Get blown

[chrisheltra]

http://blogs.mustang50magazine.com/6640640/miscellaneous/23l-whipple-supercharger-kit-for-the-2011-50l-mustang-gt/index.html

[wade w]

So when are you getting one?

[MonteC]

600hp @ 7psi :shock:

Change out the rods then up the boost....

[chrisheltra]

600hp @ 7psi :shock:

Change out the rods then up the boost....

Yes the rods are a weak point but the real issue is that over 7psi at that compression (11:1) 93 octane cant suppress detonation anymore. That blower isn't even close to its efficiency range of 18-24+ psi.

[chrisheltra]

So when are you getting one?

Can I borrow some money? :razz:

[wade w]

Can I borrow some money? :razz:


Sure you can. Just not from me. I dont have any.

[MonteC]

yes the rods are a weak point but the real issue is that over 7psi at that compression (11:1) 93 octane cant suppress detonation anymore. That blower isn't even close to its efficiency range of 18-24+ psi.

race gas! Ftw!

[Carlrx7]

Meth!

[Audie1]

Meth!

That's what I use on the Buick........Works great.

[bambooi]

E85!

[Audie1]

E85 is good for moderate boost levels (especially with turbos where boost is adjustable). You will need bigger injectors, maybe bigger pump etc. E85 = 105 Octane. With a good meth injection setup and duel nozzels you are able to run much higher boost (with tune for meth injection). Only bad thing about methenol injection is that if you are running high boost and your meth pump quits.........well let's just say that it would not be pretty.......I've never had a pump fail on me though.

[bambooi]

I ran e85 with over 30 psi of boost on my evo! It was close to a 500AWHP setup. I had a meth setup on the car when I got it, but I removed it. E85 will definitely require about 30% bigger injectors and a bigger fuel pump. I did not want to worry about a meth pump failure. I know they make some sophisticated meth setups, but by the time you add in the cost of those failsafe systems you could get a daily e85 setup and not have to worry about a pump failure or running out of meth.

[Zacharyx]

where the new 5.0 is gonna shine is under the curve ( where races are won) with ability to adjust intake and exhaust cams independently, you will be able manipulate dynamic compression ( might be using the wrong word) by over lapping the cams higher in the RPM range

[FRDnemesis]

600hp @ 7psi :shock:

Change out the rods then up the boost....


Why are you guys worried about powdered rods and the magical 500hp rating that has been floating around for 15+ years?

LT1 cars were using them since 93 and I know guys including myself that pushed them to 740+hp year after year (5yrs) and I've never seen one break, personally. I would "guess" the powdered rod in the new mustang is probably somewhat even improved over the LT1 powedered rod.

I think as more and more of these cars make their way into the trenches, you will see the same reliability as the LT1 cars did from those rods.

[MonteC]

Why are you guys worried about powdered rods and the magical 500hp rating that has been floating around for 15+ years?

LT1 cars were using them since 93 and I know guys including myself that pushed them to 740+hp year after year (5yrs) and I've never seen one break, personally. I would "guess" the powdered rod in the new mustang is probably somewhat even improved over the LT1 powedered rod.

I think as more and more of these cars make their way into the trenches, you will see the same reliability as the LT1 cars did from those rods.

The diesel guys cant get over 500 or so with the powdered rods. Personally i have little faith or hope in powdered rods. :boohoo:

[DolSVT00]

Why are you guys worried about powdered rods and the magical 500hp rating that has been floating around for 15+ years?

LT1 cars were using them since 93 and I know guys including myself that pushed them to 740+hp year after year (5yrs) and I've never seen one break, personally. I would "guess" the powdered rod in the new mustang is probably somewhat even improved over the LT1 powedered rod.

I think as more and more of these cars make their way into the trenches, you will see the same reliability as the LT1 cars did from those rods.


Big diference is rod length and torque, powdered rods may not be all that bad, but the longer they are the worse they are.

Ford has alwayse done the long stroke small piston combo on mod motors even the 4.6's, the 5.0 uses the same rod length as the 4.6's so its a crap shoot if they break or not. Non-Cobra 4.6's and N/A 5.4's also suffered from poor piston top to compression ring thickness that were prone to destruction by superheated air charge temps from boost and light spark knock or detonation.

[Derek]

what about bigger cc heads.

[Matts94Z28]

put an LS1 in it...

[Shane361]

What about..LEAVE IT ALONE:razz: Basic bolts ons....put the money into your truck:bigthumb:

[DolSVT00]

What about..LEAVE IT ALONE:razz: Basic bolts ons....put the money into your truck:bigthumb:

His truck's done, for what he has now its 1000's for a half a 10th. Pretty much why he has a 5.0. Anymore to the truck and it will start to become unreliable and erogonomicly/comfortably unstreetable.

[chrisheltra]

his truck's done, for what he has now its 1000's for a half a 10th. Pretty much why he has a 5.0. Anymore to the truck and it will start to become unreliable and erogonomicly/comfortably unstreetable.

w3rd

[FRDnemesis]

Big diference is rod length and torque, powdered rods may not be all that bad, but the longer they are the worse they are.

Ford has alwayse done the long stroke small piston combo on mod motors even the 4.6's, the 5.0 uses the same rod length as the 4.6's so its a crap shoot if they break or not. Non-Cobra 4.6's and N/A 5.4's also suffered from poor piston top to compression ring thickness that were prone to destruction by superheated air charge temps from boost and light spark knock or detonation.


What is the rod length that the 5.0 is using?

[LXtasy]

Did I just read reliable and LT1 in the same sentence? :bs:

Put a fogger on the new 5.0 and ride out than since it has 11:1 compression :D

[FRDnemesis]

Did I just read reliable and LT1 in the same sentence? :bs:



Anything NOT built by GOLEN should last forever when it comes to LT1's. :mrgreen: