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1SMKN99 09-27-2012 09:40 AM

procharger or turbo?
 
okay so im at the point now where i want to go with forced induction and i have found two setups for sale that cost the same. the first is a D1SC procharger kit intercooled, the second one is a on3 performance turbo kit complete with shorty headers, all the piping, 76mm turbo, tubular front suspension w/ coilovers.

im debating on which one is going to be the best option, i eventually want to be at 700+hp running meth.

ForceFed4g63 09-27-2012 09:42 AM

Turblo!

Shane361 09-27-2012 09:44 AM

Stock Block? I want to say the Procharger is going to net you alot less power than the 76mm. I would go turbo without a doubt. Had an 02 procharger stock block GT Mustang and it was 400 at the wheel.

RoadconeTuning 09-27-2012 09:48 AM

i think hes got a built bottom end so i'd go 76mm. If the 76 comes with the on3 kit then its probably some 20yr old designed 76mm that will only make 700hp maxed out... a newer 7675 or something would let you make the power way easier...I'm actually curious as to how a 6266 would do on a 2v car.

1998ta__1991rs 09-27-2012 09:49 AM

Turbo. But do some research on the on3 stuff first

jmd 09-27-2012 09:50 AM

turbo!!

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane361 (Post 191511)
Stock Block? I want to say the Procharger is going to net you alot less power than the 76mm. I would go turbo without a doubt. Had an 02 procharger stock block GT Mustang and it was 400 at the wheel.

i have a built dss shortblock thats going in it soon

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 09:52 AM

i mean ive seen where guys were pushing 21-22lbs of boost on a 2v from the D1SC prochargers. and my motor is built with stage 3 ported heads, stage 2 bullet blower cams, and 9.5:1 dished dss pistons

RoadconeTuning 09-27-2012 10:09 AM

whos stage 3 porting and whos spec'd out the blower cams? you CAN run a ton of boost on a 2v easily since the heads blow ass but a turbo will make retarded power on a mod motor...

go talk to the guys over on TurboForums.com about your goals... theres a TON of 1000hp mod motor guys over there...

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadconeTuning (Post 191521)
whos stage 3 porting and whos spec'd out the blower cams? you CAN run a ton of boost on a 2v easily since the heads blow ass but a turbo will make retarded power on a mod motor...

go talk to the guys over on TurboForums.com about your goals... theres a TON of 1000hp mod motor guys over there...

patriot peroformance stage 3 heads, and mhs cams.

RoadconeTuning 09-27-2012 10:20 AM

Patriot FTL, i cant remember if their springs were worth a shit or not. i know over 8lbs or so of boost will hang the exhaust valves open with a 61mm turbo and stock springs... makes for a funny dyno graph.

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RoadconeTuning (Post 191526)
Patriot FTL, i cant remember if their springs were worth a shit or not. i know over 8lbs or so of boost will hang the exhaust valves open with a 61mm turbo and stock springs... makes for a funny dyno graph.

theyve changed up alot of there stuff recently. i think i just like the simplicity or the procharger vs the turbo.

RoadconeTuning 09-27-2012 10:34 AM

blowers are a huge pita in their own right as well... but if you do a blower i'd go with a NOVI2000 kit with the front mount from paxton

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 10:55 AM

if i go with a blower im gonna get the D1SC kit i found

slowgreen99 09-27-2012 11:26 AM

turbo, but not on3 lol.

schardbody 09-27-2012 11:29 AM

Www.modularmisfits.com hang out there for a little bit. Was a small group when I was into mod motors.

LXtasy 09-27-2012 11:30 AM

Turbo.

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by slowgreen99 (Post 191534)
turbo, but not on3 lol.

whats a good kit to go with then?

s14.5gonewide 09-27-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 1998ta__1991rs (Post 191513)
Turbo. But do some research on the on3 stuff first


yea havnt herd allot of good stuff with them.

ForceFed4g63 09-27-2012 11:55 AM

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Internat...070612_ssh.jpg

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFed4g63 (Post 191544)

lol what?

s14.5gonewide 09-27-2012 12:07 PM

he is posting about my misspelled word

bwelch 09-27-2012 12:14 PM

Nitrous

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 12:45 PM

already have nitrous :bigthumb:

jmd 09-27-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1SMKN99 (Post 191554)
already have nitrous :bigthumb:

installed and ready to shoot?

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jmd (Post 191558)
installed and ready to shoot?

have to get a few parts today that the guy didnt send me but it will bw ready to shoot saturday, we still on for rematch? i wont spray.

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 01:07 PM

im gonna be pissed if the neon still gets me even with me sprayin lol

Bradleyrj 09-27-2012 01:15 PM

Turbo hands down. The earlier on3 kits were ok, quality has suffered some lately. Get the turbo kit because it has the tubular front suspension to go along with it. Then if needed you can replace / swap turbo kit parts later. Do you have the fuel system for boost yet? Which bov and wg are included with the turbo kit?

jmd 09-27-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1SMKN99 (Post 191560)
im gonna be pissed if the neon still gets me even with me sprayin lol

he is quick.

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jmd (Post 191564)
he is quick.

i agree

ForceFed4g63 09-27-2012 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1SMKN99 (Post 191560)
im gonna be pissed if the neon still gets me even with me sprayin lol

Should be a good race, you guys give the peon too much credit.

jmd 09-27-2012 02:33 PM

looks like i need a 200 shot to keep up.

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jmd (Post 191582)
looks like i need a 200 shot to keep up.

do it! then we'll both blow up when we go to race lol

jmd 09-27-2012 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1SMKN99 (Post 191584)
do it! then we'll both blow up when we go to race lol

some one needs to film that for chris's fail vids.

1SMKN99 09-27-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jmd (Post 191585)
some one needs to film that for chris's fail vids.

haha i really hope my shit dont blow up, however....if it does itd make for a nice video lol

1SMKN99 09-28-2012 10:03 AM

so i think i decided on getting the procharger for now, and later on down the road when i want some more power ill go with the thp twin turbo kit

03SVTCOBRA 09-28-2012 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowgreen99 (Post 191534)
turbo, but not on3 lol.

This lol... ive seen some pictures of the garbage they send out to people.

1SMKN99 09-28-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 03SVTCOBRA (Post 191719)
This lol... ive seen some pictures of the garbage they send out to people.

yea i did some research last night on it, realllly glad i didnt buy this kit

red99pony 09-28-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadconeTuning (Post 191526)
Patriot FTL, i cant remember if their springs were worth a shit or not. i know over 8lbs or so of boost will hang the exhaust valves open with a 61mm turbo and stock springs... makes for a funny dyno graph.

:bs: have you had stage 3 patriot heads on your car. or you heard from a guy your friend knows. i have had mine for several years making about 14 lbs of boost and no funny dyno graph or stuck valves.

1BAD4DR 09-28-2012 10:40 PM

F2 procharger...possibly F3


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