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what'snext 10-03-2010 10:24 PM

Insanely clean 646 RWHP Daily Driver 01 Lightning
 
Was told to post this here

*** PLEASE NOTE I DO NOT WANT TO SELL OR TRADE THIS AS I JUST GOT IT BUT A) IT WON'T FIT IN MY GARAGE AND I CAN'T BARE TO LET IT SIT OUTSIDE and B) I DRIVE IT 60 MILES DAILY AND I'M GETTING KILLED ON GAS lol***

I'm pretty sure I have a deal in place to trade the truck but here goes anyway.


This is probably the most ridiculous daily drivable truck you will come across. Many reputable people including Rick at Amazon can vouch for this truck being legit. I'll keep the description fairly limited and assume that if you are seriously interested you'll inquire about more minute details. The truck has 97k original miles but it shows like a 20k mile truck and EVERYTHING that matters has much less than 20k miles on it. Receipts and dyno sheets available. No expense was spared in the building of this truck. It's taken first place trophies including best lightning at Mustang week. Will consider trades but NO junk. Some details:

Silver 01 F-150 SVT Lightning
Black and grey suede interior

MOTOR:

Injected Engineering pro race 5.4 long block
ARP 12 point head and main studs
Federal mogul tri metal bearings
Manley H Beam rods w/ ARP 2000 bolts
Manley pistons
FRPP crankshaft
CNC and hand ported stage 3 heads w/ spun valves and radius 5 angle valve job
bronze valve guides
Manley oversize stainless steel valves
Billet oil pump gears
Billet trigger wheel
Complete ford gasket kit
Comp cams custom grind billet blower cams
ARP cam bolt
ARP balancer bolt
Moroso deep sump aluminum oil pan
FRPP high volume oil pump
Ported lower Intake manifold
NGK TR6 plugs
Custom painted valve covers
twin flex-a-lite electric fans

INDUCTION:

2.6 Kenne Bell with 2 pulley and belts (currently making 18lbs of boost on street tune)
JLP Power tube and cold air kit
SCT 2800 mass air
Kenne Bell big oval throttle body

EXHAUST:

kooks long tube headers
Bassani x pipe
Flowmaster big block catback

DRIVETRAIN:

built transmission
FTVB
2400 neil chance stall converter
FMS 3:73 gears

MISC:
full fuel system
bed mounted ice resevoir
twin marine trunk mounted batteries
Autometer boost, fuel pressure, wideband A/F
Scan gauge
SCT 6 position flip chip
sound system
custom painted accents
Fiberglass bed cover

the list goes on and on and on. As I said if you're serious you can contact me for further details. I don't have time for tire kickers either. Serious inquiries only please. There is triple what I'm asking invested in this truck and it stops traffic when it's out in town. Truck has run 10.90's before! Still has all the comforts of a daily driver like cruise and cold AC.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...g?t=1285899193
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...g?t=1285899193
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...g?t=1285899232
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...g?t=1285899248
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...g?t=1285899267
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...g?t=1285899330

VID
http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...0.mp4&newest=1

$18,000

1998ta__1991rs 10-04-2010 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by what'snext (Post 90900)

Many reputable people including Rick at Amazon

oxymoron

Matts94Z28 10-04-2010 01:42 AM

Why do I feel like that plate was on a mustang at one point. Nice truck though. GLWS.

Mike 10-04-2010 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by what'snext (Post 90900)

Many reputable people including Rick at Amazon

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1998ta__1991rs (Post 90904)
oxymoron

+1. Might want to delete that part of your post. You had me interested until I seen Amazon.

stackz 10-04-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 90909)
+1. Might want to delete that part of your post. You had me interested until I seen Amazon.

kinda curious about this? i'm assuming amazon is a local speed shop that I apparently dont know about and this rick dude is a douche that works there?

jmd 10-04-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stackz (Post 90914)
kinda curious about this? i'm assuming amazon is a local speed shop that I apparently dont know about and this rick dude is a douche that works there?

lol, here we go.

ElecTech 10-04-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by stackz (Post 90914)
kinda curious about this? i'm assuming amazon is a local speed shop that I apparently dont know about and this rick dude is a douche that works there?


They are in Pendelton, SC and best I can tell have performed rectal exams on a few of the members on here.

stackz 10-04-2010 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ElecTech (Post 90916)
They are in Anderson and best I can tell have "broke it off" in a few of the members on here.

oh ok, so up by clemson area folks then. just curious as i've been just starting to hunt for a shop that does dyno/tuning in charleston and been trying to learn the good/bad ones is all.

anyway, back on topic lol.

BigdaddyDupree 10-04-2010 09:43 AM

word is amazon sucks. ask randy lol

what'snext 10-04-2010 11:03 AM

I've been treated very well by Rick and the folks at amazon. I'd rather not turn this into a pissing match as it's easy to find horror stories about every shop or tuner if you dig enough. You're more than welcome to inspect the truck or take it to someone you trust. Either way please respect the nature of this thread. I don't think I'm being unfair by asking that much

jmd 10-04-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by what'snext (Post 90926)
I've been treated very well by Rick and the folks at amazon. I'd rather not turn this into a pissing match as it's easy to find horror stories about every shop or tuner if you dig enough. You're more than welcome to inspect the truck or take it to someone you trust. Either way please respect the nature of this thread. I don't think I'm being unfair by asking that much

very true. i have had a couple of shops fuck my stuff up. i finally found a good engine man and tuner. the truck looks good and if i were in the market .i would buy it. good luck with the sale.

DolSVT00 10-04-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigdaddyDupree (Post 90921)
word is amazon sucks. ask randy lol

Don't ask me, ask 80% of this forum that speak from personal experience. When you have a shop and the locals all say you are shit, you most likely have a couple corn's sticking out and smell like a turd.

Nice truck though, hopefully Rick hasn't molested it and it actually does what its supposed to do. Can't say I didn't warn him about posting that up on here, cause I tried.

It seam's to be a nice truck and there's no 2.6 KB trucks around here. I would hate to see it leave the area, and I'd like to see it run at one of our local tracks.

04ctd 10-04-2010 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 90930)
It seam's to be a nice truck and there's no 2.6 KB trucks around here. I would hate to see it leave the area, and I'd like to see it run at one of our local tracks.

what kind of HP/TQ/ET would a truck like that do?

DolSVT00 10-04-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 04ctd (Post 90931)
what kind of HP/TQ/ET would a truck like that do?

Properly tuned, high 600's HP and mid/low 700's tq. ET again that would depend on tune,weight and traction but its not unheard of for a truck like that to run mid to low 6's at 102-104 MPH and mid to low 10's in the 130's boost only and be fully Daily driveable with AC PS and 5000 lb towing capacity. Technically, that truck should easily do all of that or better.

Unfortunatly, most of them are tuned by tuners that I wouldn't let tune my lawnmower and are typically stuck in the mid to low 7's.

The OP says 649 HP and 10.90's et, just in comparison trucks with smaller blowers (2.3 liter) around here have made more HP and ET'd in the 10.50's. I would assume the tune for that Big Bore KB 2.6 is extremely conservative if it only ran 10.90's there's some of them in the 9's on boost.That is a verry good blower, much more impressive to me than the larger 3.4 whipple.

what'snext 10-04-2010 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 90932)
Properly tuned, high 600's HP and mid/low 700's tq. ET again that would depend on tune,weight and traction but its not unheard of for a truck like that to run mid to low 6's at 102-104 MPH and mid to low 10's in the 130's boost only and be fully Daily driveable with AC PS and 5000 lb towing capacity. Technically, that truck should easily do all of that or better.

Unfortunatly, most of them are tuned by tuners that I wouldn't let tune my lawnmower and are typically stuck in the mid to low 7's.

