Midway Dragway......

[dustedmopar]

IF Midway were to re-open under new management/ ownership, what would you guys like to see happen out there? I know the track has sucked in the past, well since it opened, but things may be changing so what would people like to see as a schedule? More T&T, grudge night, bracket racing, big shows? Need the input, things may be going down on it being re-opened.

[Pesce Nero]

saturday

[bwelch]

If they make it a 1/4 mile they would get plenty of business. Its a two hour drive to the nearest 1/4 mile track. And saturday racing is always a plus.

[Ballaholic29414]

I agree with the 1/4 mile idea. Making the lane as wide as Carolina Dragway's lane is another good thing, Get more involved in the racing forums to promote their track makes an huge impact also (grudgeracer.com, carolinahorsepower.com, and yellowbullet.com).

[dustedmopar]

Bracket racing on saturdays or T&T? When the track was built, it was built as if it were going to be a 1/4 mile with enough shut down for it but only made it an 1/8 so they could get some fast clubs and doorslammers out there.

[Matts94Z28]

Saturday hours, T&T, A bracket schedule for all the 8.4 second mopars to come out(no pun intended), and maybe a few grudge events through out the year. It would be nice if they were set up to run the 1/4 if you like, although I am partial to the 1/8.


Ohhh and clean restrooms... none of this Dorchester BS. I was almost robbed by a roach.

[CHEVYMAN434]

I have allways liked the bracket racing on saturday's. It really sucked having no trophies or website exposure though and the payouts were allways low.Index classes may be a good idea along with the bracket program.You could get the car count back up by just prepping the track right and getting the scoreboards working.The track has just gotten a bad name for the track prep and lack of decent races put on. Hell remember when lowcountry was full every time there was a street car races.There were three classes.It was true street which ran on a 8.0 index with pro tree,and there was a middle class which i forgot what it was called and there was extreme street for the fastest cars.They allways had a hell of a turn out and a bunch of cars and spectators.There is a bunch of people out near there who race just got to get it on and poppin again...

[LXtasy]

Clean restrooms is a must. You can always still run doorslammers in the 1/8th mile if it was 1/4mile.

1/4 mile would be preferred, but we all know that won't happen.

more staging lanes.
more paved parking in the pits.
better lighting in the pits
better stands.

Pretty much, UP DATE THE HELL OUT OF EVERYTHING

[BigdaddyDupree]

hal needs promod shutdown area.

[Derek]

Where is midway? A friend of mine recently asked about it:bond:

[bambooi]

1/4 please...

[CHEVYMAN434]

Where is midway? A friend of mine recently asked about it:bond:

It's out on 52 through bonneau,then st, stephen,and past 521 where you turn to go to greelyville.Just keep straight on 52.Out about 6 miles past 521

[Robert Holton]

Bracket Points program with a guranteed purse on saturday and test and tune grudge on every friday... and some kind of event on one friday of the month... run what ya brung... outlaw 10.5... 6.0... 7.0 index racing... street car shoot out... this track does not need to do a stock suspension race... a outlaw 10.5 will draw a big turn out as did at lowcounty and dorchester a few years back

[WWhittle]

Enough shutdown out there for WHAT to run the 1/4?

And I hate to say it, but they aren't going to get any fans in the stands running bracket anything.

Grudge racing and heads up style racing is the only thing that will get fans to the track. Bracket racing might bring a bunch of cars, but the stands will be empty.

Good track prep, clean restrooms, some decent food and a reasonable admission mixed with grudge or heads up racing should do the trick.

[Darryl Buckner]

Enough shutdown out there for WHAT to run the 1/4?

And I hate to say it, but they aren't going to get any fans in the stands running bracket anything.

Grudge racing and heads up style racing is the only thing that will get fans to the track. Bracket racing might bring a bunch of cars, but the stands will be empty.

Good track prep, clean restrooms, some decent food and a reasonable admission mixed with grudge or heads up racing should do the trick.

That is kind of a catch 22. I like heads up and grudge as much as the next guy, but 70% of you racing participants are bracket and index. They may not fill the stands as much as heads up, but their participation usually makes up the majority of the heads up payout. I wouldn't leave bracket and index off the schedule by no means..:bigthumb:

[MEEKLO]

Turn it into a quarter mile track and for everybody on this side of south carolina and track prep.

