If ya can't beat em........

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Join em. Well I traded Paul Wall the Lightning and the Mustang for his 06 Trailblazer SS. Been hot for a TBSS for a while now and this one has a bunch of the work I would have to do anyway already done. Anyway I'm pretty happy with the dealio. Flame on lol.

[slowgreen99]

Join em. Well I traded Paul Wall the Lightning and the Mustang for his 06 Trailblazer SS. Been hot for a TBSS for a while now and this one has a bunch of the work I would have to do anyway already done. Anyway I'm pretty happy with the dealio. Flame on lol.

hells yea! That means Paul is gonna try to tell me that im gonna get runned over by HIS car! Phuck

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Oh and I owe you a 4# lower and a belt Randy. I will square with you.

[slowgreen99]

Oh and I owe you a 4# lower and a belt Randy. I will square with you.

whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa! Say it aint so...you borrowed parts that werent yours!?!?!?! OH lawdzz

[ShawnBoyMoody]

hells yea! That means Paul is gonna try to tell me that im gonna get runned over by HIS car! Phuck

Your glasses are so strong you can see the future lol.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa! Say it aint so...you borrowed parts that werent yours!?!?!?! OH lawdzz

Don't start. Lol

[slowgreen99]

Your glasses are so strong you can see the future lol.

Theyre a little scratched. But I do know the outcome :D

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Lol well it ain't my problem no more. Free at last.

[bambooi]

wow. can my little jeep get the break and back tirein the 1/8th? It's all stock. Time to update your sig.

[MonteC]

I heard that tbss was only running in the 9's last sunday.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Its slowwwwwww.

[ForceFed4g63]

He was talking all that mad shit up and down calling out everybody and it runs 9's...?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

He was talking all that mad shit up and down calling out everybody and it runs 9's...?

:mrgreen:

[blkscls1z]

Congrats. At least it just changed hands and isn't another new black TBSS around here.

[Carlrx7]

9.3xx all day!!

[Bradleyrj]

Well at least you got something else that stroker kits and superchargers are available for.

[cmd]

He was talking all that mad shit up and down calling out everybody and it runs 9's...?

It ran a 9.14 when I had it... I dont see haw a cam slows it down

[Matts94Z28]

A stock pcm will do that.

[ElecTech]

Shawn, let us know when you are ready for a shortblock in that thing. It can't be too much longer after what it's gone through.

[ElecTech]

A Colin will do that.

Fixed.

[Matts94Z28]

I took a Colin earlier.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Shawn, let us know when you are ready for a shortblock in that thing. It can't be too much longer after what it's gone through.

It oughta be fine its only been N/A and nitrous injected. It still has to be boasted before it blows, it's a LS remember lol.

[LXtasy]

Dang, I was hoping for our race. I didn't scare you off did I? If so that is cool. I will welcome you with open arms my fellow ls brotha lol

[jmd]

welcome to the dark side.

[Derek]

Colin shawn n said he drove it again not long ago and the thing was real sluggish he thinks they might have changed the tune before paul got it.

Shawnboy you are kind of inluck jp and jamie have the credits to tune it. And the other shawn still has the electric fans and cold air intake.

[paul wall]

Oh shawn boy just had to get in the paul wall trading game huh lol

[DolSVT00]

Oh and I owe you a 4# lower and a belt Randy. I will square with you.

Yes you do...... This is also why I hesitated on the blower.......

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Yes you do...... This is also why I hesitated on the blower.......

Well you should have made me aware of your concerns. Obviously I would not have traded the truck away with your blower on there. Actually your obvious hesitation is what prompted me to move forward with the trade. I was a little disappointed honestly. I will order you a brand new 4# and belt by close of business today sir.

[PapaBear]

I have an IEATSRT8 intake for it aswell if you need.......with IAT relocation harness.

[Whaler]

You got rid of the Lightning and the red Mustang? You are nuts. What about your promise to outrun Bad Bob? You don't have the patience to keep something long enough to make it run to it's potential.

[slowgreen99]

You got rid of the Lightning and the red Mustang? You are nuts. What about your promise to outrun Bad Bob? You don't have the patience to keep something long enough to make it run to it's potential.

