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Matts94Z28
07-13-2010, 10:36 PM
If you had to decided between a Business Oriented education or a Computer Science oriented education, which would you choose?

BigdaddyDupree
07-13-2010, 10:39 PM
sister is making bank as an IT person at santee cooper went to a private college four years and got a job in a week making like 24-25 an hour

chrisheltra
07-13-2010, 10:42 PM
sister is making bank as an IT person at santee cooper went to a private college four years and got a job in a week making like 24-25 an hour

You don't have to go to college for four years to make that kind of money. Trust me. Although it doesn't hurt.

MonteC
07-13-2010, 10:44 PM
business i guess. neither sounds fun. I just do the business stuff because i have too, most of the time i push that stuff on to Tara, then i go back to the shop and throw some wrenches around.

Matts94Z28
07-13-2010, 10:46 PM
I'm stuck between the following:

Business Administration B.S. w/ a concentration on Global Logistics and Transportation

Computer Science B.A.

Computer Information Systems B.S.

Business is something that has always fascinated me, but it seems IT/Computer Science is the route to go. Everywhere you look, you can find openings for IT professionals. I would like to think I am the business type at heart, but it takes money to make money. I never thought I would struggle with this decision as much as I have over the last few weeks... but I guess 15k for tuition will do that to you.

BigdaddyDupree
07-13-2010, 10:48 PM
well i know that. but just getting on. and now she is going for her NBA. and will make more. and santee cooper is a hella place to work

Matts94Z28
07-13-2010, 10:49 PM
Santee pays pretty good for the area... Their benefits package is where it's at though. I am always on the look out for something with them.

minytrker
07-13-2010, 11:15 PM
With computer science you should always be to find some kind of work or work from home. There are alot of ways to make extra money with computer science. With a business degree you will probably always be working for someone else. Also atleast here 15 mins from Texas A&M it seems everyone has a business degree so its not the best degree when you have 100's of grads looking for jobs.

Matts94Z28
07-13-2010, 11:31 PM
Thanks for the input, Lorenz. I also see that being an issue as business is the most common degree for people who don't know what they want to do. I figured with Charleston having all major modes of transportation in one area, the Logistics and Transportation could separate me from that category... if that makes since.

I'm open to all opinions, especially from the guys who own their own business's. I am very determined and driven, It's just hard to channel that energy into one track.

BigdaddyDupree
07-13-2010, 11:32 PM
we need a driver at oreillys. hmm

Matts94Z28
07-13-2010, 11:40 PM
we need a driver at oreillys. hmm

I'm going to need at least 38k a year plus commission. If you can swing that SIGN ME UP!:hide:

blubyu87gt
07-14-2010, 12:06 AM
Personally I would (and did) go into the communications/IT field. Started as a base sales rep and used self interest to expand my knowledge and make well more then you quoted. I haven't had to do much as far as actual schooling goes as the company provided a ton of training but that's with my personal experience.

With as fast as wireless communications is expanding you can't go wrong with it.

Matts94Z28
07-14-2010, 12:25 AM
I had a chance to work for the Verizon call center back in 04' and turned it down. That was not one of my wisest choices...

jmd
07-14-2010, 05:23 AM
computer work is the future. go that direction.

adamsgto2004
07-14-2010, 05:29 AM
Computer stuff will never go away so thats the place to be, at least the people in the military get out that where they go usually.

MonteC
07-14-2010, 07:03 AM
What do you plan on doing matt? What do you want to do?

1iron
07-14-2010, 07:21 AM
well i know that. but just getting on. and now she is going for her NBA. and will make more. and santee cooper is a hella place to work

That's great. The NBA pays very well. Some of those guys make millions a year on the bench.

ElecTech
07-14-2010, 07:43 AM
That's great. The NBA pays very well. Some of those guys make millions a year on the bench.

Nicely done sir.

Matt,

The biggest thing I always find for myself is to not be afraid to make a decision because that can lead to inaction. I Think either way will be lucrative, if you are a hard worker with a good attitude, and just because you get into a "career" does not mean you are locked into it forever. It is mearly a path that could lead to other paths. I have more I could say on this, but I don't really like to type that much.

LadyInRed
07-14-2010, 08:31 AM
That's great. The NBA pays very well. Some of those guys make millions a year on the bench.

:lol: That's what I was thinking.

