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chrisheltra 04-21-2012 02:57 AM

Cant let Foose have "ALL" the fun
 
Made a few test hit at bowman tonight. Overall Im real happy with the results but whats more encouraging is there still room for improvement on this setup via a few different areas.

Anyways on to the fun part.

First run
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/n74R_6UQ1b4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...a/d4ecd6c5.jpg

Second run
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/blTIlvp3bZ8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...a/f5b19aee.jpg

Third run
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/FAizKdMt99s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...a/aa0ef01d.jpg

bwelch 04-21-2012 03:17 AM

I heard Rob broke his driveshaft in Darlington. It's behind Brandon's truck on the way back now

Bradleyrj 04-21-2012 05:42 AM

Nice runs. 60' aint no slouch for a truck dude! Congrats

03SVTCOBRA 04-21-2012 06:54 AM

Nice job Chris, seems like yall pick up some time each time out.

Harry 04-21-2012 09:17 AM

Congrats Chris, Running times my gutted out car was runnig. :bigthumb:

slow04 04-21-2012 09:57 AM

Dammit man.....she's looking good.....that 60ft is awesome:cheers

DolSVT00 04-21-2012 10:17 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Its still shifting too early,I'm shifting it by MPH and the math works out in SCT but it doesn't translate to the logs without trail and error.

I need to change the converter delay too...

The 1-2
Attachment 1065

The 2-3

Attachment 1066

shts_weak 04-21-2012 11:29 AM

Congradz Bud.

spdracr0 04-21-2012 11:35 AM

Looking good man..

Carlrx7 04-21-2012 11:57 AM

FINALLY HIT 100MPH! awesome!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 163853)
Its still shifting too early,I'm shifting it by MPH and the math works out in SCT but it doesn't translate to the logs without trail and error.

I need to change the converter delay too...

The 1-2
Attachment 1065

The 2-3

Attachment 1066

compensating for the drag wheels and low tire psi?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwelch (Post 163837)
I heard Rob broke his driveshaft in Darlington. It's behind Brandon's truck on the way back now

Damn, darlington is nasty to drivetrain parts.

-Carl

spdracr0 04-21-2012 11:58 AM

How do you guys post timeslips and such....I know I am not so tech savvy

Carlrx7 04-21-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by spdracr0 (Post 163859)
How do you guys post timeslips and such....I know I am not so tech savvy

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

most use photobucket

DolSVT00 04-21-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlrx7 (Post 163858)
FINALLY HIT 100MPH! awesome!!!



compensating for the drag wheels and low tire psi?


-Carl

Shouldn't because of the way I have it setup, but that could be a factor of error in the program. I also think it has to do with the converter delay and time to slip in the tune.

MonteC 04-21-2012 12:13 PM

Were you crying on the last pass? Slip looks wet.

chrisheltra 04-21-2012 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonteC (Post 163862)
Were you crying on the last pass? Slip looks wet.

Thats jizz

1iron 04-21-2012 12:18 PM

Great passes.

DolSVT00 04-21-2012 12:47 PM

Gotta give it to Chris though, he did a good job of keeping the leave consistent on stall so I could get good info, we pretty much picked up .05 by shifting the 1-2 up from 5500 to 5800 so I know we'd pick up more if 2-3 did it. Dunno why the 2-3 didn't take other than whats mentioned earlier in this thread, It was changed, but the 2-3 shifted exactly where it did the previous pass..... I'm thinking some kind of random PCM error to tell the truth.

chrisheltra 04-21-2012 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 163866)
Gotta give it to Chris though, he did a good job of keeping the leave consistent on stall so I could get good info, we pretty much picked up .05 by shifting the 1-2 up from 5500 to 5800 so I know we'd pick up more if 2-3 did it. Dunno why the 2-3 didn't take other than whats mentioned earlier in this thread, It was changed, but the 2-3 shifted exactly where it did the previous pass..... I'm thinking some kind of random PCM error to tell the truth.

Well get it nailed down. As long as I can keep it consistent youll have a good foundation to tune off of. Maybe the pcm needed a couple more passes to fully adapt the tune? Dunno. All I know is I had a blast and looking forward to getting a .6 and more.

spdracr0 04-21-2012 12:55 PM

I do not know about this adaptive theory. I think it may be opposite of the convention. The PCM has learned from driving it. A useful function I have found on the Diablo is to clear the KAMS before a pass and it runs exactly off of the tune parameters.

DolSVT00 04-21-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spdracr0 (Post 163868)
I do not know about this adaptive theory. I think it may be opposite of the convention. The PCM has learned from driving it. A useful function I have found on the Diablo is to clear the KAMS before a pass and it runs exactly off of the tune parameters.

You can do the same thing by turning adaptive on and off, it clears the keep alive memory... Its not an option in sct though, its disable/ re enable or pull the battery terminal, all of which are a PITA because you have to fix things like the radio and clock when you pull terminals and you have to flash twice with SCT....

