Stock Z06 blows engine on track

[chrisheltra]

GM covered it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLT7DjnKvnY

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Z06 Blows Engine [Video] - Corvette Forum (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z06-discussion/2385822-z06-blows-engine-video.html)

[BAD BOB]

thats why you shouldnt road race!

[LXtasy]

Thats why you should just enter car shows.

[Pesce Nero]

i like the pistons. they go either direction. must be for those quality GM employees

[Harry]

Looks like a nitrous backfire!!

[clubracergt1]

GM covering engines when guys miss shifts? No wonder they are BK

[chrisheltra]

GM covering engines when guys miss shifts? No wonder they are BK

So are you saying the Ford warranty doesn't cover you if you miss a shift? Ford sounds as bad as Nissan with the GTR.

[LXtasy]

he didnt miss a shift. and why should it not be covered , its stock? it could have been a cruise control switch catching fire

[Illusions]

Now we know why you don't see many newer warrenty covered mustangs at the track. They have a legitimate reason, Ford will void warrenty if any problem is suspected to be due to driving any different than a 90 y/o lady on her way to church on Sunday.

Another reason to buy GM

[Pesce Nero]

several year ago a guy bought a new Viper, he was taking it to the drag strip and constantly breaking rear ends, he sued Chrysler saying the car was a lemon. he won a bunch of money kept the Viper. he then went and bought a Vette, started blowing up engines, sued GM saying the car was a lemon. he won a bunch of money. the man owns a Viper and a Vette now

i read this story a few years back

[Darryl Buckner]

Don't know why Ford wouldn't cover things like rearends and tranny's under warranty. I have more advertisement pics from Ford showing Mach's smoking the tires, and even a newer GT at the drag strip. Hell you can even get a new GT with a track pack option, and a warranty.

[LXtasy]

Don't know why Ford wouldn't cover things like rearends and tranny's under warranty. I have more advertisement pics from Ford showing Mach's smoking the tires, and even a newer GT at the drag strip. Hell you can even get a new GT with a track pack option, and a warranty.

but you use it , you lose it (warranty). remember when the evos came out, mitsubishi gave membership to scca and if you competed they wouldnt honor warranty. my philosophy is "shit happens no matter whAt ,new or old"

[slowgreen99]

Good driving by the STI

[Darryl Buckner]

but you use it , you lose it (warranty). remember when the evos came out, mitsubishi gave membership to scca and if you competed they wouldnt honor warranty. my philosophy is "shit happens no matter whAt ,new or old"

Kind of like several years ago I had an NMRA race in Reynolds Georgia. There was a Ford dealer there selling the 2 door hatchback Focus with a Wilson Proflow Nitrous kit already factory installed. They were made by Steeda, Saleen, or something. But the bottle came empty, and if you broke the seal to charge it the warranty was void. Seems like loop holes like that would keep Snake Pliskin in plenty of business..:bigthumb:

[LXtasy]

that would be saleen focus my friend. its all for show. guess thats what ford wants is showcars and nothing else

[clubracergt1]

Why should warranty be responsible for driver error? That guy either mis-shifted or overrevved that motor. At a minimum, he wasn't paying attention to his gauges. If the engine let go for no other reason, then it should be covered. I would like to see in car video from the Corvette. That will tell us if the driver made an error, of if the engine simply had a sudden, catastrophic, failure. I love the way that some of the guys on here are quick to blame the car companies when something breaks and is not covered. I cannot speak for GM, but Ford's Warranty and Policy Mnual plainly states that damage caused by racing is not covered. It is up to the dealer, and-in extreme cases-Ford's field service engineers-to determine if racing caused a failure. If I mess up on the track and break my car, I would not expect it to be covered. If I break something getting on the highway, that is a different story.

/rant

[LXtasy]

GM covering engines when guys miss shifts? No wonder they are BK

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2010-Ford-Mustang-Burnout_697329.htm

log that car into the computer as being abused :bigthumb:

[clubracergt1]

You know what the big difference there is with that video, Hal? The guy didn't blow the engine up in the Mustang.

[LXtasy]

Who is the say when it breaks on a track? the owner or ford? If it has rubber in the wheel wells doesn't mean it broke there.

The z06 was made to do that, he has more than enough track experience in cars.

So if a person drag races there drag pack mustang its not covered? oxymoron there huh? or is it only on the car for sole purpose of looking pretty at a car show or mustang board bragging rights?

Me personally, I wouldn't say shit to any dealership on what happened when a vehicle breaks. Many are looking for reasons to make an extra dollar.

