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ForceFed4g63 07-11-2012 09:04 AM

Internet Out?
 
Our internet at work went out early yesterday afternoon, at&t. Came in this morning and its still out. Apparently some other businesses are out too. Anybody else? I'm so screwed, my workload is increasing exponentially the longer its out.

PapaBear 07-11-2012 09:17 AM

Not out at Boeing.....but when it does go out, they send us all home. I remember the railroad hit a line one day at like 7:30 in the morning. Once Boeing found out it would be all day before it was fixed.....we were outta here at 9AM, PAID!!

Wish it happened more often lol.

jmd 07-11-2012 12:33 PM

nope

adamcs 07-11-2012 01:02 PM

I pay verizon a bunch of money every month and my internet barely ever works if that counts.

LXtasy 07-11-2012 01:14 PM

Had internet all day at the house. Even had it on the ps3.

blubyu87gt 07-11-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by adamcs (Post 178032)
I pay verizon a bunch of money every month and my internet barely ever works if that counts.

You need to get off them porn sites anyway.

LXtasy 07-11-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blubyu87gt (Post 178038)
You need to get off them porn sites anyway.

I bet he does. :hide:

adamcs 07-11-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blubyu87gt (Post 178038)
You need to get off them porn sites anyway.

You need to go to work and fix my damn internet

blubyu87gt 07-11-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by adamcs (Post 178046)
You need to go to work and fix my damn internet

Don't make me negative rep you.

LXtasy 07-11-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blubyu87gt (Post 178082)
Don't make me negative rep you.

no balls

namewastaken_0_0 07-11-2012 07:13 PM

You must not work for a big company......


Most companies that actually have an IT budget.....have redundant systems. At work we have 3 internet providers. Verzion for FTTC (fiber). AT&T DSL, and some no name brand dsl provider. We use the fiber as a primary. 4 t1's load balanced.


If you actually have an IT dept its always something to bring up to them. Now, our offsite warehouses have single internet backbones. But main plant has backups for backups :P

ForceFed4g63 07-11-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by namewastaken_0_0 (Post 178108)
You must not work for a big company......


Most companies that actually have an IT budget.....have redundant systems. At work we have 3 internet providers. Verzion for FTTC (fiber). AT&T DSL, and some no name brand dsl provider. We use the fiber as a primary. 4 t1's load balanced.


If you actually have an IT dept its always something to bring up to them. Now, our offsite warehouses have single internet backbones. But main plant has backups for backups :P

We have over 5,000 people in the company and we do have an IT dept lol. One of the main cables was severed somehow, not much the IT dept can do about that. There were a few managers that have WiFi but as for us peons we were SOL.

namewastaken_0_0 07-11-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFed4g63 (Post 178126)
We have over 5,000 people in the company and we do have an IT dept lol. One of the main cables was severed somehow, not much the IT dept can do about that. There were a few managers that have WiFi but as for us peons we were SOL.

Sucks. Yall have on site IT or just helpdesk in India?


I really want to look for something more local. 45min commute is killing my wallet.....

ForceFed4g63 07-11-2012 09:48 PM

IT is at corporate up in NYC, and they are pretty much incompetent.

Kwiksilver 07-11-2012 09:51 PM

One of our locators put a pic up of a huge fiber cut in town somewhere. Maybe that was it. I don't fix fiber but when we fixed a big cable for boeing, they brought us bags of hats and shit for getting it going. High rollers fosho

ForceFed4g63 07-11-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwiksilver (Post 178134)
One of our locators put a pic up of a huge fiber cut in town somewhere. Maybe that was it. I don't fix fiber but when we fixed a big cable for boeing, they brought us bags of hats and shit for getting it going. High rollers fosho

I'm willing to bet that was it.

Carlrx7 07-11-2012 10:38 PM

have fun splicing fiber optic cable in the field!

Kwiksilver 07-12-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlrx7 (Post 178143)
have fun splicing fiber optic cable in the field!


You'd be surprised how easy it is.

chrisheltra 07-12-2012 09:15 AM

Super easy

LXtasy 07-12-2012 09:27 AM

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adamcs 07-12-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by blubyu87gt (Post 178082)
Don't make me negative rep you.

You negative rep me and ill negative rep you back so hard

LXtasy 07-12-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by adamcs (Post 178177)
You negative rep me and ill negative rep you back so hard

You sound like my daughter lmao

oldskoolstang 07-12-2012 12:40 PM

Fiber optic cable work in the field is not too bad. I wish I had that job. It's better than mine....

chrisheltra 07-12-2012 03:38 PM

Boeing gives you the day off if you dont have interwebz? My company wont even give us the day off if the power goes out.

ForceFed4g63 07-12-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra (Post 178210)
Boeing gives you the day off if you dont have interwebz? My company wont even give us the day off if the power goes out.

