Let's talk street setups!!! [Archive]

BigdaddyDupree

10-09-2014, 08:16 PM

Ok guys here is the deal. A friend and I were talking about setups earlier in the day for a true street car. By street car I am referring to a car you can drive anywhere without limitation. I want to have my car so that I could daily it if I wanted too but I also want it to have great drive ability. The options in my eyes are as follows.

Car has a 6.0 and a/c with a 4l80e.

Option 1: Turbo Pro's and con's

Option 2: Procharger Pro's and con's

Option 3: Heads/Cam Setup

Of course with each setup will have a matching converter for the needs. And I'm talking true street car not a car you can drive 10 miles with a glide.

Would love to hear from people that have had setups and what they liked and didn't like. I want to be able to drive anywhere and if I want make a pass at the track and drive home.

GO

BIRDMAN

10-09-2014, 08:37 PM

Option 4: LSx swap

WTFWSAT

10-09-2014, 08:39 PM

Sbf 4r70w...twins :mrgreen:

BigdaddyDupree

10-09-2014, 08:45 PM

Option 4: LSx swap

It's already an LSX swap. just talking about the next step

DIGGLER

10-09-2014, 09:12 PM

turbo setup or blower can be good, but they tend to be more "complicated" with more stuff to worry about. twin turbo setups can create some insane underhood temps. might have to do things up front like move the radiator foward to make room for a big single or a blower with a wide drive belt. running an exhaust out the back on a turbo car might get crazy depending on where you have the turbo/s.
depending on how fast you want to go, a nitrous setup can make for a very kickass street car. a streetable heads/cam 6.0 with a 150-200 shot can go 9's in a decent car. run pump gas in the stock tank and race gas in a standalone cell up front. pretty simple, reliable, and works really well. oh, and setup the converter/gear for the nitrous so it will drive more like a stock car... wont be as fast off the bottle though.

schardbody

10-09-2014, 09:38 PM

you can make a pass as is, what is the goal on said pass?

with what you have already i'd go the easy route, L92 top end, and spray it. keep a/c, stock driveablity and make respectable passes.

BigdaddyDupree

10-09-2014, 10:03 PM

My Tbss had a l92 setup and I like it a lot. I have options. I've got some AFR225's, a set of ported 243's somewhere, a procharger and a s480 turbo. Decisions decisions.

Bradleyrj

10-09-2014, 10:31 PM

The BEST option.. is to leave it alone and drive it. If you build it, your going to work on it. We all know that. Its a CLEAN driver. Leave it alone and enjoy it.

Mike

10-09-2014, 11:46 PM

Turbo if you can keep the ac, otherwise option 4: NOS with a mild cam/head combo that doesn't ruin drivability.

Note: Wikipedia lists NOS as another name for nitrous oxide, now I know why my kid's teachers won't allow Wikipedia as a source.

98Camarod

10-10-2014, 02:55 AM

Go turbo!

BigdaddyDupree

10-10-2014, 06:19 AM

Leaving it alone really isn't an option. I don't wanna get stupid but I do want a nice reliable drive that is enjoyable. I'm not afraid to shoot something. The turbo would make it almost impossible to keep a/c and power steering. My Tbss has been flawless I've put around 6k miles in the last year. I'd like a car that runs 7.0 or faster and I can drive cross country.

Bradleyrj

10-10-2014, 07:08 AM

Leaving it alone is an option. I wish I hadnt done a lot of the crap I have to mine now. Should have stayed N/A 5 speed and just drove it. Fuck this race car shit.

Blue Skunk

10-10-2014, 07:35 AM

Procharger, as long as you can keep the A/C.

BigHemi

10-10-2014, 07:43 AM

Tyler...I'd do a good heads and cam package. Should be able to run very respectable N/A and be completely reliable.

RoadconeTuning

10-10-2014, 08:48 AM

fancy heads and a baby cam

BIRDMAN

10-10-2014, 10:06 AM

LS7 cam!

GreebeanZ28

10-10-2014, 10:52 AM

Stock 6.0 and a 76 mm. Maybe ls6 cam. Drive stock, runs 6's. 20+ mpg

BigdaddyDupree

10-10-2014, 12:47 PM

I've got some AFR225's already.

GreebeanZ28

10-10-2014, 01:38 PM

Sell em.

DIGGLER

10-10-2014, 02:12 PM

How much? Lol

Matts94Z28

10-10-2014, 06:01 PM

Whatever retains A/C.

minytrker

10-11-2014, 12:01 AM

Easiest setup for a streetcar is procharger or a whipple. You dont have to change your exhaust, lose AC or change accessories. I am not huge fan of either for all out racing BUT for a street car either one of those are hard to beat.

BigdaddyDupree

10-11-2014, 09:06 AM

I was hoping you and others would chime in Lorenz that had dealt with similar setups before. Thanks!

ElecTech

10-13-2014, 07:56 AM

Magnacharger 2300, if it were me. They are very reliable and have very good adiabatic efficiency which keeps IATs manageable.

04ctd

10-13-2014, 08:45 AM

The BEST option.. is to leave it alone and drive it. If you build it, your going to work on it. We all know that. Its a CLEAN driver. Leave it alone and enjoy it.

this man speaks truth.

i would leave it alone.
dead reliable, plenty fast, cold AC, and dont require tweaking every time the weather changes..

just drive it & enjoy it.

look at Kevin's 55....basically stock, been together for years, and drives it anywhere, any time.

whatever happened to the Race Dime?

