E85 in Charleston Area?

[Pesce Nero]

has anyone seen E85 in the Charleston Area? thinking about making the switch if i could get it.

[WWhittle]

doesnt your gas mileage cut in half with that stuff?

[///Mcompact]

The gas station on Ladson, next to show zone (towards Dorchester RD) has E85.

It's the only station with it in Charleston (what I was told by an E85 user).

[Pesce Nero]

from the research i have been doing, E85 will need about a 30% increase in fuel to equall gas. but e85 is cheaper, you can run more compression, more timing and the engine runs much cooler. some guys have said they actually have a hard time getting there temp up.

both gas and e85 needs heat to vaporize fuel. this is not a problem with gas because an engine will warm up quickly and put heat into the intake but for e85 this could be a problem when it gets cold out, and some areas( i dont know if SC is one of the areas) they drop the e85 to e70 in winter months.

e85 octane is around 110. spray on pump gas

[///Mcompact]

E85 is great...if it was as cheap as it was supposed to be. The station in town is price gouging the hell out of it..which is negating it's higher knock resistance qualities.

[Pesce Nero]

E85 is great...if it was as cheap as it was supposed to be. The station in town is price gouging the hell out of it..which is negating it's higher knock resistance qualities.


hhhmmm, i have seen it under $3 a gallon a couple weeks ago in the florence/darlington area. maybe call live five news and they could do a story on their price gouging. even if they are price gouging and the news brings it up, other stations may add it too thinking they could make some money

[Pesce Nero]

i just called the ladsen store that sells the E85, $2.99 a gallon. compare that to race gas:bigthumb:

[slow04]

What do you have to do to change over to E85?

[Pesce Nero]

from what i'm finding out, not much. i'm a carb guy and i do all my own carb work. so for a carb, your basically enlarging all fuel restrictions 25-30%. you go up on jets, idle feed restrictors,squirters, pumps, pvcr's and so on. may need to reduce air bleed sizes.

on efi, i really dont know, larger injectors maybe and have a new fuel curve mapped out. for max efficiency, you shoot for 8something to1 compared to gas being at 15 to 1 and for max power with e85 you shoot for 6something to 1 compared to 12.5-13 to 1 with gas.

also, dont know if this is true but i also read that e85 carries its own oxygen in the fuel so it may look like you need to double e85 but it really only works out that you need around 30% more compared to gas.

as far as fuel lines and pumps go, alot of people are really confused because running methenol requires stainless lines and all that good stuff because its very costic but ethenol is not all all. actually very enviromentally friendly.

again, i just started researching this last night so i'm no expert

[KRYPTONITE]

from what i'm finding out, not much. i'm a carb guy and i do all my own carb work. so for a carb, your basically enlarging all fuel restrictions 25-30%. you go up on jets, idle feed restrictors,squirters, pumps, pvcr's and so on. may need to reduce air bleed sizes.

on efi, i really dont know, larger injectors maybe and have a new fuel curve mapped out. for max efficiency, you shoot for 8something to1 compared to gas being at 15 to 1 and for max power with e85 you shoot for 6something to 1 compared to 12.5-13 to 1 with gas.

also, dont know if this is true but i also read that e85 carries its own oxygen in the fuel so it may look like you need to double e85 but it really only works out that you need around 30% more compared to gas.

as far as fuel lines and pumps go, alot of people are really confused because running methenol requires stainless lines and all that good stuff because its very costic but ethenol is not all all. actually very enviromentally friendly.

again, i just started researching this last night so i'm no expert

your car never comes out the garage but what maybe 2 times a year, for a trip down old 52 for 1.7 miles and back to the garage it goes:hysterical: so what you spend $10.35 a year ( where do you work, you need to ask for a raise):Finger2: :poke:

[slowgreen99]

hahaaha, Kryp, is this a call out?? I think it issss

[KRYPTONITE]

hahaaha, Kryp, is this a call out?? I think it issss

Hell i do that race,:Finger2: if it comes out the garage:hysterical::hysterical: then i will show him what a real street cars is all about:hail:

[Pesce Nero]

Hell i do that race,:Finger2: if it comes out the garage:hysterical::hysterical: then i will show him what a real street cars is all about:hail:

your the baddest motha on the board marcus. i dare not mess with your bad ass car:hail:

[KRYPTONITE]

your the baddest motha on the board marcus. i dare not mess with your bad ass car:hail:

:hysterical:THATS RIGHT:bigthumb:

[WWhittle]

:hysterical:THATS RIGHT:bigthumb:


no its not- i'm the bad bitch

[1998ta__1991rs]

:hail:

[KRYPTONITE]

no its not- i'm the bad bitch

:hysterical: thats funny I was waiting for that

[LXtasy]

I do know on a stockish vehicle that running e85 is like pissing money down some coke girls throat. Cheaper at the pump, but less mileage per tank.

Unsure on a modified vehicle "tuned" for it.

[wade w]

I know some guys that have had it for a while were they live, and they have tryed it. You have to change a lot of stuff. It will eat anything rubber and make anything steel rust. All the rubber stuff has to be changed to neopreen and the stell changed to stainless or maybe aluminum. One guy I know put it in a turbo coupe. It picked it up but it took out the fuel pump after a while because he didnt change anything.

[WWhittle]

I know some guys that have had it for a while were they live, and they have tryed it. You have to change a lot of stuff. It will eat anything rubber and make anything steel rust. All the rubber stuff has to be changed to neopreen and the stell changed to stainless or maybe aluminum. One guy I know put it in a turbo coupe. It picked it up but it took out the fuel pump after a while because he didnt change anything.

That's more like the stories i have heard

[Pesce Nero]

I know some guys that have had it for a while were they live, and they have tryed it. You have to change a lot of stuff. It will eat anything rubber and make anything steel rust. All the rubber stuff has to be changed to neopreen and the stell changed to stainless or maybe aluminum. One guy I know put it in a turbo coupe. It picked it up but it took out the fuel pump after a while because he didnt change anything.


yep, heard that too but others say no problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuOs1yap8mU

[1iron]

Shocking that the American Coalition for Ethonol found no problems. :hysterical:



Paul

[Darryl Buckner]

That's more like the stories i have heard

Me to. I have never messed with E85, I have messed with straight alcohol, but way different..:bigthumb:

[Mach Killer]

Me to. I have never messed with E85, I have messed with straight alcohol, but way different..:bigthumb:

Ive messed with alcohol toooo! :cheers

[///Mcompact]

A local Evo isn't running into problems with E85 in his stock fuel system (other than having to upgrading to bigger injectors). There are probably a good 100 evos running it in their stock fuel lines on Evom...still haven't seen a complaint.

AMS put a stock evo fuel system, they had laying around the shop, into several jars/vats filled with E85 and left it submerged for 1-1.5 years. After that time they pulled it all out and found that nothing was eaten away or gummed up.

I'm real paranoid about messing with the reliability of my daily driver..but even I would feel safe using E85 in my stock fuel lines. The only reason I'm not using it is because of it's high rate of consumption needed, lack of availability(road trips), and it would require me to upgrade my injectors ($$) and re-tune the maps(time).

[wade w]

I have never tryed it myself so I dont really know. The turbo coupe may have hade thoes problems because it was older or the pump was about to go out anyway.