Same here.

PapaBear 07-12-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra (Post 178210)
Boeing gives you the day off if you dont have interwebz? My company wont even give us the day off if the power goes out.

We work to current specifications and processes as well as work instructions, all of which must be verified against current engineering. If that stuff is not available we are violating FAA regulations. So....no web equals no work.

AverageJoe 07-12-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra (Post 178210)
Boeing gives you the day off if you dont have interwebz? My company wont even give us the day off if the power goes out.

Boeing will also give you the rest of your life off, without pay, at the drop of a hat.

Cmatt1605 07-12-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AverageJoe (Post 178215)
Boeing will also give you the rest of your life off, without pay, at the drop of a hat.

I guess you had a bad experience?

Derek 07-12-2012 04:35 PM

I cut a phone line once kept it as a souvenir.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...2124706541.jpg

Couldn't tell you how many pairs

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...2124665904.jpg

ASkipper 07-12-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 178218)
I cut a phone line once kept it as a souvenir.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...2124706541.jpg

Couldn't tell you how many pairs

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...2124665904.jpg

Looks like a 600pair cable.

I have had to work all night on several occasions fixing 2100 cables that have been cut. I remember one that was cut on 17 a few days before July 4th in '03 or '04 and it took 15 guys all night to fix. I was coming into the office with my truck and backhoe and happen to drive by as they were needing a tractor to dig up the cut cable. Needless to say I got stopped by my buddies and had to help out. I worked 24 hrs straight that time. I had to wait for a fresh person to drive the truck and tractor home after I had worked over the 15hrs. allowed to be able to drive the big truck in to the plant. A 2100 cable is 5" in diameter and weighs a lot.

What a 2100 pair looks like opened up in a pedestal

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...1342126782.jpg

Buddy of mine working on a 600 pair with a few tie cables in a pedestal

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...1342127091.jpg

Kwiksilver 07-12-2012 07:40 PM

We had 2 cut 1800 pulp cables on rivers ave. Took us a week of 24 hrs straight crews working. Had to tone every pair. It's easy to rack up a $20,000 bill cutting a big fiber like that.

Derek 07-12-2012 07:48 PM

Fortunately mine ended up being a dead line because I was lazy and forgot to take before pics to show it wasn't marked.

ASkipper 07-12-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwiksilver (Post 178242)
We had 2 cut 1800 pulp cables on rivers ave. Took us a week of 24 hrs straight crews working. Had to tone every pair. It's easy to rack up a $20,000 bill cutting a big fiber like that.

There is a fiber optic cable that runs down 501 from Florence to Conway owned by AT&T. It controls the 911 service for a lot of the east coast. I have had to dig around it a few times. They always have a tech onsite and will only let us get to within 4 ft of the cable. IF its cut the tech will loose his job and the company that cuts it can be charged very high. We have been told that it cost upwards of $1,000,000 a minute that its out.

Our company sends bills out often. It depends on how big the cable is and how much outage we have but I have seen bills in excess of $100,000. They usually charge $.25 per scotchlock that is used.

namewastaken_0_0 07-12-2012 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwiksilver (Post 178242)
We had 2 cut 1800 pulp cables on rivers ave. Took us a week of 24 hrs straight crews working. Had to tone every pair. It's easy to rack up a $20,000 bill cutting a big fiber like that.

Our fiber guy at comcast could do a 20 pair in about 12 hours or so (unsure if that is fast) .....lol they trained us how to use a fusion splicer.....after 4 tries I got a pass and did it (for one line). He made upwards of 90k a year at Comcast. Now hes working in the head end.


Its easy work, but tedious as shit....


The company I work for is going to pay for all 3 fiber certs for me. Then working on my CCNA.....should be nice to accent my resume with.

namewastaken_0_0 07-12-2012 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ASkipper (Post 178221)
Looks like a 600pair cable.

I have had to work all night on several occasions fixing 2100 cables that have been cut. I remember one that was cut on 17 a few days before July 4th in '03 or '04 and it took 15 guys all night to fix. I was coming into the office with my truck and backhoe and happen to drive by as they were needing a tractor to dig up the cut cable. Needless to say I got stopped by my buddies and had to help out. I worked 24 hrs straight that time. I had to wait for a fresh person to drive the truck and tractor home after I had worked over the 15hrs. allowed to be able to drive the big truck in to the plant. A 2100 cable is 5" in diameter and weighs a lot.

What a 2100 pair looks like opened up in a pedestal

[IMG]http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/askipper/1342126782.jpg[/G]

Buddy of mine working on a 600 pair with a few tie cables in a pedestal

[IMG]http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/askipper/1342127091.jpg[/G]



So very much hate for scotch locks......dear sweet little baby jesus

2001hawk 07-13-2012 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AverageJoe (Post 178215)
Boeing will also give you the rest of your life off, without pay, at the drop of a hat.

Look Joe I happen to disagree with you slightly. Let me assure you first, I don't stand up for everything Boeing does. Second, there is a big difference in being a Boeing (blue badge) employee and working for one of the contract companies (grey badge). The biggest difference is in job security. Contractors are generally paid a little more, but the benefits just aren't there. Because I work in final assembly, I see the things that get done wrong EVERY day. By everyday I mean several times a day some yahoo will do a job and then when it gets to me things don't fit or look like they should. Keep in mind that most of the jobs are done within spec, but because of the statement of work in my section the incorrect jobs become readily apparent. I have seen the same person mess up three jobs last week alone. I was so pissed off the third time I was really starting to wonder if he can read at all. Still today he has a job. I had a guy working for me in TX last year that left before the end of the shift and entered the full shifts hours into the computer. When my boss went to question him about it he was caught texting on his phone. He admitted all of this and just got chewed out. That was the first time I have ever heard of a company not firing someone for time card falsification. As of a couple of months ago this clown still worked for Boeing the guy probably still does I just haven't been looking for him. I could understand if either person was a really good mechanic allowing them a slip here or there. The only thing to chalk it up to is who the person is actually employed by. There are a few things that Boeing will walk you out for, but they do put up with a lot of shit that other places would fire you for on the spot.
Now for contractors you are in a completely different category. I have seen contractors get fired for things that you wouldn't even get a verbal reprimand for as a blue badge. I know this isn't something comforting to you, but it is what it is. I do think from your side that is probably the situation. On a side note I know of two people that got fired as contractors and still work there today. One of the guys got hired back as a blue badge after getting fired as a contractor TWICE before and the other the works for the same contract company he has been fired from once before.

ForceFed4g63 07-13-2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001hawk (Post 178287)
Look Joe I happen to disagree with you slightly. Let me assure you first, I don't stand up for everything Boeing does. Second, there is a big difference in being a Boeing (blue badge) employee and working for one of the contract companies (grey badge). The biggest difference is in job security. Contractors are generally paid a little more, but the benefits just aren't there. Because I work in final assembly, I see the things that get done wrong EVERY day. By everyday I mean several times a day some yahoo will do a job and then when it gets to me things don't fit or look like they should. Keep in mind that most of the jobs are done within spec, but because of the statement of work in my section the incorrect jobs become readily apparent. I have seen the same person mess up three jobs last week alone. I was so pissed off the third time I was really starting to wonder if he can read at all. Still today he has a job. I had a guy working for me in TX last year that left before the end of the shift and entered the full shifts hours into the computer. When my boss went to question him about it he was caught texting on his phone. He admitted all of this and just got chewed out. That was the first time I have ever heard of a company not firing someone for time card falsification. As of a couple of months ago this clown still worked for Boeing the guy probably still does I just haven't been looking for him. I could understand if either person was a really good mechanic allowing them a slip here or there. The only thing to chalk it up to is who the person is actually employed by. There are a few things that Boeing will walk you out for, but they do put up with a lot of shit that other places would fire you for on the spot.
Now for contractors you are in a completely different category. I have seen contractors get fired for things that you wouldn't even get a verbal reprimand for as a blue badge. I know this isn't something comforting to you, but it is what it is. I do think from your side that is probably the situation. On a side note I know of two people that got fired as contractors and still work there today. One of the guys got hired back as a blue badge after getting fired as a contractor TWICE before and the other the works for the same contract company he has been fired from once before.

This is what irritates me, I keep hearing stories like this, and I keep wondering how these people get the jobs, and I can't even get a damn interview there.

LXtasy 07-13-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFed4g63 (Post 178291)
This is what irritates me, I keep hearing stories like this, and I keep wondering how these people get the jobs, and I can't even get a damn interview there.

No lie. I have applied for numerous jobs out there. I don't even get much of a phone call or "thank you kiss my ass" email. It is cool though. I heard a lot of those people that work there are premadonna's and complain that work is "hard". lol

ShawnBoyMoody 07-13-2012 12:57 PM

From what I was told a computer scans the applications. Without certain key words you wont ever hear a thing. Redo your application with these key words: Ohio, back home, up north, moved, transplant, michigan, cold weather, rude, carpet baggers......also mention something about how well you drive on snow and ice. You'll get a call immediately.

ForceFed4g63 07-13-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnBoyMoody (Post 178334)
From what I was told a computer scans the applications. Without certain key words you wont ever hear a thing. Redo your application with these key words: Ohio, back home, up north, moved, transplant, michigan, cold weather, rude, carpet baggers......also mention something about how well you drive on snow and ice. You'll get a call immediately.

LMAO!

Funny thing is I know the key words and they are all up in my resume. I've applied for over 30 jobs there and never heard a peep back.


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