, said it was just running autozone ceramics and autozone rotors) had SERIOUS smoke pouring out of the front brakes on a ceasars head downhill run and I know i was more aggressive with the brakes when i went a few weeks later on the 20's.

[GreebeanZ28]

I have some sort of HP pads that arent listed lol. They shoot fiyarrrr off.

[///Mcompact]

I'm moving up to V2 6pot calipers at the end of the month. V1s are more then enough currently but with the 441ci I'm going to be hauling some major ass. (Maybe 160 into t1 at Roebling?)


You're going a little crazy w/the brake calipers, man! Have you done any ducting for them at all, yet?

Real talk: Are you going to swap to a 6-speed? I hope the answer is yes.



whats funny is the ceramics squeal already and dust WAY more than I expected they would... well i'm assuming they are still ceramics based off of what the posts i found by the previous owner say. I was considering switching to HP+ pads if i made the switch. Cobalt had Ferrodo 2500's and from what i saw that was slightly more aggressive than an HP+ and i liked how they did once i switched to blue.

That's the good shit rite ther!!!:bigthumb:

If that is an actual stock brake pad for certain GM models, I'd be highly impressed. Ferodos, IMO, are the best street/AX pad. I'm on my 2nd set.

[RoadconeTuning]

They are ferodo rebranded as brembo and then rebranded as ac delco... 215 a set thru crateenginesdepot.com

THe pads did awesome and basically the only time people changed away from them was for xr1s lol

[Miker]

You're going a little crazy w/the brake calipers, man! Have you done any ducting for them at all, yet?

Real talk: Are you going to swap to a 6-speed? I hope the answer is yes.

I haven't gotten the V1s to fade so I haven't felt a need for ducts.

Ducts will be part of my oil cooler/splitter project.

Never felt the need for a M6. I will be doing paddle shifters sometime.

[RoadconeTuning]

so whats the purpose in the bigger brakes then? i thought you ran on a meh street tire... going from worn out RE050A's to new NT555's allowed me to dig deeper into the brake pedal enough for it to fade and NT555's are garbage.

[GreebeanZ28]

Re11's are the baddest, nastiest shit you can run Cone. Dont question Miker. Lol.

[BIRDMAN]

Re11's are the baddest, nastiest shit you can run Cone. Dont question Miker. Lol.

They must come standard on the GTOnaro ACR racecars in the Australian V8 Supercar racing league.

[RoadconeTuning]

Re11's are the baddest, nastiest shit you can run Cone. Dont question Miker. Lol.

I'm waiting to hear about how Azenies are the shiz

[adamcs]

I run nothing but azenies on mine and I wouldn't run anything else

[Miker]

so whats the purpose in the bigger brakes then? i thought you ran on a meh street tire... going from worn out RE050A's to new NT555's allowed me to dig deeper into the brake pedal enough for it to fade and NT555's are garbage.

RE-11s aren't a "meh street" tire. Best 200treadwear (Below 200 isn't a street tire in SCCA Rules) tire you can get.

I pull 1.8 60fts with -2.0* camber in the rear on them; and they are the best handling non r-comp you can buy to boot.

[RoadconeTuning]

I think bobby pulled 1.8 60-fts on nexens in his stock suspension automatic...

[BIRDMAN]

RE-11s aren't a "meh street" tire. Best 200treadwear (Below 200 isn't a street tire in SCCA Rules) tire you can get.

I pull 1.8 60fts with -2.0* camber in the rear on them; and they are the best handling non r-comp you can buy to boot.

What times do you get with that 1.8?

[RoadconeTuning]

not enough bro

[Miker]

What times do you get with that 1.8?

12.4 @ 113.

My car isn't setup for straight line stuff

[RoadconeTuning]

it only ran 113 with heads and cam?!

[BIRDMAN]

it only ran 113 with heads and cam?!

Brakes weighed him down.

[dkbmxer002]

I pulled 1.8's on a 245 fuzion. I'm not impressed.

[Miker]

it only ran 113 with heads and cam?!

Stock stall. Stock cat back.

Again; goes back to... How many fucks do a give about how fast my car is in a straight line? 0.

[dkbmxer002]

Then why did you bring it to a 1/4 track? You road race an auto but don't care about the 1/4? Lol

[Miker]

Then why did you bring it to a 1/4 track? You road race an auto but don't care about the 1/4? Lol

It was the IRS shootout at Darlington. I'm not going to drive that far and not race.

[GreebeanZ28]

Stock stall. Stock cat back.

Again; goes back to... How many fucks do a give about how fast my car is in a straight line? 0.

You said something about a big motor and 160 mph at Roebling.

Just sayin'. Lol

P.s.: Super Sports>re11

[BIRDMAN]

It was the IRS shootout at Darlington. I'm not going to drive that far and not race.

That's not your only time at a strip..

[RoadconeTuning]

P.s.: Super Sports>re11

this... x1000

[Miker]

this... x1000

They are a good sticky performance tire for street duty but they don't handle heat. I was disappointed when I tried them out at Michelin's Lauren Proving Center.

[Miker]

That's not your only time at a strip..

That was my 2nd time out since I put the new motor in it; first time was at Dorchester and I wasn't happy with my times at all. I normally go out once or twice a year.

[GreebeanZ28]

They are a good sticky performance tire for street duty but they don't handle heat. I was disappointed when I tried them out at Michelin's Lauren Proving Center.

Hell mine work better WITH heat. I havent been disappointed one time with them. You must have been on a Uniroyal Tigerpaw at Michelin.

[snakeplissken]

Hell mine work better WITH heat. I havent been disappointed one time with them. You must have been on a Uniroyal Tigerpaw at Michelin.

Just got mine mounted today. Was pleased with them on my RS4 but then again never took them to any proving grounds.

[Miker]

Hell mine work better WITH heat. I havent been disappointed one time with them. You must have been on a Uniroyal Tigerpaw at Michelin.

They were brand new Super Sports a C6 Grandsport that I was giving ridealongs in for the day. They got greasy when hotlapped vs the RE-11s that stay consistent.

[///Mcompact]

Unless something as changed: RS3>DZ*specs>RE11

I've ran the Direzza star specs and they were a total AX tire, just like I'm sure the RS3s are. Gripped like crazy, handled the heat, stiff sidewalls....but laughable in the rain, loud as fuck and wore-out in under 10K miles (comes w/the territory).

All three of these tires are NOW classified as "200 Wear rating" to conform to the new street tire requirements.

[RoadconeTuning]

I put 4k miles on the set on my cobalt... The only time they got too hot was when i was over driving the car... and then they had breakaway characteristics similar to an R-Compound...

side by side on two cars at the track the SS will uberpwn the RE11's lap times...

[ForceFed4g63]

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[BIRDMAN]

I've been thinking about upgrading the ///Mslow tires to NT05s...right now it has Pilot Sport A/S which I doubt will be that good at an autox.

[GreebeanZ28]

I got nt05's on Camaro. Theyre great for the price, but just ok when compared to the GTO's suoer sports.

[Matts94Z28]

I've got BFG's.

[BIRDMAN]

I got nt05's on Camaro. Theyre great for the price, but just ok when compared to the GTO's suoer sports.

Price is a major factor..otherwise I'd probably get Thooper Thports for all my DD vehicles lol

[Miker]

Unless something as changed: RS3>DZ*specs>RE11

I've ran the Direzza star specs and they were a total AX tire, just like I'm sure the RS3s are. Gripped like crazy, handled the heat, stiff sidewalls....but laughable in the rain, loud as fuck and wore-out in under 10K miles (comes w/the territory).

All three of these tires are NOW classified as "200 Wear rating" to conform to the new street tire requirements.

Re-11s last 20k miles on my car racing nearly every weekend, abusing the shit out of them. I also run -3 and -2 camber. They ride perfectly quiet and are great in the rain.

At least on my car they are the perfect tire.

[adamcs]

I've been thinking of upgrading to the new pros, I'm on Hoosiers now and they are pretty sticky for a street tire

[GreebeanZ28]

Price is a major factor..otherwise I'd probably get Thooper Thports for all my DD vehicles lol

I may try a set of BFG Rival's on the Camaro next. Gonna have to step up to a Miker sized 18 in dub, nobody makes jack shit in a 17 anymore wider than a 245 except the nitto/toyo stuff.

[Miker]

I may try a set of BFG Rival's on the Camaro next. Gonna have to step up to a Miker sized 18 in dub, nobody makes jack shit in a 17 anymore wider than a 245 except the nitto/toyo stuff.

I've seen 3 sets of rivals have very bad tread splice splitting. STAY AWAY.

It is also worth noting when I was at the Michelin Proving Grounds I was told the rivals use the same compound of rubber as the Super Sports. BFGoodrich and Michelin are the same company.

[GreebeanZ28]

Gonna put on some Rivals and come Monaro hunting.