Bad Bob would rather be on a boat anyway. That slow bitch. :eek2:

[bwelch]

Well honestly to out run bad bob he would have to change his whole setup. Might as well buy another $500 notch 4cylinder roller and start fresh. Lightnings are nice trucks but they lack on the room. Shawn usually has the wife and kids with him so the tbss is much better for him.

[Whaler]

Bad Bob would rather be on a boat anyway. That slow bitch. :eek2:

There you go. Bust that @$$. He bought a boat? Does he still have the Mustang?

[Whaler]

Well honestly to out run bad bob he would have to change his whole setup. Might as well buy another $500 notch 4cylinder roller and start fresh. Lightnings are nice trucks but they lack on the room. Shawn usually has the wife and kids with him so the tbss is much better for him.

Yeah, the TBSS is really nice.

[slowgreen99]

There you go. Bust that @$$. He bought a boat? Does he still have the Mustang?

Nah, im just kiddin. He's waaay faster than my junk will probably ever be, and I have a built motor. :boohoo:

[Matts94Z28]

I hate to see the Mustang go, but I agree with your reasons. It is a nice truck and a good platform to start with.

I know where you can get a nice z28 roller to start fresh with when you are ready.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

You got rid of the Lightning and the red Mustang? You are nuts. You don't have the patience to keep something long enough to make it run to it's potential.

I don't know that you know me well enough to make that statement. I have the patience, what I don't have is the disposable income to make it happen right now. Especially trying to build a Lightning at the same time. Now I'll only have one thing to concentrate on.

As far as me being nuts for trading both I disagree. The truck is barely worth 10 thousand and the car might bring 5k. The Trailblazer is 16-17000 dollar truck all day long.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Well honestly to out run bad bob he would have to change his whole setup. Might as well buy another $500 notch 4cylinder roller and start fresh. Lightnings are nice trucks but they lack on the room. Shawn usually has the wife and kids with him so the tbss is much better for him.

Exactly.

[bwelch]

There is a 93 coupe roller on grudgeracer for $500. No title though.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

By the way as far as the Mustang not running to its potential, I think I exceeded its potential! 6.60s on a little 306 ain't nuthin to be ashamed of.

[Blue Skunk]

Join em. Well I traded Paul Wall the Lightning and the Mustang for his 06 Trailblazer SS. Been hot for a TBSS for a while now and this one has a bunch of the work I would have to do anyway already done. Anyway I'm pretty happy with the dealio. Flame on lol.

Congrats on the new ride. :bigthumb:

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Congrats on the new ride. :bigthumb:

Thank-you sir!

[Whaler]

I don't know that you know me well enough to make that statement. I have the patience, what I don't have is the disposable income to make it happen right now. Especially trying to build a Lightning at the same time. Now I'll only have one thing to concentrate on.

As far as me being nuts for trading both I disagree. The truck is barely worth 10 thousand and the car might bring 5k. The Trailblazer is 16-17000 dollar truck all day long.

I wasn't speaking towards the monetary part of the deal. I thought the Lightning was a daily vehicle, not a race truck.

By the way as far as the Mustang not running to its potential, I think I exceeded its potential! 6.60s on a little 306 ain't nuthin to be ashamed of.

I agree, you misunderstood my use of "potential" statement. You have a "331 in the oven" and I was looking forward to seeing what you could finish doing with the car. There was no hostility meant by my statement. I just met you earlier this year, and you've been through how many vehicles?

:poke: I still think you're nuts, and it has nothing to do with your transaction. :poke::cheers and yes, the TBSS is a very nice SUV. Always liked them.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

I have had quite a few. The Lightning was not a race truck but I also can't leave anything alone. My daily driver is a 1995 Ford ranger with a 2.3 and cold AC. I plan to turbo it too. Stock is boring!

[BigdaddyDupree]

i woulda never got rid of the mustang but if your happy im cool with it.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

i woulda never got rid of the mustang but if your happy im cool with it.

Hell I wanted your dime but you wasn't having it!

[BigdaddyDupree]

yeah im considering getting rid of it all now. the trailers, dually, s10, and parts. might just buy me a fun DD and get out of the game for a while. i need to get my own place

[ShawnBoyMoody]

yeah im considering getting rid of it all now. the trailers, dually, s10, and parts. might just buy me a fun DD and get out of the game for a while. i need to get my own place

I hear you brother.

[BigdaddyDupree]

ill get back in sooner or later but im thinking a cobra might be a fun DD for the meantime.

[cliff-1972]

Dude wtf!!!I just talked to you a few days ago and now this????Well at least it was a good swap for you and you are happy.Can I get my bottle back?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Dude wtf!!!I just talked to you a few days ago and now this????Well at least it was a good swap for you and you are happy.Can I get my bottle back?

Yessir. It's in the garage. I'll get it topped off next week and get it back to you.

[Ct.TOPGUN]

Mustangs are a dime a dozen. So losing/gaining one is no big deal in most cases. But getting out of a Lightning for a TBSS??? Ouch!!!

Jim

[Illusions]

welcome to the dark side! good to see you got one of the rare Black TBSS's ;)

[chrisheltra]

Well you should have made me aware of your concerns. Obviously I would not have traded the truck away with your blower on there. Actually your obvious hesitation is what prompted me to move forward with the trade. I was a little disappointed honestly. I will order you a brand new 4# and belt by close of business today sir.

You traded your L for the TBSS because Randy didnt give you his free parts fast enough? That'll show him. :hysterical:

I wish you good luck with the TBSS. They are nice rides. :cheers

[ShawnBoyMoody]

You traded your L for the TBSS because Randy didnt give you his free parts fast enough? That'll show him. :hysterical

No reason to be an ass Christopher.

[chrisheltra]

No reason to be an ass Christopher.

Love ya brother

[Shibby]

Would have been cheaper in the long run to put a turbo ls in the notch. The fastest tbss runs low 9s with ALOT of money behind it

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Love ya brother

And I you.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Would have been cheaper in the long run to put a turbo ls in the notch. The fastest tbss runs low 9s with ALOT of money behind it

Not interested in building a race truck sir.

[Shibby]

Obviously. The tbss will definitely be a VERY fun dd or weekend driver. Nice choice

[slowgreen99]

Dude wtf!!!I just talked to you a few days ago and now this????Well at least it was a good swap for you and you are happy.Can I get my bottle back?

ARE YOU SERIOUS! I wont go into detail but the truth shall set you free my friend! Wowzer.

[Slow_Esuvee]

good luck with your new ride ... ive read where 06 has had main bearing problems ..... mine just hit 100k miles and has a lifter that keeps leaking down ... o yeah i got a letter from gm last week offering to pay 50% or labour an parts to fix the faulty fuel level sensor ... it will read low when u fill up an after a while go to full .... Ive got my moneys worth out of it and the fun hasnt even started yet !!!!:bigthumb: ive spun mine a lil over 7500

[cliff-1972]

Slowgreen,please explain why you quoted me??

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Slowgreen,please explain why you quoted me??

Because you louded me out about the nitrous tank. I'm not allowed to borrow anything.

[MonteC]

Because you louded me out about the nitrous tank. I'm not allowed to borrow anything.


Can I get those condoms back you borrowed?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Can I get those condoms back you borrowed?

They are used but yes.:hysterical:

[ShawnBoyMoody]

good luck with your new ride ... ive read where 06 has had main bearing problems ..... mine just hit 100k miles and has a lifter that keeps leaking down ... o yeah i got a letter from gm last week offering to pay 50% or labour an parts to fix the faulty fuel level sensor ... it will read low when u fill up an after a while go to full .... Ive got my moneys worth out of it and the fun hasnt even started yet !!!!:bigthumb: ive spun mine a lil over 7500

Thanks. I'm looking forward to the project. Had any trans issues with yours?

[cliff-1972]

Dude,that's what "Real" friends are for.I try to look out for a friend.I just might need the bottle on the diesel if I make it to John's dyno day:mrgreen:

[ShawnBoyMoody]

All good brotha! I'm looking forward to seeing all my old trucks spin the rollers lol. And seeing yours go as well!

[cmd]

All good brotha! I'm looking forward to seeing all my old trucks spin the rollers lol. And seeing yours go as well!

Mine could be your new old truck.... just sayin:poke:

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Mine could be your new old truck.... just sayin:poke:

I hear you driva!:bigthumb: You gonna dyno it at Diesel Johns? I wanna see what it puts down.

My prediction? 425 HP and 1000 ft lbs.

[cmd]

I hear you driva!:bigthumb: You gonna dyno it at Diesel Johns? I wanna see what it puts down.

My prediction? 425 HP and 1000 ft lbs.

Yes sir it's goin.... I was thinkin the tq would be a tad higher 1050-1150???ish

[Mr. Camaro]

when is the dyno day?

[Matts94Z28]

Saturday, September 24 ?À 9:00am - 12:00pm

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Yes sir it's goin.... I was thinkin the tq would be a tad higher 1050-1150???ish

Might do 1050 ish ish if its cool out.

[Derek]

good luck with your new ride ... ive read where 06 has had main bearing problems ..... mine just hit 100k miles and has a lifter that keeps leaking down ... o yeah i got a letter from gm last week offering to pay 50% or labour an parts to fix the faulty fuel level sensor ... it will read low when u fill up an after a while go to full .... Ive got my moneys worth out of it and the fun hasnt even started yet !!!!:bigthumb: ive spun mine a lil over 7500

You know I don't remember what year mota got put in there but I know it had real low miles I have the original 6.0 in my garage as well as the original drive train. And Gearmesh built the tranny so I think you will be worry free for awhile. You got a hell of a truck there shawn I'm still kicking myself for not buying it when I had the chance.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

You know I don't remember what year mota got put in there but I know it had real low miles I have the original 6.0 in my garage as well as the original drive train. And Gearmesh built the tranny so I think you will be worry free for awhile. You got a hell of a truck there shawn I'm still kicking myself for not buying it when I had the chance.

Ugh well "not so much" on the tranny. It's done. But hey thanks for the compliment tho! I really like it. I'd love to talk to you about the history of the truck if you get a spare minute, 870-0408 Thanks, Shawn

[BigdaddyDupree]

Tranny is messed up already?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Tranny is messed up already?

Yep. FML.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Apparently in all GM's infinite wisdom they said ,"Hey lets build this SUV that weighs 5500 lbs put a 390 HP LS2 in it and lets use the SAME 4L60E that we put in the 320 hp 3500 lb Camaro. It'll be AWESOME."

Um yeah. No.

[BigdaddyDupree]

Thought that was a built trans?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Thought that was a built trans?

Um yeah. No. From what I'm reading there is no such thing as a "built" 4L65E. Apparently its a ticking time bomb at any power level over stock in this application and the only REAL fix is a 4L80E swap. Thats probably the direction I'm gonna go.

[jmd]

Um yeah. No. From what I'm reading there is no such thing as a "built" 4L65E. Apparently its a ticking time bomb at any power level over stock in this application and the only REAL fix is a 4L80E swap. Thats probably the direction I'm gonna go.

pcm for less makes a plug and play harness for a 4l80E swap from what i hear.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

pcm for less makes a plug and play harness for a 4l80E swap from what i hear.

Yessir, been looking at that.:bigthumb:

[BigdaddyDupree]

Ask Neal and gerald about that plug n play kit lol

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Ask Neal and gerald about that plug n play kit lol

Yeah I know they had issues but I think they got em sorted out. There are a bunch of 4L80E swapped TBSS's running around. Oh and thats Gerald with a CAPITAL G LMAO!

[jmd]

the travis who runs the 8 sec 1/4 mile silver gto runs it and has had no problems.

[gearmesh, inc.]

Um yeah. No. From what I'm reading there is no such thing as a "built" 4L65E. Apparently its a ticking time bomb at any power level over stock in this application and the only REAL fix is a 4L80E swap. Thats probably the direction I'm gonna go.

That TBSS has had a history of external electrical issues regarding transmission controls. Intermittently, out of the blue, the PRNDL status in the instrument cluster will fly from Drive to Park while you are still rolling down the road. The body control module runs the instrument cluster and it is cycling the door locks when it acts up. When it acts up, the TCM goes into limp mode because it is still reading a road speed and seeing a Park, Reverse, or whatever signal from the manual switch circuit. Limp mode isn't so bad by itself, but when the trans is manual shifted while in limp mode, damage gets done to various friction elements inside. GM didn't think thoroughly enough when designing this trans to avoid gear conflict issues when manual shifting in limp mode. When everything is working right, a built 4L70E that comes in these trucks can handle most anything you can throw at it on pump gas.

Supposedly, the external gear status switch has been changed out along with a donor TCM and the problem still persists. About the only thing left to consider is a bad ground or harness issue. The trouble is, it is so damn intermittent it's hard to put a solid finger on the culprit.

At this point, swapping to a 4L80E is going to give you issues, too, if the external electrical problem isn't fixed. The 4L80E adapter harness for the Trailblazer is only about 6 inches long, so all of the existing harness on the truck will be passing all the signals for a 4L80E, too. Once the issue with the PRNDL indicator circuit gets found and fixed, the original 4L70E that comes with the truck will survive everything you can throw at it with pump gas up to around 600hp or even a little more.

[1998ta__1991rs]

That TBSS has had a history of external electrical issues regarding transmission controls. Intermittently, out of the blue, the PRNDL status in the instrument cluster will fly from Drive to Park while you are still rolling down the road. The body control module runs the instrument cluster and it is cycling the door locks when it acts up. When it acts up, the TCM goes into limp mode because it is still reading a road speed and seeing a Park, Reverse, or whatever signal from the manual switch circuit. Limp mode isn't so bad by itself, but when the trans is manual shifted while in limp mode, damage gets done to various friction elements inside. GM didn't think thoroughly enough when designing this trans to avoid gear conflict issues when manual shifting in limp mode. When everything is working right, a built 4L70E that comes in these trucks can handle most anything you can throw at it on pump gas.

Supposedly, the external gear status switch has been changed out along with a donor TCM and the problem still persists. About the only thing left to consider is a bad ground or harness issue. The trouble is, it is so damn intermittent it's hard to put a solid finger on the culprit.

At this point, swapping to a 4L80E is going to give you issues, too, if the external electrical problem isn't fixed. The 4L80E adapter harness for the Trailblazer is only about 6 inches long, so all of the existing harness on the truck will be passing all the signals for a 4L80E, too. Once the issue with the PRNDL indicator circuit gets found and fixed, the original 4L70E that comes with the truck will survive everything you can throw at it with pump gas up to around 600hp or even a little more.

that's what he thought from the get go. only problem is now the transmission fluid is the color of motor oil

[gearmesh, inc.]

Yeah I know they had issues but I think they got em sorted out. There are a bunch of 4L80E swapped TBSS's running around. Oh and thats Gerald with a CAPITAL G LMAO!

The swap kit that Neal got ended up having a misprogrammed TCM in the kit. It was shifting all the way up to 4th gear just rolling up to 10mph in the yard.

What I believe happened with the original TCM from the swap kit is the pulses per revolution parameter for the input shaft speed sensor wasn't changed to work with the 4L80E. The 4L70E uses less than about 20 teeth per revolution, while the 4L80E uses a whole lot more. If the TCM thinks the input shaft is spinning very fast via a high rate of pulses from the input shaft speed sensor, it will upshift the trans very early. A correctly programmed TCM from the swap kit manufacturer solved the early shift issue.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

that's what he thought from the get go. only problem is now the transmission fluid is the color of motor oil

This^^^^^ The color of motor oil and the smell of a forest fire!

[ShawnBoyMoody]

the travis who runs the 8 sec 1/4 mile silver gto runs it and has had no problems.

In a GTO. Strap another 1000 pounds and AWD to it and the tranny is being taxed to its limit. Dont take my word for it go to tbssowners.com and look around. Every other thread is "help my tranny died today".

[1998ta__1991rs]

just put a th400 in it

[1998ta__1991rs]

with a gear vendors overdirve

[ShawnBoyMoody]

I thought about it!

[Carlrx7]

Gerald,,how much would one of them 600 hp tranny's cost me for my tbss?

[jmd]

In a GTO. Strap another 1000 pounds and AWD to it and the tranny is being taxed to its limit. Dont take my word for it go to tbssowners.com and look around. Every other thread is "help my tranny died today".

true. oh, buy the way he running 1100 rwhp on the trans in a 4,000 pound car.

[Slow_Esuvee]

Thanks. I'm looking forward to the project. Had any trans issues with yours?


no but mines RWD they say the awd are harder on transmissions .... sometimes i wish i had ordered the awd but i like doing burnouts

... yours got a cam ? pcm for less tune ?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

no but mines RWD they say the awd are harder on transmissions .... sometimes i wish i had ordered the awd but i like doing burnouts

... yours got a cam ? pcm for less tune ?

It does have a cam. God knows whos tune is in it right now.

[Slow_Esuvee]

I got the small rob cam from pcm for less but havent installed it yet

[MonteC]

true. oh, buy the way he running 1100 rwhp on the trans in a 4,000 pound car.

And im sure hes got BIG money in that transmission.

[Slow_Esuvee]

you get what you pay for ..... most of the time .... if mine go's 4l80 all the way .... 4l80 supose to be the electronic overdrive 400

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Gerald how in depth of a build did you do on this tranny? Any upgraded parts, or just a stock rebuild?

[gearmesh, inc.]

Gerald,,how much would one of them 600 hp tranny's cost me for my tbss?

Sent you a PM.

[gearmesh, inc.]

Gerald how in depth of a build did you do on this tranny? Any upgraded parts, or just a stock rebuild?

It's got all the hard parts stuff to handle 600hp in it. It's just that manual shifting in limp mode and who knows what TCM substitutions for diagnostic purposes have been done to it so far have done the frictions and 2-4 band in. Parts-wise, it shouldn't cost near as much as when it was originally built since we are hopefully just expecting soft parts damage at this point. The drum the 2-4 band rides on is hopefully the only hard part that may need replacing ($100). After going for a ride with Paul the other week, I'm pretty sure the rivets of the band have already dug into the drum by now.

[Slow_Esuvee]

600hp wouldnt handel mine .... why i saild 6l80

[gearmesh, inc.]

you get what you pay for ..... most of the time .... if mine go's 4l80 all the way .... 4l80 supose to be the electronic overdrive 400

Something to think about between the 4L70E and the 4L80E is the first gear ratio. That heavy TBSS may be just right with the 3.06 first gear ratio of the 4l70e vs. the 2.48 first gear of the 4L80E.

4l60e ------------- 4l80e

1st-3.059:1 --------- 2.482:1
2nd-1.625:1--------- 1.482:1
3rd-1.000:1 --------- 1.000:1
4th-0.696:1 --------- 0.750:1


On the other hand, if you have wheelie problems launching your TBSS, the 4L80E first gear will help tone that little nuisance down. :hysterical:

[gearmesh, inc.]

600hp wouldnt handel mine .... why i saild 6l80

I would comfortably rate a built 4L65E/4L70E with a good transmission tune to 600hp and on an experimental basis to 700-750hp. This is about all the factory yoke size on the driveshaft is going to handle if you can stick that much power out the hole. I have been keeping close tabs on one of my 4L65E experiments that I feel pretty sure has a conservative 400hp on motor with a 300 shot of naws right out the gate. It's been going strong for about a year now and is still taking a regular beating. [fingers crossed]

If you got the nads to go higher in power than that, the 4L80E is definitely the way to go. You get a much bigger slip yoke on the 4L80E. Realistically, the extra weight of a 4L80E doesn't really matter at the 700hp+ mark. You got's power to burn at that level! :hail:

[Illusions]

our 4L60e is handling every bit of our 336 rwhp just fine in the 3980# pig. ;)

[ShawnBoyMoody]

For those who haven't already owned, raped, or seen it.....Meet my nemesis, SSloppy SSeconds.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/shawnboymoody/IMG_20110902_091955.jpg

[jmd]

For those who haven't already owned, raped, or seen it.....Meet my nemesis, SSloppy SSeconds.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/shawnboymoody/IMG_20110902_091955.jpg

i like it. wish i had one.

[MonteC]

Im sure he'd trade you for the GTO.

[jmd]

Im sure he'd trade you for the GTO.

if i wanted to trade.which i don't. i doubt he would.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

if i wanted to trade.which i don't. i doubt he would.

Hmmmm. Always liked the GTO's lol

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Well, ventured out to Summerville today and talked to the previous owner for an hour or so about the truck. He was very helpful and pretty much gave me a rundown on everything thats been done to the truck thus far. I also talked to Gerald on the phone for a lil bit and he gave me some ideas as well. Time to dig in here and find out whats going on with this thing. I also confirmed today that the battery in the truck is toast which cant be helping the complicated electronics on this thing at all. So, a new battery is the first order of business and I'll go from there. Wish ole Shawnboy some luck.