My friend's husband did IT at Santee Cooper for awhile, now he works at C of C in the IT department. Got/gets paid well.

It's all about what you see yourself wanting to do. Like I personally could never see myself doing computer work, even though it's a growing field that won't be going away. But if you enjoy doing it and think it's the type of work you want to do, then go for it. You don't want to spend a bunch of money then be miserable in the field.

My brother is going for a business degree - because he doesn't know what he wants to do with it. It's nice for the flexibility when it comes to doing something, but since it's so common there are a lot of people out there with it for that reason.

I hope I continue to enjoy what I'm going for, and that the upper level chemistry courses don't scare me off :lol:

chrisheltra
07-14-2010, 08:36 AM
Business degree = Underwater basket weaving

http://usliberty.info/usliberty/image.axd?picture=2009%2F4%2Funderwater-basket-weaving-degree.jpg

Would you like me to chop your name on it?:poke: lol

:joke:

Blue Skunk
07-14-2010, 08:52 AM
I personally would go with the Computer Science B.S. over the Business Admin B.S. You will have an edge over the other 9 Billion people going to college for the Business degree. Not knocking the Business degree, the Computer degree just offers more to anyone looking to hire a person and give you an edge in the job market. It also gives you more options in the career field. My 0.2 cents.

chrisheltra
07-14-2010, 08:54 AM
Why not Major in computer science and minor in business? Or the other way around.

Blue Skunk
07-14-2010, 08:57 AM
^ Good suggestion if having a business degree is a true desire.

Slowleen
07-14-2010, 09:25 AM
I have a bachelor's in business...in hindsight, it offers you alot of info if you essentially want to run retail or your own business. If you hate retail, or don't plan to do your own thing, then i'd look elsewhere. I really wish I would of done a 2+2 engineering w/ trident/clemson, or something along those lines. You obviously dont need a business degree to do retail, ect, as i've seen way to many dumb people in charge...but thats essentially where it will take you. I definitely didnt need one to run my own Advance Auto store...so if anyone needs parts, I'm all the way out in walterboro lol

blubyu87gt
07-14-2010, 09:28 AM
Under water basket weaver..... I think I have found my calling... My life thus far now seems so wasted!

1 Slow Z
07-14-2010, 10:39 AM
Some type of cpu degree would be the best route IMO. I know a lot of guys back home with business degrees that are working as bank tellers, grocery store managers, and a kitchen manager. I know if you want to make the type on money you stated in Charleston your best bet is Spawar as gov't or contractor. They are always looking for either engineering degree's or a cpu degree's.

LXtasy
07-14-2010, 05:11 PM
Computer stuff. IMO Business degree is a waste of time and money unless you needed it to OWN a company. But than again I will also say that if you are in the pursuit to run a company (and have your degree) you should have some type of knowledge of the company you are buying/ about to start up.

Illusions
07-14-2010, 05:28 PM
Business degrees are a good to minor is as a second degree. For example: Engineering degree or accounting you can use the business degree to help you run the business if you decide to open your own office or to work your way up into management. Business degrees are good majors if you want to sell insurance, or own a used car lot.. we all know we need more of those in town. but this is jmo and you know how opinions are. :)


I hope I continue to enjoy what I'm going for, and that the upper level chemistry courses don't scare me off :lol:

I should get you in touch with my middle son. He is a chem major at C of C and has done summer research for the chemistry dept every summer. He can give you a heads up on what to expect.

ok back on topic...lol

chrisheltra
07-14-2010, 05:46 PM
Ah shoont boi look at Sr. trying to set Robs wife up with his son!!!!

J/K lol

Back on topic now.....

Illusions
07-14-2010, 05:50 PM
Ah shoont boi look at Sr. trying to set Robs wife up with his son!!!!

J/K lol

Back on topic now.....

:fial: sorry i just felt that this was a good place to insert this pic... :hysterical:

Mustangscotty
07-14-2010, 06:05 PM
Business Administration B.S. w/ a concentration on Global Logistics and Transportation and get Microsoft certified (its easy and appealing to HR people).

Another 11 classes and you'll likely have a Masters in the same field or another bachelors in something else.

Bus. Admin could put you at the helm of a company or senior management position at some point in time. IT is lucrative and growing, if landing a great job is your goal then go with IT. If your motivation involves lengthy goals of running a corporation then a degree in Business Admin may be the way to go. In any case, just stay in school. Even if it means taking only one class a quarter.