[dustedmopar]

The 1/4 mile shutdown was what the original owner said was going to be done, I don't personally know because I stopped racing once Lowcountry shut down. Track prep wont be a problem if it opens back up, what about sunday racing? Trying to get all the info and feedback possible in case it does open we can have a good track to go to that is closer for most of us.

[Robert Holton]

The 1/4 mile shutdown was what the original owner said was going to be done, I don't personally know because I stopped racing once Lowcountry shut down. Track prep wont be a problem if it opens back up, what about sunday racing? Trying to get all the info and feedback possible in case it does open we can have a good track to go to that is closer for most of us.

I agree 100 percent lowcountry was mainly a bracket track and did great for years... midway will not make it not having a bracket program... making the track 1/4 mile will not be worth the money i promise you that

[BigdaddyDupree]

me and billy have talked about it many times while bored at work. If they could get a grudge and T&T night then it would kick ass. I mean if any of us wanna go see any good racing the closest we have is bowman and dorchester. bracket racing is fine and dandy but it just doesent have a crowd. We have rode up to carolina and darlington on weeknights before but darlington is a 2+ hour ride and carolina is even further. make a friday night grudge night at midway and that bitch would be packed up. and i think if the money is there then go 1/4 mile. it would be nice to have a 1/4 mile. maybe yall could bracket race the quarter lol

[WWhittle]

I didn't say don't have a bracket program at all, I said it will not get fans in the stands like grudge or heads up racing will.

I bet my left nut that the track could open once a month for grudge, and a heads up race (like 10.5, or SS, or both) and make more money than if they opened twice a week and ran bracket races.

But I understand that bracket races serve a purpose as well.

But, if someone is making business decisions- some form of heads up racing, whether it be organized or grudge, has to be priority number one if you want fans.

And track prep- there is more to it than dragging and glueing. From the times I have been there, it appeared that maybe they needed some professional help on track prep to get them headed in the right direction.

[dustedmopar]

The problem with midway was the old owner was too damn cheap to pay for the glue and let the starting line guy do his job the right way. If the track opens back up then track prep wont be a problem. Ask anyone who raced out at Lowcountry when Ray prepped the line, there was never any problems with hooking and that's how it will be if it re-opens I'm pretty positive. What about a T&T/grudge every Friday and bracket every other satuday with some kinda event (10.5 shootout, true street, etc.) on the saturdays there arn't brackets?

[WWhittle]

If it were me, I would do a 10.5 race once a month with a free entry fee and a decent pay out. It might take a couple races to get the fans interested, but it will work. Dorchester use to do it, did hardly any advertising, and still packed the place out.

The payout has to be good enough to get the cars there that the fans will follow. With so many "events", it is spreading the racers thin.

[Robert Holton]

me and billy have talked about it many times while bored at work. If they could get a grudge and T&T night then it would kick ass. I mean if any of us wanna go see any good racing the closest we have is bowman and dorchester. bracket racing is fine and dandy but it just doesent have a crowd. We have rode up to carolina and darlington on weeknights before but darlington is a 2+ hour ride and carolina is even further. make a friday night grudge night at midway and that bitch would be packed up. and i think if the money is there then go 1/4 mile. it would be nice to have a 1/4 mile. maybe yall could bracket race the quarter lol

i dont see the need for midway to turn into a 1/4 mile track... lowcountry was ran just like i said earlier t&t on fridays and had events once a month...
I like the idea billy had to bracket racing twice a month with a different event on days there arent bracket races... lowcountry was ran like this too. I remember now

[BigdaddyDupree]

i agree with all said but still the 1/4 would be nice. agreed that lowcountry did damn good robert with the 1/8th but just think how much more bad ass it would be with the 1/4 for those who wanna try

[dustedmopar]

Orangeburg was setup to run a 1/4 before the huge remodel and I don't recall them ever using their 1/4 traps, I could be wrong though. It seems like 1/4 is what they run up north and 1/8 is what we do in the south, don't know why.

[Robert Holton]

its not going to be turned into a 1/4 mile track so there is no need to carry this on any farther.... the man thats going to get it knows how to run it

[WWhittle]

Since when has orangeburg ever had 1/4 mile traps?

[Robert Holton]

Since when has orangeburg ever had 1/4 mile traps?

i was wondering the same thing... there is no room with what is there now

[Pesce Nero]

Orangeburg was setup to run a 1/4 before the huge remodel and I don't recall them ever using their 1/4 traps, I could be wrong though. It seems like 1/4 is what they run up north and 1/8 is what we do in the south, don't know why.

insurance costs. a northern track will have a turnout 3x that of a south eastern track

[Ballaholic29414]

insurance costs. a northern track will have a turnout 3x that of a south eastern track

If thats the case then why do the up north guys come down south to race? The south is where its at, but you must not know...

If you look on youtube.com the bleachers are dead at those up north races.

[clubracergt1]

1/4 mile would be cool; but I am from up north. 1/8 mile is fine. I have not been out to Midway; but, from my experiences around here, many tracks are missing all of the pieces. Top notch track prep, racer-friendly pits and staging lanes, clean restrooms, good concessions, nice grandstands, functioning scoreboards, and "headline" events are key to a track being successful. Not to say that any of the tracks around here are not any good, but noone seems to have all of the pieces in place. Maybe I got spoiled by running at Route 66 two days a week, but they definately knew how to get it done. T&T two nights a week with car counts around 300, or so, in the height of race season was not unheard of. They also ran a weekend bracket championship and many special events. One of my favorite events was known as the "Sherriff's Challenge". The local Sherriff's department (Will County) would host an event at the track to raise funds for the Wish Apon a Star Foundation. There would be a car show, open T&T, gambler's races, and exhibition races (even a 'grudge' race between local PDs). It was typically sponsored by one of the local dealerships. This event always had a high car count, and everyone involved had a good time.

Sorry to ramble on, but just a couple of ideas I had rattling around in my head.

[Illusions]

From reading some of the comments about not wanting 1/4 mile tracks it looks like a few have their cars set up to go 1/8 and not much more. They must be afraid to get gapped in the 1/4. Just my observation from reading this thread. I may be wrong but I call it like I see it. :)

[WWhittle]

Gap deez nuts in the quarter!


And BTW- i went 8.31 at 97mph in the quarter with the parachute out at the 1/8th mile last Sunday. I bet that is still the fastest 1/4 mile pass on this forum. LOL!

[Darryl Buckner]

I can tell you something else that will reduce the amount of track prep, and clean up. Thats teching the cars before they run, maybe not in too much depth, but check for major leaks, overflow cans, ect. But that will never happen, so better get some good clean up equipment..:bigthumb:

[Illusions]

Gap deez nuts in the quarter!


And BTW- i went 8.31 at 97mph in the quarter with the parachute out at the 1/8th mile last Sunday. I bet that is still the fastest 1/4 mile pass on this forum. LOL!

I must have missed where you said anything negative about 1/4 mile. So the comment wasn't directed at you.

I feel the only reason someone would be against having a 1/4 mile track locally is if they just couldn't compete on the 1/4. They only want to run 1/8 were apparently their car runs out of gear at the traps. we need options locally. If someone wants to run 1/4 mile there are no options for them within 2 hr travel time. Sorry I grew up near Raceway Park Engishtown, NJ. I guess I'm spoiled. :roll:

[1iron]

I don't care for the 1/4 mile. When your junk is slow like mine the second 1/8th is just riding anyway.

[Mike]

I don't care for the 1/4 mile. When your junk is slow like mine the second 1/8th is just riding anyway.

:cheers

+1.
Thats what I have always said. I usually pop in a DVD movie for the 2nd half of a 1/4 mile track.

[Pesce Nero]

If thats the case then why do the up north guys come down south to race? The south is where its at, but you must not know...

If you look on youtube.com the bleachers are dead at those up north races.

I really dont know what you want me to tell you, there might not be as many in the stands but the car count is uncomparable.

[slow04]

I don't care for the 1/4 mile. When your junk is slow like mine the second 1/8th is just riding anyway.
You can always shut it down after the 1/8...it would be real nice to have a 1/4 mile track here local..definatly draw more people

[chrisheltra]

I agree I would personally like to have a 1/4 track locally. The drivers always have the option of shutting it down at the 1/8 if thats what they choose to do.

[Ballaholic29414]

I can tell you something else that will reduce the amount of track prep, and clean up. Thats teching the cars before they run, maybe not in too much depth, but check for major leaks, overflow cans, ect. But that will never happen, so better get some good clean up equipment..:bigthumb:

Orangeburg Dragstrip Tech cars like Crazy, but with a race car you cant really predict what gonna happen everytime. She might start up and run good in the yard before you get to the track and when you get in the staging lane she might start dumping oil. The only track that really has a clean up and prep issue is Dorchester Dragway, but for some reason they still pull a crowd every Sunday and I dont get that....

[slowgreen99]

Orangeburg Dragstrip Tech cars like Crazy, but with a race car you cant really predict what gonna happen everytime. She might start up and run good in the yard before you get to the track and when you get in the staging lane she might start dumping oil. The only track that really has a clean up and prep issue is Dorchester Dragway, but for some reason they still pull a crowd every Sunday and I dont get that....

Even though Dorchester does take forever, I dont blame them for all the cleaning up they have to do. People think they can go to a junkyard and grab a piece of shit car, put a 4 barrel, cam, slicks, and a pile of gas and make a race car out of it. Its people like that that should be turned around at the gate and sent home with that junk. They cant tell them not to run I guess, but there's a shit ton of ticking time bomb junk cars that run there. Its pretty annoying to see a car leave all twisted up, smokin all the way down the track, tires rubbing the fender wells, and their "boys" gettin all bent out of shape because it made one pass. And most of them are no caged cars with lap belts and borrowed engines just to make a dollar. Its really aggravating. If it was my track, 50% of the "grudge cars" there would never even make it to the staging lanes.

[Pesce Nero]

Even though Dorchester does take forever, I dont blame them for all the cleaning up they have to do. People think they can go to a junkyard and grab a piece of shit car, put a 4 barrel, cam, slicks, and a pile of gas and make a race car out of it. Its people like that that should be turned around at the gate and sent home with that junk. They cant tell them not to run I guess, but there's a shit ton of ticking time bomb junk cars that run there. Its pretty annoying to see a car leave all twisted up, smokin all the way down the track, tires rubbing the fender wells, and their "boys" gettin all bent out of shape because it made one pass. And most of them are no caged cars with lap belts and borrowed engines just to make a dollar. Its really aggravating. If it was my track, 50% of the "grudge cars" there would never even make it to the staging lanes.

That right there is one of the reasons i fear DD. yet, i seem to be the one that gets towed home every time i go there:hide:

[1iron]

Even though Dorchester does take forever, I dont blame them for all the cleaning up they have to do. People think they can go to a junkyard and grab a piece of shit car, put a 4 barrel, cam, slicks, and a pile of gas and make a race car out of it. Its people like that that should be turned around at the gate and sent home with that junk. They cant tell them not to run I guess, but there's a shit ton of ticking time bomb junk cars that run there. Its pretty annoying to see a car leave all twisted up, smokin all the way down the track, tires rubbing the fender wells, and their "boys" gettin all bent out of shape because it made one pass. And most of them are no caged cars with lap belts and borrowed engines just to make a dollar. Its really aggravating. If it was my track, 50% of the "grudge cars" there would never even make it to the staging lanes.

You talking about me?

[1iron]

You can always shut it down after the 1/8...it would be real nice to have a 1/4 mile track here local..definatly draw more people

#1 I'm not smart enough to do that.
#2 That extra 1/8th kills a lot of parts and that causes more cleanup delays.

[slowgreen99]

You talking about me?

nah, you have axles and a motor that was built to run hard.

[B.J.]

#1 I'm not smart enough to do that.
#2 That extra 1/8th kills a lot of parts and that causes more cleanup delays.

# 2 doesnt make much sense to me. most of the cars that i see break, break within the first 1/8 mile. Plus stated above you dont have to run the whole 1/4, just let out at the 1/8. I wish we had a closer 1/4 mile around here.

[Ballaholic29414]

Even though Dorchester does take forever, I dont blame them for all the cleaning up they have to do. People think they can go to a junkyard and grab a piece of shit car, put a 4 barrel, cam, slicks, and a pile of gas and make a race car out of it. Its people like that that should be turned around at the gate and sent home with that junk. They cant tell them not to run I guess, but there's a shit ton of ticking time bomb junk cars that run there. Its pretty annoying to see a car leave all twisted up, smokin all the way down the track, tires rubbing the fender wells, and their "boys" gettin all bent out of shape because it made one pass. And most of them are no caged cars with lap belts and borrowed engines just to make a dollar. Its really aggravating. If it was my track, 50% of the "grudge cars" there would never even make it to the staging lanes.