[BigdaddyDupree]

parks has got it. ac delco ftw

[Slow_Esuvee]

looks good how much is it lowered .... and as far as the gear ratio in the 4l80 trans all u got to do is change back wheels an tires 4.10 gear from factory

someone told me this will wake it up ?????

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l6/tta299/photo1ls2noskit.jpg

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Lol. Yeah that will do the trick. I REALLY want to go boasted but you just cant beat the the performance of NOS for the money. What does that kit sell for?

[Slow_Esuvee]

i cant remember right off but i got the other plate nitrous outlets because it is perimiter ..... that kits good for 300 shot :mrgreen: and the switch plate from nitrous outlet that gos in the i call it pen holder the small place in the front of the console. i wanna think 600 an something without bottle ... u got to by the drive by wire module also because our tb's arent cable


im still buying parts ... i want a mild build .... cant decide on heads

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Found some videos of the TBSS.

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[1iron]

Looks like a Mustang killer. What you wanna do?

[Slow_Esuvee]

you left him at the tree ... but it looks like it runs way ! better than mine .. sweet ride

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Looks like a Mustang killer. What you wanna do?

Pfft. Racecar.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

you left him at the tree ... but it looks like it runs way ! better than mine .. sweet ride

Not me. That was the previous owner and it sure aint running that good right now lol.

[Slow_Esuvee]

people dont understand u have to have twice the power twice the money because of breakage just to run what a light car can run every week all yr

[03SVTCOBRA]

http://www.lethalperformance.com/whipple-superchargers-chevy-cadillac-gm-tuner-kits-c-10344_10345_10371/whipple-07-10-4-8l-gm-2-3l-intercooled-tuner-kit-black-p-34932

Let me know when you want me to buy you this.

[Slow_Esuvee]

buy me 1 right now i will install it as soon as it arrives waiting ..... prolly cost as much as the tbss is worth .... how fast is you 03 ?????
?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

http://www.lethalperformance.com/whipple-superchargers-chevy-cadillac-gm-tuner-kits-c-10344_10345_10371/whipple-07-10-4-8l-gm-2-3l-intercooled-tuner-kit-black-p-34932

Let me know when you want me to buy you this.

Get it coming!

[PapaBear]

Never heard of those electrical problems with the trans.

Lot's of guys making big power with the 4L70 built with no worries. Stock it's horrible, but build it up and it's just fine.

[1998ta__1991rs]

i must be the only person who had luck with a stock 4L70, it had a converter and a cooler and held up over a year beating the crap out of it, and its still kicking now

[PapaBear]

Mine was doing fine, and was going to leave it alone, but decided to let Gerald build it while it was out for the converter install. But....I never did trust it, that's for sure.

[Derek]

Shawn I got some more that were never uploaded ill see if I can find them tonight.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Shawn I got some more that were never uploaded ill see if I can find them tonight.

Cool. I'd love too see em since I can't race the thing right now its the next best thing! Thanks!

[1iron]

Pfft. Racecar.

Pump gas skreet car.

[PapaBear]

You get this thing sorted out yet?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

You get this thing sorted out yet?

Got the new battery installed but the problem was still there. As you know from my question on tbssowners the truck would not crank in neutral as it should. Got under it this morning and tried to adjust the switch but could not get it adjusted right. There is wear (or its cracked) where the switch slides over the shaft. Gonna pick up a new one from Rob today. Gerald and I both think that the switch could possibly be the root of my problem.

[PapaBear]

Sweet. Keep us updated. If u need or want to try the TCM I have, you're welcome to it.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Sweet. Keep us updated. If u need or want to try the TCM I have, you're welcome to it.
:ty:

[Bradleyrj]

Rode in Sloppy Seconds today. Nice ride. Makes me really want one until SMMS told me about the fuel mileage. F THAT!

[Matts94Z28]

Bahahaha! Wait till its compound booooooosted.

[bwelch]

Rode in Sloppy Seconds today. Nice ride. Makes me really want one until SMMS told me about the fuel mileage. F THAT!

Thats why I sold mine.