The OP says 649 HP and 10.90's et, just in comparison trucks with smaller blowers (2.3 liter) around here have made more HP and ET'd in the 10.50's. I would assume the tune for that Big Bore KB 2.6 is extremely conservative if it only ran 10.90's there's some of them in the 9's on boost.That is a verry good blower, much more impressive to me than the larger 3.4 whipple.

I have a dyno sheet for 646/912 right in front of me. That was on a 3" upper with 110

DolSVT00 10-04-2010 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by what'snext (Post 90941)
I have a dyno sheet for 646/912 right in front of me. That was on a 3" upper with 110

If it made that much TQ and that little HP its rich, thats safe, but there's alot more on the table.

Rich= TQ on these trucks.

what'snext 10-04-2010 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 90951)
If it made that much TQ and that little HP its rich, thats safe, but there's alot more on the table.

Rich= TQ on these trucks.

yes sir, it's def tuned safely on the rich side. Much prefer that than lean. Just goes to show there's more available

WWhittle 10-05-2010 12:08 AM

I love when I see someone say rich is safe!!

minytrker 10-05-2010 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by WWhittle (Post 90961)
I love when I see someone say rich is safe!!

LOL I was going to post the same thing.

DolSVT00 10-05-2010 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWhittle (Post 90961)
I love when I see someone say rich is safe!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by minytrker (Post 90962)
LOL I was going to post the same thing.

All depends on how rich and what context, if its 10.0-11.0 in closed loop your right. When I say rich What I mean is (in supercharged or turbo) 11.5-12.0 in closed loop. Lean to me is 12.5 up.

There's also open loop, where being too rich will do more harm, but again it would all depend on how much.

If he's making that much TQ, he's way rich, and if its tuned by Rick it doesn't surprise me and its probably all messed up, and that would explain why it has a built transmission as well, that's usually the first thing to go with his tunes.

what'snext 10-05-2010 09:14 AM

lol you guys love taking things out of context here I see. Look, some of you live close enough to come see the truck for yourselves. You should do that instead of formulating an opinion from behind a computer screen. If you have a tuner that you prefer using then use them. Hell I'd probably be willing to adjust my price to allow you to do so. I doubt anyone here is seriously interested though as is the case with most forums.

DolSVT00 10-05-2010 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by what'snext (Post 90971)
lol you guys love taking things out of context here I see. Look, some of you live close enough to come see the truck for yourselves. You should do that instead of formulating an opinion from behind a computer screen. If you have a tuner that you prefer using then use them. Hell I'd probably be willing to adjust my price to allow you to do so. I doubt anyone here is seriously interested though as is the case with most forums.

That couldn't be further from the truth, there are 2 people on this forum that in the last couple months have sold their heavily modified trucks on forums, there also have been quite a few trucks that have been bought outright or traded on this specific forum.

There are people on this forum that are looking for a truck currently aswell.

As a matter of fact, there are very few trucks on this site that were not bought off of a forum.

The reason this thread went off is because you mentioned a name that has "broken it off" in many of us. And most of us have spent unnecessary time and $$ trying to fix the problems that he caused. We are the local's, we know the trucks around here, and we know the shops around here.

what'snext 10-05-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 90975)
That couldn't be further from the truth, there are 2 people on this forum that in the last couple months have sold their heavily modified trucks on forums, there also have been quite a few trucks that have been bought outright or traded on this specific forum.

There are people on this forum that are looking for a truck currently aswell.

As a matter of fact, there are very few trucks on this site that were not bought off of a forum.