I agree with you but have you seen the cleaning equipment they are using at dorchester? When a car gets loose on the top end the guys at the starting line never goes down to figure out why and when they actually go they walk the 8th mile. Dont you think they should atleast have an 4 wheeler? Instead of having a tractor to glue the track they use a CUSTOM(I guess) built lawn mower(LMAO) You would have to go down 1 lane twice just to cover it. Dorchester Dragway makes alot of money, but they dont put money back into the track. If you were the next car to make a pass at any track and the car before gets loose unexpectantly wouldnt you feel alot safer going down that lane after the track actually gets inspected before you make your pass? Every car isnt gonna make a good pass everytime but when you get 5 cars getting loose in the same lane back to back its time for the track runners to step up and do something about it.........

[minytrker]

Orangeburg Dragstrip Tech cars like Crazy, but with a race car you cant really predict what gonna happen everytime. She might start up and run good in the yard before you get to the track and when you get in the staging lane she might start dumping oil. The only track that really has a clean up and prep issue is Dorchester Dragway, but for some reason they still pull a crowd every Sunday and I dont get that....

You think Orangeburg is bad 99% of the tracks here in TX have full NHRA/IHRA techs before you run. Its been a pain to make my camaro 100% legal but in the end its worth it. I know all the times put together i been to the tracks since I moved here I have seen less cars oil the track down vs one night at dorchester. Here the guys running the track actually wear fire suits, have actual tractors to prep and even a tow truck on stand-by for quick recovery of wrecks.

Orangeburg track could close and not to many people would care. They have a tech but they go overboard IMO alot of times. They were so agaisnt grudge racing when they first opened, I think they run off alot of customers. Plus there track prep is hit or miss. I have left Orangeburg one two seperate occasions when I couldnt hook and went straight to Bowman and cut my normal 60ft times.

Dorchester is one of the most money making tracks in the south IMO but they have the worst facilitys anywhere and payback the least. They make alot but it doesnt go back into the track thats forsure.

Bowman has the right idea, it seems the longer they are open the nicer the place gets. The restrooms are really nice, they had a real food stand, and they prep the track good. Bowman is my favorite track in SC to go to. Not only is the track nice but the people are too. They are thankful and help out when they can.

I think if midway opens back up they will have a hard time competing with Bowman. They will have to spend a ton of money just to catch up to Bowman muchless be better.

[1iron]

# 2 doesnt make much sense to me. most of the cars that i see break, break within the first 1/8 mile. Plus stated above you dont have to run the whole 1/4, just let out at the 1/8. I wish we had a closer 1/4 mile around here.

Really? And thanks for the tip. What is Darlington a two hour pull from the creek? That doesn't sound bad if you like the 1/4 mile so much.

Paul

[Ballaholic29414]

You think Orangeburg is bad 99% of the tracks here in TX have full NHRA/IHRA techs before you run. Its been a pain to make my camaro 100% legal but in the end its worth it. I know all the times put together i been to the tracks since I moved here I have seen less cars oil the track down vs one night at dorchester. Here the guys running the track actually wear fire suits, have actual tractors to prep and even a tow truck on stand-by for quick recovery of wrecks.

Orangeburg track could close and not to many people would care. They have a tech but they go overboard IMO alot of times. They were so agaisnt grudge racing when they first opened, I think they run off alot of customers. Plus there track prep is hit or miss. I have left Orangeburg one two seperate occasions when I couldnt hook and went straight to Bowman and cut my normal 60ft times.

Dorchester is one of the most money making tracks in the south IMO but they have the worst facilitys anywhere and payback the least. They make alot but it doesnt go back into the track thats forsure.

Bowman has the right idea, it seems the longer they are open the nicer the place gets. The restrooms are really nice, they had a real food stand, and they prep the track good. Bowman is my favorite track in SC to go to. Not only is the track nice but the people are too. They are thankful and help out when they can.

I think if midway opens back up they will have a hard time competing with Bowman. They will have to spend a ton of money just to catch up to Bowman muchless be better.


x2. When Bowman opened up I thought for sure they would put Dorchester out of business because very few people have anything good to say about Dorchester.

[WWhittle]

If Darin aka Streetking never came back to Dorchester, the track would close. He is the only thing out there trying to put on any kind of entertainment. They need to put him on payroll. Over the course of the last year, you probably would have only seen one or two grudge races if it weren't for Darin.

[LXtasy]

Really? And thanks for the tip. What is Darlington a two hour pull from the creek? That doesn't sound bad if you like the 1/4 mile so much.

Paul

Paul, do you not like 1/4 mile? IMO it would be nicer for one to be closer. But I understand to make a 2 hour trip to go to one. Yea yea yea. But some of us won't do the trip on a work night to go race 1/4 mile. Its nice to know what your vehicle does on the big end.