[LXtasy]

No but he was beating the hell out of it. A car isn't suppose to do that. Log it into the FORD database and flag it for the sole purpose it has had high RPMS, tire smoking burnouts.. I bet the motor might be hurt now without alot of airflow going across the radiator at those high rpms sitting still :D

[clubracergt1]

First off, it's track pack, not drag pack. Just trying to help you keep your facts straight. This package is designed for handling and not for speed. Even though, it does include a 3.73 gear set. We all know that 3.73s are a waste of time on a 3-Valve.

Again, I would like to see the in-car from the Vette. Looking at the pics, it seems like he broke the head off of 1 or more valves. That, usually, does not happen unless an engine is over-revved. That is kind of hard to do with a factory programmed "safe" rev limiter without grabbing 2nd instead of 4th, or 3rd instead of 5th, or 1st instead of 3rd... you get the picture. I do not disagree that a Z06 is built to be a track toy. I just disagree with GM having to pay for someone else's mistake. Again, I don't have all the evidence; but, from what I can see, the driver broke that car, not the manufacturer.

[clubracergt1]

Good driving by the STI


+1

Very good driving, indeed.

[Pesce Nero]

First off, it's track pack, not drag pack. Just trying to help you keep your facts straight. This package is designed for handling and not for speed. Even though, it does include a 3.73 gear set. We all know that 3.73s are a waste of time on a 3-Valve.

Again, I would like to see the in-car from the Vette. Looking at the pics, it seems like he broke the head off of 1 or more valves. That, usually, does not happen unless an engine is over-revved. That is kind of hard to do with a factory programmed "safe" rev limiter without grabbing 2nd instead of 4th, or 3rd instead of 5th, or 1st instead of 3rd... you get the picture. I do not disagree that a Z06 is built to be a track toy. I just disagree with GM having to pay for someone else's mistake. Again, I don't have all the evidence; but, from what I can see, the driver broke that car, not the manufacturer.

look at the last picture. rod journal blue. spun bearing caused it IMO

[clubracergt1]

Didn't see that. Just saw the head beat to shit with half a valve missing. I went and read the guy's post on CorvetteForum. I didn't know that 'vettes had a problem with this. I still stand behind my belief that, if the guy blew it up-he should have paid. It just looks like it may not have been his fault.

[Pesce Nero]

Didn't see that. Just saw the head beat to shit with half a valve missing. I went and read the guy's post on CorvetteForum. I didn't know that 'vettes had a problem with this. I still stand behind my belief that, if the guy blew it up-he should have paid. It just looks like it may not have been his fault.

what does it say on the forum? how did you find that?

[LXtasy]

what does it say on the forum? how did you find that?

He read it. :hysterical:

[Pesce Nero]

He read it. :hysterical:

where? i went on there couldnt find it but its the same shit over and over

[chrisheltra]

Its definatly an ongoing problem.

Here is some info I got from elsewhere

The main issue is oil starvation in high G corners. They fixed it in 09' with a larger dry sump.

depending on the year, some had needle bearings from the rockers releasing, i believe mainly the 07s

it's a badass car and package, but like anything first run...some can and will have issues. gm went ballzy on that motor, look at those sleeves and how close together the cylinders are the motor for 427 cubes is remarkebly small in size and also very light

A local guy had his come apart while stretching it out on the interstate. Is/was completely stock. I don't know the details on how it happened. All I know is he was hauling ass. I do remember hearing a valve broke causing the chain reaction of dropped valve into cylinder, rod broke etc. Chevy covered replacing the engine.

Furthermore have you ever heard of this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Act

[Pesce Nero]

Chris, you still want one?

[chrisheltra]

Chris, you still want one?

Not a Z06. I aint rollin like that yo.

[clubracergt1]

Chris, I am very familiar with the Magnuson-Moss Act. It is very good at protecting consumers and manufacturers as well. Remember, it is not a license to steal.

Ray, there is a link to the CorvetteForum post after all of the pictures in the op here.

[Darryl Buckner]

Track pack Drag pack who gives a shit pack! The fact remains that the manufacturers rely on racing, and showing their cars on the track, and smoking the tires, ect, to sell cars. They might as well exspect people to try it for themselves, inexperienced driver and all. And as far as over revving, who is in control of the factory rev limiter? The manufacturer. I know my Mach 1 you could pin the gas to the floor in neutral and here comes the rev limiter. Now that being said, I agree tampering with the factory computer, should void the factory warranty. Its a catch 22, They cannot produce a 500 plus HP car, advertise it smoking the tires, or racing on a road course, and exspect people not to try it out. And with inexperienced drivers come accidents. Just my 2 cents..:bigthumb: