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Matts94Z28
02-22-2010, 03:59 PM
I start the hiring process next Wednesday and was wondering if any of you guys might know what all is involved in their three step process. I know I have to take a test, which I assume is a personality test, first. Anyone have any tips or info that would be useful?

chrisheltra
02-22-2010, 04:10 PM
No tips here but good luck.

Matts94Z28
02-22-2010, 05:48 PM
Thanks, I am looking forward to it.

LXtasy
02-22-2010, 07:41 PM
Get a shave and a hair cut :D

gearmesh, inc.
02-22-2010, 10:47 PM
Dupont is extremely safety driven to the point of being stupid. They will fire you for rolling a handtruck over an extension cord, take steps two at a time, etc. You are not even allowed to carry a utility knife in your pocket. Hell, if I worked there, I'm sure I would be fired for doing something I consider normal.

I have even heard of a Dupont employee away from work doing some roof repair on his own house. Just so happened that one of his supervisors drove down his street and saw him on his roof not tied off to anything. He got reprimanded for it when he went back to work on his scheduled shift.

If you still wish to pursue employment there, make sure you put an extra emphasis on safety is your number one priority in your interviews. Dupont will hire anyone that can fog up a mirror as long as they tote the company line on safety.

CINDERBLOCK
02-22-2010, 11:13 PM
study for the piss test!

Illusions
02-22-2010, 11:16 PM
Send Lisa in for the interviews.

Ok, now to be serious. Safety is a major issue with EVERY large corporation. My background includes oil refineries and chemical plants. I'm a resident contractor at BP. Although they aren't as strict as gearmesh states, they are strict on safety. Each employee goes through a course on how to intervene if you see someone doing an unsafe act. Also in this course your taught how to be receptive to the person enlightening you of your unsafe acts. We want everone to go home in the same condition or better than they reported to work. In return the company expects us to return to work in the same or better condition then how we left the day before.

Rules are there for a reason. If you can not follow safety rules you do not need to be working in that environment.

DolSVT00
02-22-2010, 11:18 PM
Dupont is extremely safety driven to the point of being stupid. They will fire you for rolling a handtruck over an extension cord, take steps two at a time, etc. You are not even allowed to carry a utility knife in your pocket. Hell, if I worked there, I'm sure I would be fired for doing something I consider normal.

I have even heard of a Dupont employee away from work doing some roof repair on his own house. Just so happened that one of his supervisors drove down his street and saw him on his roof not tied off to anything. He got reprimanded for it when he went back to work on his scheduled shift.

If you still wish to pursue employment there, make sure you put an extra emphasis on safety is your number one priority in your interviews. Dupont will hire anyone that can fog up a mirror as long as they tote the company line on safety.

Working as a contractor back in the 90's on the Hytrel expansion ^^^^ I can atest 100% to what this guy is saying. OSHA gets some of their stuff from Dupont...............................

slowgreen99
02-23-2010, 12:24 AM
Send Lisa in for the interviews.

Ok, now to be serious. Safety is a major issue with EVERY large corporation. My background includes oil refineries and chemical plants. I'm a resident contractor at BP. Although they aren't as strict as gearmesh states, they are strict on safety. Each employee goes through a course on how to intervene if you see someone doing an unsafe act. Also in this course your taught how to be receptive to the person enlightening you of your unsafe acts. We want everone to go home in the same condition or better than they reported to work. In return the company expects us to return to work in the same or better condition then how we left the day before.

Rules are there for a reason. If you can not follow safety rules you do not need to be working in that environment.

Matts94Z28
02-23-2010, 01:21 AM
Thanks for the tips guys, it may not seem like much, but I am sure it will help. I am usually pretty good at reading people and I have great communication skills due to business courses and such. I generally do great during interviews, so I am not too worried about that part. It is a good thing you guys keyed me in on how focused they are when it comes to safety. Bosch beat that stuff into my head last year and GEL doesn't play when it comes to solvents, reagents, and high radioactivity.

Illusions
02-23-2010, 08:30 AM
Good luck during the process!

KissMyWhiteSS
02-23-2010, 09:29 AM
Send Lisa in for the interviews.

Ok, now to be serious. Safety is a major issue with EVERY large corporation. My background includes oil refineries and chemical plants. I'm a resident contractor at BP. Although they aren't as strict as gearmesh states, they are strict on safety. Each employee goes through a course on how to intervene if you see someone doing an unsafe act. Also in this course your taught how to be receptive to the person enlightening you of your unsafe acts. We want everone to go home in the same condition or better than they reported to work. In return the company expects us to return to work in the same or better condition then how we left the day before.

Rules are there for a reason. If you can not follow safety rules you do not need to be working in that environment.

Just like Illusions said, EVERY large corporation has some very strict SAFETY rules. When I used to work for THOMPSON INDUSTRIAL we went to all these different plants and refineries. They all seem to have different rules and some are focused more on others. Once you learn these rules and remember to abide by them you'll be fine. Dupont is like BP, BP is VERY STRICT on their safety rules and they will make contractors sit through a safety class just about every time you visit! Good luck Matt, it will be a great place to work!

Illusions
02-23-2010, 10:30 AM
Dupont along with BP are members of the Mid-Atlantic Safety Council. MASC handles the safety training. You'll have to go for an 6-8 hr basic safety course. then take additional site specific safety training. You then have to sit in front of a computer and take a refresher course every year. luckily I get paid when i have to take these classes.

chrisheltra
02-23-2010, 10:37 AM
I say if you score the job you provide all of us with nudie pics of the girl for all of our guidance. :)

brewerz28
02-23-2010, 07:38 PM
Like I said before bud..the test is timed so dont freak out on it..just take your time..

As far as safety goes..everyone is right..but this should be expected no matter where one works..

In this line of work especially, safety always takes precedent over production.. I worked for ExxonMobile for 3 yrs out of college then when we moved here I worked for Bayer/ "we changed ownership about 4 times. So I believe the current name is Kemira." for 5 yrs and now have been out at cooper river for the last Year and half. The job is good. I get paid well and dont do shit. But the safety stuff is a little out of hand. But you would be surprised how many idiots are out in the workforce that dont adhere to the most basic rules which end up putting them and others in situations that they should never have been in.

Matt if this doesnt work out. I can put you into contact with a good friend of mine who is a supervisor at BP. Or atleast get your foot in the door out there. If I still lived on IOP connector I would have taken the job at BP..I just dont want to drive that far again..lol

Illusions
02-23-2010, 07:59 PM
BP isn't hiring. I work there. They just went through an elective retiring pkg offer to those who qualified. After that was done they still laid people off.

Matts94Z28
02-23-2010, 08:03 PM
Like I said before bud..the test is timed so dont freak out on it..just take your time..

As far as safety goes..everyone is right..but this should be expected no matter where one works..

In this line of work especially, safety always takes precedent over production.. I worked for ExxonMobile for 3 yrs out of college then when we moved here I worked for Bayer/ "we changed ownership about 4 times. So I believe the current name is Kemira." for 5 yrs and now have been out at cooper river for the last Year and half. The job is good. I get paid well and dont do shit. But the safety stuff is a little out of hand. But you would be surprised how many idiots are out in the workforce that dont adhere to the most basic rules which end up putting them and others in situations that they should never have been in.

Matt if this doesnt work out. I can put you into contact with a good friend of mine who is a supervisor at BP. Or atleast get your foot in the door out there. If I still lived on IOP connector I would have taken the job at BP..I just dont want to drive that far again..lol


Thanks Billy, I will let you know how it goes. I really appreciate you filling me in on the test, now I know what I need to work on in order to increase my chances. I think I will do good, but what ever happens, happens. I am just pleased that I made it this far.

chrisheltra
02-23-2010, 08:09 PM
One thing that helped me years ago but I dont know it they offer it anymore but I took a OSHA safety coarse at TTC. Im not sure how much it was because my employer paid the bill but it was a very helpful coarse. The down side is it lasted quite a few weeks.

Matts94Z28
02-23-2010, 08:14 PM
That's definitely something to look into. I have OSHA, EPA, DOT and HAZMAT certifications per Bosch Mandates that are still good, so I hope that helps me out. I also have a folder full of certificates for:

Hazard Communication Standards, Personal Protective Equipment, Material Handling and Storage, Emergency Response and Spill Control, Fire Prevention and Safety, Electrical Safety Awareness, Run Off Water Pollutants, Lifting and Back Safety, Signs and Tags, Fire and Explosion Hazards, DOT1: Hazardous Materials Table, DOT2: Packaging and Labeling, DOT3: Shipping Papers, DOT4: Loading and Storage, Blood borne Pathogens, Ergonomics and Defensive Driving...

I think my eyes bled for an entire month.

chrisheltra
02-23-2010, 08:19 PM
So youve seen all the cheesy 80's safety videos?

Matts94Z28
02-23-2010, 08:22 PM
Oooooh yes... Gotta love the hairstyles, music and fake accidents.

DolSVT00
02-23-2010, 08:27 PM
Saftey is one thing, but overdoing it to the point where saftey is unsafe is just too much.

For anyone that has worked out at dupont, they know what I'm talikin about. Back in the 90's I was in a machine room at dupont, we were working on some water lines, pipefitting welding ect it was hot, and even hotter in the machine room, well apparently there was some light oil smoke from the operating room's pumps and they (dupont) made us wear full tyvek suits with resperators (the can style) along with all our welding/fitting gear. My fitter, a 65 year old healthy guy had a heat stroke that day in the machine room and never returned to work because it affected his brain somehow and parialized him.

They went back and tested the smoke later that week and confirmed that our exposure time and the slight ammount that was there wouldn't have had any effect on our health.............. But Saftey did.

Illusions
02-23-2010, 10:12 PM
Heat stroke does not cause paralysis a normal stroke being a blood clot or ruptured blood vessel in the brain causes a stroke. At 85 years old it was probably a natural health event. Strokes happen to healthy people too.

I've done a few projects for Dupont within the past few years. I've never experienced a strict safety program any worse than any other chemical plant. I've been in chemical plants for the past 34 years all over this country.

Safety rules are there to protect you from the idiots that you work around. The only reason there has to be a rule is because some idiot has no common sense and got hurt or caused someone else to get hurt. So Uncle Sam has to step in so you do not sue the company too bad.`This is why incidents are investigated and preventative measures are put in place. Hence another rule for us to live by. You may not agree with the rules but if you want to work there you have to live by them or go home.

gearmesh, inc.
02-24-2010, 12:45 AM
Safety rules are there to protect you from the idiots that you work around. The only reason there has to be a rule is because some idiot has no common sense and got hurt or caused someone else to get hurt. So Uncle Sam has to step in so you do not sue the company too bad.`This is why incidents are investigated and preventative measures are put in place. Hence another rule for us to live by. You may not agree with the rules but if you want to work there you have to live by them or go home.

If management at these large companies would actually hire folks with some common sense to start with, there wouldn't have to be so many extreme safety rules to protect the workforce from themselves. Hence, the nanny state workplace.

Management at most large companies are actually afraid to hire truly talented workers for fear that they will get outperformed by up and coming "subordinates". Their #1 priority is to make sure their own job stays secure because they know they themselves don't have any talents or qualifications of adequate worth to make a living somewhere else.

Sometimes an applicant actually has to "dumb" themselves down in the interview so as to not seem a threat to the limited intelligence of the one doing the interviewing.

Matts94Z28
02-24-2010, 01:31 AM
If management at these large companies would actually hire folks with some common sense to start with, there wouldn't have to be so many extreme safety rules to protect the workforce from themselves. Hence, the nanny state workplace.

Management at most large companies are actually afraid to hire truly talented workers for fear that they will get outperformed by up and coming "subordinates". Their #1 priority is to make sure their own job stays secure because they know they themselves don't have any talents or qualifications of adequate worth to make a living somewhere else.

Sometimes an applicant actually has to "dumb" themselves down in the interview so as to not seem a threat to the limited intelligence of the one doing the interviewing.

I deal with this every day! Well said.

Illusions
02-24-2010, 07:47 AM
I agree too right along with quota's. We no longer have the most qualified for the position we have the person that will satisfy the EEOC. Which in some cases is the most qualified if your lucky and in other cases, well it's not. Those are the ones we have to look out for unfortunately.