[1iron]

Paul, do you not like 1/4 mile? IMO it would be nicer for one to be closer. But I understand to make a 2 hour trip to go to one. Yea yea yea. But some of us won't do the trip on a work night to go race 1/4 mile. Its nice to know what your vehicle does on the big end.

I run 1/4mi maybe twice a year. If my car was fast it might be fun. But 140's in the 1/4 doesn't seem any more exciting than 110's in the 1/8th. I do love the launch and most of second, after that its just riding.


Paul

[Harry]

Gap deez nuts in the quarter!


And BTW- i went 8.31 at 97mph in the quarter with the parachute out at the 1/8th mile last Sunday. I bet that is still the fastest 1/4 mile pass on this forum. LOL!

Was this a typo? 97mph? You were dragging the chute from the 1/8? Holycrap!!

[B.J.]

Really? And thanks for the tip. What is Darlington a two hour pull from the creek? That doesn't sound bad if you like the 1/4 mile so much.

Paulyea but when you work shift work and get off at 6pm and have to be back to work at 6am a two hour trip both ways is a long trip.

I run 1/4mi maybe twice a year. If my car was fast it might be fun. But 140's in the 1/4 doesn't seem any more exciting than 110's in the 1/8th. I do love the launch and most of second, after that its just riding.


Paulagain, if you dont want to run the 1/4 then let out at the 1/8. you will still get your 1/8 mile time. if your car is as slow as you say it is than you are probably not out there to do as much "RACING" as you are just having fun. it would be nice to have the 1/4 for those who's cars run better on the big end.

[dustedmopar]

Orangeburg had the option for 1/4 mile years ago, probably 10-15 maybe more. My dad said he raced out there all the time when I was real little and it was a 1/4, that's the only reason I know it use to be. When the new guy bought it, he put a ton of money into it, completely tore the track up and re-did everything and made it strictly an 1/8 that's probably why it seems to not have enough room now for that option. If midway opens back up, i doubt seriously it will be 1/4 there's not enough room. I know I said earlier that it was originally set up to be 1/4 but I was wrong, sorry, it never was. It'll be staying 1/8.

[1iron]

yea but when you work shift work and get off at 6pm and have to be back to work at 6am a two hour trip both ways is a long trip.

again, if you dont want to run the 1/4 then let out at the 1/8. you will still get your 1/8 mile time. if your car is as slow as you say it is than you are probably not out there to do as much "RACING" as you are just having fun. it would be nice to have the 1/4 for those who's cars run better on the big end.

It's two hours both ways no matter what you work. That isn't bad. They run Wed. and Sat. If you work both of those days and work 12 hour days, well that sucks for you.

You quoted a post where I said 140's in the 1/4 and 110's in the 1/8. That is how slow my junk is.

Midway is never going to be 1/4mi.

Paul

[B.J.]

It's two hours both ways no matter what you work. That isn't bad. They run Wed. and Sat. If you work both of those days and work 12 hour days, well that sucks for you.

You quoted a post where I said 140's in the 1/4 and 110's in the 1/8. That is how slow my junk is.

Midway is never going to be 1/4mi.

Paul
man we can go back and forth on this all day long. i dont care what track goes 1/4 mile, i just wish one of them would. as for the times, i misunderstood what you were saying. i was thinking you were saying 14's in the 1/4. just so we are on the same page. it is 2hour to darlington, 2 hours back. so get off at 6pm, get on the road about 7pm, 2 hours there brings us to 9pm. stay 2 hours, 2 hours home, thats 1am. that leaves me 4 hour to get ready for bed and sleep and get up buy 5am to be at work buy 6am. yea 12 hour shift suck sometimes.

[WWhittle]

Was this a typo? 97mph? You were dragging the chute from the 1/8? Holycrap!!


Not a typo- chutes out at the 1/8th.

That was the first pass of the day, straight off the trailer, i will post the slip if i can.

[Harry]

Not a typo- chutes out at the 1/8th.

That was the first pass of the day, straight off the trailer, i will post the slip if i can.

Definitely not questioning you. Just Low time for 1/4 mile with that low of a mph. Must have been rolling the first 1/8. :hail:

[WWhittle]

Ok, it was a typo- the 97mph was an 8.65. The 8.31 was at 120mph, and yes, that was with the chute out at the 1/8th and coasting. First pass straight off the trailer last Sunday. i will post slip in a minute.

[WWhittle]

Here you go:


XXXXXX

[Harry]

What was the deal with the chutes out at 1/8 mile?

[WWhittle]

What was the deal with the chutes out at 1/8 mile?

I was running the 1/8th, not the 1/4. Stopping 3300 pounds at 150 is alot easier with the chute out even if it is a 1/4 mile track.

[Harry]

Gotcha. Looking good. I know there is alot more time in there though.

[WWhittle]

Gotcha. Looking good. I know there is alot more time in there though.

That was the 15th pass on the car, first pass of that day, with the small turbo on 18.5 lbs of boost, and the smaller radials- in EZ street trim. The EZ world record is a 4.91, so that particular slip isn't off by much to only be the 15th pass. Some of those guys have been trying for years to go that fast, I have been out 4 times.

I'm ready to strap the big turbo on now though.


But I still bet I am the 1/4 mile top dog with the chute out at the 1/8th and coasting through the 1/4. Bitches!

[1iron]

Man thats big mph in the 1/8th. Turbo FTW.

[WWhittle]

Man thats big mph. Turbo FTW.

For 18.5 pounds of boost on a cast wheel 94 it is. It will go 165 with the 114mm.

The EZ mph world record is 150 by the way!

[1iron]

How much better will it 60ft?

[chrisheltra]

How much better will it 60ft?

A lot

[WWhittle]

How much better will it 60ft?


1.21 to 1.22
That is my cruise control tune up. That is a lazy tuneup that will get down any track, any conditions.
It didn't make 18.5 pounds of boost until 4 seconds into the run. That is why the front half is so slow, but the back half is decent.

[WWhittle]

Here is the datalog showing RPM and Boost. For those that know what they are looking at, it shows you what i mean when i say LAZY!



http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/weswhit/Datalog.jpg

[Mike]

Here is the datalog showing RPM and Boost. For those that know what they are looking at, it shows you what i mean when i say LAZY!

Pretty cool!!!

[clubracergt1]

7831 RPMs? Damn, you are spinning the shit out of that thing. That's some crazy high oil pressure, too. We used to pop oil filters at 100, on the GT1 car.

[WWhittle]

7831 RPMs? Damn, you are spinning the shit out of that thing. That's some crazy high oil pressure, too. We used to pop oil filters at 100, on the GT1 car.


When it's dialed in I will actually shift it at 8000. Right now I am short shifting it from low to high around 7500.
The oil pressure is awesome. Got to love a 4 stage dry sump system.




And BTW- Look at the TPS, 69%. For those that don't know, that is the Throttle Position, or how open your throttle is. On this pass it started opened at like 78% and moved down to 69% through the run. Turned out the set screw on my cable was loose and letting the cable pull out. So the ticket i posted was at about 3/4 throttle. :bigthumb: Suprised nobody caught that yet.

[1iron]

I figured you were letting off at that point.

[Darryl Buckner]

I figured you were letting off at that point.

Or shit the seat! The new 114 turbo should be good for another 900hp or so correct? If so watch out, that thing will stand up on the bumper at the 330' mark.. I am like Harry holy crap!! :bigthumb:

[Mike]

I figured you were letting off at that point.

That's what I was thinking.

I seen it, but since it was at the end of your run I thought your were in the middle of letting out.

[WWhittle]

I went back and looked and it actually has gradually gone lower and lower on every pass. I found where it was pulling loose and fixed it after this pass. It should be good to go now.

[DolSVT00]

i went back and looked and it actually has gradually gone lower and lower on every pass. I found where it was pulling loose and fixed it after this pass. It should be good to go now.

http://www.carolinahorsepower.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=148&d=1260902084

You had it comming............................

[Harry]

The thread police has spoken!!! :hail:

[WWhittle]

HAHA! You are right, I definately deserved that!

[clubracergt1]

But, Randy, this would not be Carolina Horsepower if we didn't wander off topic at some point or another.

[DolSVT00]

But, Randy, this would not be Carolina Horsepower if we didn't wander off topic at some point or another.

He did it to me about a month ago, it was payback time.

[clubracergt1]

I see. :D

[Harry]

Ah. OK.

[Red99T/A]

Gotta have a 1/4 mile track. Thats pretty much a dealbreaker.

[Harry]

It doesn't look good for Midway reopening. Looks like people that are looking at it have found out it will take too much money to get it straightened out to reopen it.