RoadconeTuning

10-13-2014, 08:46 AM

efficient acrobats is whur it at

BigdaddyDupree

10-17-2014, 06:15 AM

Well I had pretty much decided to leave the car be until last Sunday. I was on the way home and it came apart and last night I unbolted to converter to see if it was an engine noise or trans. Well considering it broke a rod in half n it came out the bottom I think it was the motor.

ElecTech

10-17-2014, 06:38 AM

Dang, that's tough to hear.

BigdaddyDupree

10-17-2014, 07:34 AM

Yup stock motor came apart which I find odd as well as it ran. But can't change it now. Daytona is coming up. Time to get poor!

BigdaddyDupree

11-05-2014, 10:27 PM

Well here is an update on this whole deal. I have had a Built motor (370") for a few years and I decided to go ahead and put it in with some AFR heads and a converter. Sunday a week ago I put it in and pushrods came in wednesday and I went to crank it. No cigar. Checked everything twice finally decided it had to be an issue with the reluctor wheel so I pulled it back out Sunday and low and behold the reluctor is on backwards. Sucks but I am getting it fixed tomorrow then I just have to put the motor back together and put it in the car. It will run or burn this weekend.

Carlrx7

11-05-2014, 10:32 PM

For street car F1R/YSI blower. Run a restrictor plate on the intake or wastegate on the charge tube to limit boost pressure and a meth kit for full boost. I'd buy a used C5/6 kit for 2500 and mod it to fit (replace with new bigger head unit when it all fits right).

-Carl

BigdaddyDupree

11-05-2014, 10:40 PM

I actually have a D1 kit already. Great minds think alike carl!

DIGGLER

11-06-2014, 06:48 AM

ElecTech

11-06-2014, 08:50 AM

Do people run restrictor plates with blowers like that? Why not just slow it down?

You get the boost in faster by overdriving it. The larger head units really need to spin to get in the sweet spot.

DIGGLER

11-06-2014, 12:41 PM

You get the boost in faster by overdriving it. The larger head units really need to spin to get in the sweet spot.

But what would be the point of speeding it up and the sticking a restriction in front of it? I understand the bleed-off concept but not the restriction concept.

ElecTech

11-06-2014, 01:35 PM

But what would be the point of speeding it up and the sticking a restriction in front of it? I understand the bleed-off concept but not the restriction concept.

By limiting the inlet air you can limit total boost production. It sort of stalls out in simple terms.

slow94

11-06-2014, 01:48 PM

Don't think restricting boost would be good for a centrifugal compressor. Just use a wastegate if you want it to hit hard down low without running a "ton" of boost up top. Although if he has a D1, just pulley it accordingly. The D1SC is a pretty stout blower.

RoadconeTuning

11-06-2014, 02:38 PM

the restrictor stuff is goofy.... the wastegate setup makes sense but why not spin a smaller blower harder for that?

GreebeanZ28

11-06-2014, 02:48 PM

Jeffs vette up here has a restrictor. Seems to work.

04ctd

11-06-2014, 04:14 PM

Jeffs vette up here has a restrictor. Seems to work.

put restrictor plate on the Odyssey & call out the FeBreeeZe again, make it fair!

j/k...its been a SLOW day today....our network is barely working

BIRDMAN

11-06-2014, 04:59 PM

"FeBreeeZe" lmao

RoadconeTuning

11-06-2014, 05:34 PM

I need 20 and the break because my vtec isnt working.

DIGGLER

11-06-2014, 06:15 PM

the restrictor stuff is goofy.... the wastegate setup makes sense but why not spin a smaller blower harder for that?

This would work better than a restrictor on a larger blower. Would be cheaper, and less hp wasted trying to squeeze a boatload of air through a nozzle. Run the smaller blower faster instead. I cant think of a single reason to restrict your intake system. Might as well put a big blower on a flathead ford.

DIGGLER

11-06-2014, 07:07 PM

Im hoping these restrictors are being installed on the air inlet to the blower...... which would work decent.

GreebeanZ28

11-06-2014, 07:35 PM

Jeffs is in the airfilter. Turning the smaller blower harder still doesnt have the "hit" that a turned down big one does plus the smaller unit turned up makes more heat than the biggun with a restrictor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nlOyhYnImc

DIGGLER

11-06-2014, 09:16 PM

Yea a reducer on the inlet would be worlds better than a restrictor plate behind the tb.

1997b4c

11-06-2014, 09:55 PM

roots blower on the street is where its at!!!

DIGGLER

11-07-2014, 06:40 AM

NOSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ElecTech

11-07-2014, 09:31 AM

By limiting the inlet air you can limit total boost production. It sort of stalls out in simple terms.

Yea a reducer on the inlet would be worlds better than a restrictor plate behind the tb.

Just had to make sure I didn't speak inaccurately.

ElecTech

11-07-2014, 09:32 AM

roots blower on the street is where its at!!!

This.

DIGGLER

11-07-2014, 11:15 AM

Just had to make sure I didn't speak inaccurately.

Sorry I didnt even see this post. I lost myself when I saw "restrictor plate on the intake". I think everyone was referring to a reducer on the inlet.