need a little help

[red99pony]

i have a 4.6 that i am trying to get the dowel pins out of. the dowels (2) are the ones that the timing chain tensioners go on under the water pump. i need to get them out to put in my 4.6 that i am rebuilding and the other will be scrap. i tried pliers, vice grips, and a pipe wrench but they are just to slippery to get a bite on. i know it can be done because the one i bought doesn't have them. they are screw in type. any advice would be great. if anyone knows the part number maybe i'll just go to ford and get more. thanks

[Mustangscotty]

Maybe try heating up the area around the pins or make the pins cold with NOS?

New pins are CHEAP !

[red99pony]

i'm not sure the problem is that it is stuck, more of the problem is i can't find anything that will grip on the smooth surface of the dowels. i'm gonna go to work tommorow and see what tool i can dig up. i will definetly try the fire approach but i don't have nos.