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Duramax Turbo Help/ Suggestions
So- I have an appointment set next month to take my truck and get the trans completely built and to have a bigger turbo put in at the same time in my DD 05 Duramax. Right now I have it down to get a Borg Warner 67.7 FMW turbo with a race cover and 5.4 inlet and I'm having the stock 1.1 exhaust housing swapped over to a .9 ar for better driveability.
Any other suggestions of what to run? I'm thinking about just stepping g it up to a S472 as I think it will give me room to grow in the future, but don't know how it will affect my overall driveability in the meantime. Just rambling I guess... |
Lmao. You didnt listen to anyones suggestions last month, why are you asking again? Just so you wont listen to them and do what ever you wanted to in the first place?
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im not v8 guy but when i see 62-67's on them its usually in twins... at thats pump gas/e85.. i would think your dirtymax is going to be blowing more hot air than boost...
allot of guys on hear are very knowledgeable with trucks and how to extract the most power efficiently... i would listen to them and not just take it to a shop with open ended promises.. unless you have an open checkbook... the members hear may take your money but its done right, is a proven combo with quality parts and at a fair price... i was all gung ho about a 04 crew cab duramax made a few calls to members hear and they told me to stay far away... truck i have now may be gas but i have had it 3 years and have only done a waterpump and im over 200k and the truck was one am ember told me to look at so yea... |
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He wants to do more, and found a shop to do it, and he gets blasted for not taking recommendations on who to do the trans? Instead of bashing him and talking trash, why not suggest to him that you do the transmission and your sister shop CPS could work on the turbo work for him? I seem to remember the same bashing going on when my build was taking place. I also seem to remember the same people being a part of it. Instead of getting all bent out of shape when someone uses someone other than you, why not just ask what else you can do to win their business? Again, devil's advocate here. Carry on. :bigthumb: |
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http://global3.memecdn.com/reposters...t_o_405779.gif lol |
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Shit. I fucked up and came back to this web site. Why the fuck did I do that.
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Call River City Turbo 1 877 488 7264.They can build you what you need.They most of the turbos for these diesel performance companies anyhow.
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I'm a dealer for Reed at Work Turbochargers...
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Id call a ford or dodge dealer. Lol.
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Pepboys ftmfw!
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Damn- Sorry i haven't been back on to check for replies until today.
I'm merely only asking for opinions. I've tried calling Griffin Transmission as suggested multiple times on different days and never got an answer so i continued looking around. I want someone that i will be able to contact and get a hold of that is performing the work. Simple as that. I found a shop (Diesel Addiction) that has a very good reputation with building Duramax specific trucks based out of North Carolina. I have been able to speak multiple times with the person that will be building my truck for 30+ minutes at a time for every phone conversation I've had with them. To me- that is a vitally important part of customer service and owning a business; and frankly how you win customers. Believe me i am very open to suggestions. I value every ones opinion as it will in turn only help me down the road I'm going. From the research I've done and looking at the compressor/flow map the turbo seems that it would work very good in the operating parameters for which i plan to use it and has a very competitive price considering it already has a forged milled wheel and a race cover on it. There were a few specialized things i wanted done during the installation of the turbo and building of the trans and i was unable to locate anyone local that had the capabilities to do it and after talking with the shop and speaking with other people that have had custom work done there they were extremely pleased. There are few things that i wanted done that i couldn't just buy "in a kit". A one stop shop seemed like it would be the best route to me to get done what i want done. My biggest thing is the time to get it all done- i don't really have the time to bounce from shop to shop or wait for this part here and there, ETC. Sorry if i offended anyone- I just want to do what would seem best for me in the long run and makes the most sense. |
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I decided to completely switch everything over and go with a non-vvt turbo as it would eliminate any potential issues with the vanes in the long run and eliminate the restrictions associated with the vanes. From everything I've seen the non-vvt turbos are hands down better at keeping EGTs down and long term reliability as there are no extra moving parts inside. The biggest deciding factor was the ability to easily change the turbo internals to match future modifications to the truck and still be on a S400 framed charger that will hold up to the abuse better than a smaller s300 frame. |
Vvt- I dislike stuck vanes, but like the exhaust brake function while towing. Ill never make anywhere north of 500hp, so I have no use going to something larger. I like how this turbo can make that kind of power with no other custom stuff, just swaps in place of the stock turbo and the air intake goes right back on. I think I will either go with this one or the stage 1 once I make a change since I only use the truck for towing/hauling.
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If i hauled anything else besides ass i would get another VVT solely due to the turbo braking capabilities. I currently have zero use for a turbo brake as the most i've ever hauled and will probably ever haul with the truck is Papabears' TBSS when it breaks again.. :) |
Just curious... what specialized things are they doing that others are not capable of? I'm not asking as a figure from CPS, but asking as a fellow duramax owner.
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I just snap my fingers and Rob answers, so I dunno.
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One of the biggest things is building the entire turbo intake setup. I'm ordering a S&B cold air intake kit for an LBZ and will only be using the enclosed air filter housing out of the kit. They will be then making a 5" intake tube from the S&B box over to the turbo inlet out of mandrel bent pipe. The S&B stock piping can not be used due to the 5.5" turbo inlet. They are also building/mandrel bending a 4" down pipe for it as the exhaust housing is 4" and getting rid of the 3" down pipe I already have installed. I also wanted the y bridge replaced so I don't run the chance of blowing the gasket out of my stock one so they will be fabricating a new y bridge also to match the 7" tall turbo pedestal. The turbo pedestal will have a provision added to it for a waste gate for when I build the motor or twin over this turbo later. They are swapping the standard 1.1 exhaust housing over to a .9 to help spool up and drive ability since it will still be my DD. As far as the transmission they actually measure and verify the after market parts and have extras of different sizes on hand to swap them around for different tolerances or will machine down anything that does not fit correctly. A lot of Allison rebuild/build kits come with generic parts and most people just shove them in the trans and hope they work because they "came in a kit" but do not take the time to verify tolerances of the replacement internals. They will also be tuning the ecm and tcm to match the new characteristics of the trans and turbo. There are other things, but those are the biggest. |
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I really was looking for a one stop shop kinda deal as I do not have the time to take the truck here for a week and then there for a week and then over there for a week and chase parts in between and then re tune it for what everyone did and hope it comes out OK. I had to make a decision of what was best for me. |
what kinda power are you looking to make and what all is done to the engine?
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Sounds like a fun build. What is the build time? |
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they are pricey. i think the broke part of your name is misleading.... lol
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From what I've seen it's around 15K to build it how I'd want.
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-Mike |
I just like giving you hell Mikey. You know you my dawg
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Mike, glad to know you are there. good deal! yeah, i usually text Rob, i know he's busy herding cats. |
What I have seen and gathered Diesel Addiction is a bolt kind of company.Meaning,they use other companies products,not fabbing their own(Suncoast transmissions,MPI turbo systems and etc.....).So more than likely they will swap your trans for a crate Suncoast built trans and MPI,SoCal or others turbo products and mounts.All this can be done locally.CPS,Diesel Performance and Rhino lining off Long Point Rd.,LionHeart Diesel of Rivers Ave and there's some others who can do bolt on.If you are trying for 650-700 RWHP you better start buying some internal parts now.Rods are going to bend.Also,don't take the word of any shop when they say one week.It always bites them in the ass:mrgreen:
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in case you get to looking for any stuff in the future, i have:
complete 2007 lbz engine turbo to oil pan (not sure i want to sell it though) lb7 rods lbz rods lb7 pistons lbz pistons 2 camshafts flexplate rear cover (i think) 2 sets of timing gears 2 oil pumps oil pan drivers side exhaust manifold |
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I've talked to them extensively and told them exactly what I wanted done and with what components, etc. They are using a suncoast gmax 5pac kit for the trans. I looked into buying a trans from Calvins in Louisiana and having it shipped here but it worries me if something goes wrong internally his shop isn't local to take it to for service and repair- and his price was about 1K more (mostly shipping trans here and core back) I've talked to performance diesel in Mt. Pleasant and he said he doesn't build Allison transmissions but offered me a crate ATS transmission which I don't want. I've never heard of Lion Heart- ill have to look into that. |
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