[WILLIAMJRDN]

Rode in Sloppy Seconds today. Nice ride. Makes me really want one until SMMS told me about the fuel mileage. F THAT!

What I only lost around 1 mpg on the highway. in town well we will not talk about that.

[PapaBear]

It's hard to deal with, but you got to pay to play.

Is sloppy seconds stock engine-wise? What's been done to it?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Its got a comp cams camshaft. Otherwise its stock. It also has a 3200 stall converter which I don't think I'll be keeping. That's about it.

[PapaBear]

Why not keep? One of my best mods was my Circle D 3200. Love the way it comes off the line.

I have stock converter (I think) still if you want it.

I'll check this afternoon.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Why not keep? One of my best mods was my Circle D 3200. Love the way it comes off the line.

I have stock converter (I think) still if you want it.

I'll check this afternoon.

I don't know. I was thinking about the extra slippage hurting mileage worse than it already is, and also really wanna go boasted eventually and I don't know that might be too much stall? I was also concerned with the converter being contaminated from the tranny failure.

Zac said something about using the six cylinder converter behind the 6.0. Said it would stall higher than than the stock SS converter and its cheap. Again nothing in stone right now. Need to do more research!

[PapaBear]

Yes, the I6 converter is a little higher.

As far as mileage, I really didn't lose that much, maybe .5 MPG or something low like that. 3200 definately not too much stall, depending on where you're going with the truck. I don't plan to build a race truck with mine, and still need to tow a boat every now and then, so I went 3200. Some of these guys are running 3600 and 4000 RPM stall converters, but mainly on track trucks.

Hate to say it, but if you are worried about mileage, you got the wrong vehicle.

For the tranny failure and converter contamination, as far as I know, a good tranny flush will clean the converter as well. Or you could send it off for a "freshening up."

I'll let u know if I still have my stock one, might have went with the last scrap run.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

True on the mileage thing. I think Shawn said this was originally a 3800 stall converter that he sent to Cameron to be restalled to 3200. I just hate all these "unknowns". I dont have a problem using it if its okay.

[PapaBear]

So is the trans shot? I looked back but couldn't find it, but I thought you said the fluid smelled like weed and hooker spit or something of that nature.

[Derek]

Shawn if you want the stock converter just give me a yell its yours.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Lol, yeah tranny is shot. Needs to be rebuilt, Geralds gonna do it once I get this other issue sorted.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Shawn if you want the stock converter just give me a yell its yours.

Thanks Derek.:bigthumb:

[Matts94Z28]

Don't you dare put a stock converter in there!

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Don't you dare put a stock converter in there!

:hide:

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Can I tell you fuck this truck???

[Carlrx7]

tranny wasn't already built?

[MonteC]

I take it the MLPS didnt fix it?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

I take it the MLPS didnt fix it?

Oddly enough the repeatability of the problem was almost cut in half after changing that switch. It would cycle every 5 minutes before now it might do it once on a 25 mile trip. It's still there though. I replaced the electrical part of the ign switch last night on a long shot. No change there either but good insurance anyway as they are a problem on these trucks anyway. I'll be ordering pcmforless.coms battery cable upgrade with extra grounds in the next couple of days. After that I'm gonna burn the bitch.

[PapaBear]

You don't need that kit. Go buy some wire from somewhere an make it urself. I wasn't really pleased with their kit. Looks good, but nothing special for $50

[ElecTech]

Can you stop by the shop after 4 pm today?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

You don't need that kit. Go buy some wire from somewhere an make it urself. I wasn't really pleased with their kit. Looks good, but nothing special for $50

I actually have the crimpers and terminals to make my own here at the shop. I just don't feel like fooling with it lol. I think the price is reasonable for the quality of the cables he's offering.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Can you stop by the shop after 4 pm today?

I wish I could. My son has a ball game in Mt. Perfect this afternoon. I can make myself available tomorrow afternoon though, I was supposed to go shrimping but I can cancel if your available.

[ElecTech]

I wish I could. My son has a ball game in Mt. Perfect this afternoon. I can make myself available tomorrow afternoon though, I was supposed to go shrimping but I can cancel if your available.

Either tomorrow @ shop or at the house Friday. Both work for me.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Lets do Friday after work then. I'll bring ya some scrimps.