04ctd
07-14-2010, 06:12 PM
i would say the Business degree.

everyone where i work says you just go out and hire young kids if you want computer work done.

we have a shop full of them. just hire them,
when they get senior enough to want some real money, and they find out they have hit a ceiling, they wander off.

and you hire more kids at starting wages.

chris may can expand on that, or say i am wrong, i think he is the exception to the rule, in that he has risen to the top (judging by his car collection). but i don't know how stable his career progression has been.

management guys just keep moving up/over/around somehow, you just can't hold back a guy who has DRIVE and COMMON SENSE. the degree gets him in the door, then he excels on his own merit.

a BS is pretty much an entry level way to get in the door with a good starting wage, but a MS in Engineering is the big ticket now.

i am working on a Masters right now. it's a lot tuffer than i thought.
i sent some my homework to Hal's C of C son, and he told me i was on my own :/
it's TUFF.

1 Slow Z
07-14-2010, 06:45 PM
I actually switched my major today from International Business to Electrical Engineering. Business degrees seem to be a dime a dozen now a days.

Mustangscotty
07-14-2010, 06:52 PM
A lot has to do with "what is in demand in your area". Then switching your major is likely a great move to more $$$.

Maybe some day we'll all be professors driving our 1000hp daily drivers to work :)

formgen
07-15-2010, 08:20 AM
If your just starting school and can handle it an EE degree is your meal ticket, or go for the CS degree. We have interns here, at SPAWAR, that make 25-35 and hour. That's interns, fresh out of college. When you finish the internship, 3 yrs, you are promoted to regular employee with a nice raise to go with it. You will also be getting yearly raises and/or bonuses while in the intern program as well.

Try to get/keep a good GPA, your salary here is based on your GPA if your an intern/new hire.

You would not believe how many employees here are making well over 6 figures :bigthumb:

Matts94Z28
07-15-2010, 09:43 AM
Thanks for the input guys! I got see my advisor on the 19th and I think I will be going with computer science as of now.

Illusions
07-15-2010, 10:07 AM
i sent some my homework to Hal's C of C son, and he told me i was on my own :/
it's TUFF.

NO he told you he didn't do statistics. It wasn't calculus as you told me. But he did however give you the name of another tutor that was good in the area you needed help in. It's not his fault if you didn't call said other qualified tutor.

Please get the story straight and not say Chris left you high and dry. He would have helped you if he could.

Ok back on topic!

04ctd
07-15-2010, 01:36 PM
ah, the other tutors looked at it, and said it was a whole mix of math disciplines, not one in general. it was TUFF.


#8 [20 pts] A company is planning a plant expansion. They can build a large or small plant.
The payoffs for the plant depend on the level of consumer demand for the company's products.

The company believes that there is an
72% chance that demand for their products will be high and a
28% chance that it will be low.

The company can pay a market research firm to survey consumer attitudes the company's products. There is a
76% chance that the customers will like the products and a
24% chance that they won't.


The payoff matrix and costs of the two plants are listed below. The company believes that if the survey is favorable there is an

87% chance that demand will be high for the products. If the survey is unfavorable there is only a
25% chance that the demand will be high.

The decision tree for the problem when the survey is performed before the plant size decision is made is provided below.




a. [10 pts] Compute the EMV.
71.0600

b. [10 pts] Compute the EVSI.
66.7600

c. [5 pts] What is the expected value of imperfect information?
-4.3000

Mustangscotty
07-16-2010, 05:19 AM
If your just starting school and can handle it an EE degree is your meal ticket, or go for the CS degree. We have interns here, at SPAWAR, that make 25-35 and hour. That's interns, fresh out of college. When you finish the internship, 3 yrs, you are promoted to regular employee with a nice raise to go with it. You will also be getting yearly raises and/or bonuses while in the intern program as well.

Try to get/keep a good GPA, your salary here is based on your GPA if your an intern/new hire.

You would not believe how many employees here are making well over 6 figures :bigthumb:

Six figures is a "nice calling" to a great career ! 25-35 and hr for an intern ! Hellzyes!

Matts94Z28
07-20-2010, 09:26 PM
Well as of now I will be getting a B.A. in Computer Science. If I decided its not my thing I could still change to Business Admin. with a minor in Computer Science.