[91notch]

It doesn't look good for Midway reopening. Looks like people that are looking at it have found out it will take too much money to get it straightened out to reopen it.

Yeah IMO midway has always been pretty shitty. Hell the timing lights didn't work most the time.

[chrisheltra]

Its just too far away from civilization. Yeah its in the middle of Moncks Corner and Kings Tree but jesus thats in BFE.

I miss lowcountry.....

[91notch]

Yeah the drive sucked too chris.

[Harry]

Ya, I've been a couple of times and was not impressed. I just as soon go to Jackson or Darlington.

[slowgreen99]

from my understanding midway is already bought. Ill get detail tomorrow.

[Harry]

I don't think so. But look into it. My source is fairly close.

[slowgreen99]

I don't think so. But look into it. My source is fairly close.

well a couple weeks ago one of the former "employees" of lowcountry (whom I now work with) said Ham was/did buy it. Ill see tomorrow what all went down with that.

[91notch]

Ya, I've been a couple of times and was not impressed. I just as soon go to Jackson or Darlington.

Yeah i agree.

[05Saleen]

Yeah the drive sucked too chris.

Especially on the way back and about took out 2 deer crossing the highway!!

[chrisheltra]

Especially on the way back and about took out 2 deer crossing the highway!!

Or when your towing a Lightning back to Goose Creek. lol

[soccerspike15]

ham backed out i heard

[Red99T/A]

Well, im still hoping for the best out of all this....anywhere we would be able to go run the 1/4 legally without a 3-5 hour drive is just fine with me

[Illusions]

we need a circle track so we can have roll racing too. :hysterical:

[Red99T/A]

from my understanding midway is already bought. Ill get detail tomorrow.

so is there any news?

[EDMUND FLASH]

hey'''' whats wrong with circle track''''''
i raced it for over 20 years''

[BigHemi]

WAYYY too much politics involved with circle track racing. One track here has a local engine and chassis builder doing all their tech inspections...tell me how that makes sense? He's been known to DQ number 1 when it was a customer of his that finished 2nd.
This is one of the reasons a new track opened up here a couple years ago and drew the crowd from the other one.

[slowgreen99]

so is there any news?

hey, sorry...forgot about the thread. He said Ham backed out due to DHEC/Hazmat crews having some huge issues at hand. From my understanding, when that is all taken care of, he may buy it, but the fines to come from dhec is something hes trying not to have any part of.

[KRYPTONITE]

Your right, the pond that is at the end of the track, is contaminated, I gues they have been dumpin oil and other waist in the pond, and also he is havein to fight DHEC, with lowcountry dragway bein contaminated for waist problems also, so who knows,

[slowgreen99]

Your right, the pond that is at the end of the track, is contaminated, I gues they have been dumpin oil and other waist in the pond, and also he is havein to fight DHEC, with lowcountry dragway bein contaminated for waist problems also, so who knows,

yea. From my understanding, they threw all the VHT drums in the damn pond. How stupid can you be?

[Red99T/A]

hey, sorry...forgot about the thread. He said Ham backed out due to DHEC/Hazmat crews having some huge issues at hand. From my understanding, when that is all taken care of, he may buy it, but the fines to come from dhec is something hes trying not to have any part of.

well that just flat sucks. So much for having a "local" track other than dorchester to go play at. Especially one that had the potential or possibility of becoming a 1/4 mile. :roll:

[KRYPTONITE]

well that just flat sucks. So much for having a "local" track other than dorchester to go play at. Especially one that had the potential or possibility of becoming a 1/4 mile. :roll:

that track was never going to be 1/4 mile, nor could it ever become a 1/4, that info. that has been passed around is not true, just to let everyone know:bigthumb:

[chrisheltra]

It never will be made into a 1/4 but with the land available it could be if someone wanted to invest the money.

176

[KRYPTONITE]

I don't think there is enough land there to do so, your talkin 1320FT plus atleast 660FT of shut down,

[Red99T/A]

It never will be made into a 1/4 but with the land available it could be if someone wanted to invest the money.

176

wow, my bad. I had never gone out to midway so I had no idea. thanks for clearing that up.

[Chillerman]

I don't think there is enough land there to do so, your talkin 1320FT plus atleast 660FT of shut down,

1/8 mile is not alot of shut down room for a 1/4 mile track. If it was or could be a 1/4, I wouldn't run there with only 660' to stop.