I did like that option with Diablosport.

spdracr0 04-21-2012 01:10 PM

In case you need a reference, I am gonna try to post a timeslip. Mayne Carl will not laugh at me if I get it wrong...
http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/...racr0/1049.jpg

spdracr0 04-21-2012 01:10 PM

fail, hot damn that was a first for me...learned something new today
Now I need one of those smartass phones and I could do it from the track

spdracr0 04-21-2012 01:20 PM

All of this was possible due to Randy BTW. Without his help it would say 7.30 and 11.50

98Camarod 04-21-2012 03:09 PM

lol at the tags for the thread

nice job chris

Carlrx7 04-21-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 163869)
You can do the same thing by turning adaptive on and off, it clears the keep alive memory... Its not an option in sct though, its disable/ re enable or pull the battery terminal, all of which are a PITA because you have to fix things like the radio and clock when you pull terminals and you have to flash twice with SCT....

I did like that option with Diablosport.

i turned that adaptive shit off on the A6 vette.

ShawnBoyMoody 04-21-2012 08:29 PM

Hot Damn Chris. Bade A.

Foose04 04-21-2012 09:19 PM

Well done Chris! I'd say you should have came to Darlington with me, but well hell I had a long night.

Any case, you got that thing 60'ing like you running from a fat chick. Keep it up man!

chrisheltra 04-21-2012 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foose04 (Post 163914)
Well done Chris! I'd say you should have came to Darlington with me, but well hell I had a long night.

Any case, you got that thing 60'ing like you running from a fat chick. Keep it up man!

Thank you sir. Sorry you had issues last night. Are you making a vid of the clean runs? Looking forward to it if so. :bigthumb:

ForceFed4g63 04-22-2012 01:23 AM

Congrats Chris!

LadyInRed 04-22-2012 09:40 AM

Nice times, Chris :bigthumb:

ElecTech 04-22-2012 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 163853)
Its still shifting too early,I'm shifting it by MPH and the math works out in SCT but it doesn't translate to the logs without trail and error.

I need to change the converter delay too...


The 2-3

Attachment 1066

Load seemed to be dropping off pretty early on the 2-3 shift. Can you log shift request to see when the ECU is commanding the shift vs, when it completes?

DolSVT00 04-22-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElecTech (Post 163962)
Load seemed to be dropping off pretty early on the 2-3 shift. Can you log shift request to see when the ECU is commanding the shift vs, when it completes?

Unfortunately not on our pcm, the PID loads but its trash data.

I noticed the load aswell thats why I mentioned the delay, that i can tighten up.

ElecTech 04-22-2012 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 163963)
Unfortunately not on our pcm, the PID loads but its trash data.

I noticed the load aswell thats why I mentioned the delay, that i can tighten up.

Stupid trash data!

Truck looks good, otherwise. Is that the race fuel calibration?

DolSVT00 04-22-2012 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElecTech (Post 163966)
Stupid trash data!

Truck looks good, otherwise. Is that the race fuel calibration?

Actually, other than shift points,timing, retard for ACT scaled up, and some converter lock delay changes its pretty much the tune I wrote for 93. The a/f is in the low 11's, and I didn't touch the MaF transfer or the base fuel tables.

He runs 10* on pump gas with an ACT retard of 4* @ 150F and scaling up from there. The shift points are set at 5400 at WOT with the delay set to 55-5600.

On the Good Gas friday I had him on 19* No ACT retard below 200F and the shift points set to 5950 with the delay at 6100.

ElecTech 04-22-2012 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 163970)
On the Good Gas friday I had him on 19* No ACT retard below 200F and the shift points set to 5950 with the delay at 6100.

Possible converter efficiancy causing the shift extension? Couple hundred RPM error is not unheard of from desired to actual when shifting on MPH.

DolSVT00 04-22-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElecTech (Post 163974)
Possible converter efficiancy causing the shift extension? Couple hundred RPM error is not unheard of from desired to actual when shifting on MPH.

I'm leaning on converter too, I think i could have worked it out given more passes.

We only got 4 passes, and 3 of them made gains each time from changes, none of which were timing or fuel,they were all transmission.

The one pass he didn't mention was a 6.91 and it fell on its face at the 60 from fuel wash. He has a 10 gallon tank and we had 5 gal of C16, after the 2 previous passes the fuel used was enough that when he tried to cut another one of them 1.4's it starved the pump when it went to the back of the tank..... We had to buy 3 more gallons to make the last pass.

LXtasy 04-22-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 163980)
I'm leaning on converter too, I think i could have worked it out given more passes.

We only got 4 passes, and 3 of them made gains each time from changes, none of which were timing or fuel,they were all transmission.

The one pass he didn't mention was a 6.91 and it fell on its face at the 60 from fuel wash. He has a 10 gallon tank and we had 5 gal of C16, after the 2 previous passes the fuel used was enough that when he tried to cut another one of them 1.4's it starved the pump when it went to the back of the tank..... We had to buy 3 more gallons to make the last pass.

Be careful throwing the highlighted words around here like that sir.

chrisheltra 04-22-2012 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LXtasy (Post 163982)
Be careful throwing the highlighted words around here like that sir.

LMFAO

DolSVT00 04-22-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LXtasy (Post 163982)
Be careful throwing the highlighted words around here like that sir.

Ok he


How bout that...

LXtasy 04-22-2012 11:06 AM

That is better Randy. I don't have a problem with those words like some other haters here do. Just a heads up because I like you.


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