The reason this thread went off is because you mentioned a name that has "broken it off" in many of us. And most of us have spent unnecessary time and $$ trying to fix the problems that he caused. We are the local's, we know the trucks around here, and we know the shops around here.

as I've said....one shoe does not fit every foot. Rick has been building my cobra from the ground up and has done an amazing job so far with it and many other cars I've personally known. I could slander some VERY reputable tuners but I understand that my bad experience (blowing up a brand new forged motor) does not necessarily mean a bad one for someone else. That's foolish. If someone were really interested they would formulate their own opinion, not one based of someone else's issues. Anyways this thread is useless now so I'm fine with using my other resources to sell or trade.

bwelch 10-05-2010 11:23 AM

Mods move these comments before he gets all emotional!

what'snext 10-05-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bwelch (Post 90977)
Mods move these comments before he gets all emotional!

lol nah it's all good man. I don't get bent out of shape over forums. I've got plenty of interest in the truck. I'll be fine

DolSVT00 10-05-2010 12:12 PM

You should have told us that was proaudio (Jason's) truck, we know that truck. It went 10.90 on the 2.3 that used to be on there.

Mike, we've looked at that truck before, that's the guy that ended up getting your stock exhaust out of the trash can when we cut it off at the track that day. To my knowledge it wasn't tuned by Amazon when he had it, and if memory serves me right the motor was pretty sound and the truck was really clean.

He said on the other forum he'll take 16.5 for it............................................

what'snext 10-05-2010 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 90979)
You should have told us that was proaudio (Jason's) truck, we know that truck. It went 10.90 on the 2.3 that used to be on there.

Mike, we've looked at that truck before, that's the guy that ended up getting your stock exhaust out of the trash can when we cut it off at the track that day. To my knowledge it wasn't tuned by Amazon when he had it, and if memory serves me right the motor was pretty sound and the truck was really clean.

He said on the other forum he'll take 16.5 for it............................................

If I would have known you knew him I might have made the mention lol. It was tuned by injected engineering according to receipts. Again, at $16,500 I'm allowing plenty for you to have whoever you want tune the truck to your liking. As I said though if it doesn't sell outright at that price I've already got a trade in place for Saturday.

jmd 10-05-2010 01:45 PM

16,500 is a good price. someone needs to buy this truck. bwelch?

DolSVT00 10-05-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmd (Post 90984)
16,500 is a good price. someone needs to buy this truck. bwelch?

Its not a good price, its a steal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by what'snext (Post 90976)
as I've said....one shoe does not fit every foot. Rick has been building my cobra from the ground up and has done an amazing job so far with it and many other cars I've personally known. I could slander some VERY reputable tuners but I understand that my bad experience (blowing up a brand new forged motor) does not necessarily mean a bad one for someone else. That's foolish. If someone were really interested they would formulate their own opinion, not one based of someone else's issues. Anyways this thread is useless now so I'm fine with using my other resources to sell or trade.

BTW it wasn't just one of us that had bad experiences, that's the sad part of this. It was MOST of us, including me.

jmd 10-05-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 90985)
Its not a good price, its a steal.

then someone needs to steal it. :bigthumb:

Whaler 10-05-2010 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by what'snext (Post 90983)
If I would have known you knew him I might have made the mention lol. It was tuned by injected engineering according to receipts. Again, at $16,500 I'm allowing plenty for you to have whoever you want tune the truck to your liking. As I said though if it doesn't sell outright at that price I've already got a trade in place for Saturday.


Jason is a good guy and put a lot of time, effort and $$$ in that truck.

what'snext 10-05-2010 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 90985)
Its not a good price, its a steal.



BTW it wasn't just one of us that had bad experiences, that's the sad part of this. It was MOST of us, including me.

I'm sorry you guys dealt with that. Don't wish it on anyone. I'm serious guys if you intend to by this you have until Friday evening. Otherwise I hit the road to make the trade I have in place.

Cobra332 10-05-2010 11:26 PM

I have been looking for a Lightning for awhile now .. and came across this one through a google search..... For all of you who specialize in this truck .. The asking price this guy has i was wondering if anyone could tell me if its reasonable and also has anyone had any issues with the Ken Bell SC i have been running pro charger so im just trying to get some info .. Thanks

bwelch 10-06-2010 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by what'snext (Post 91006)
I'm sorry you guys dealt with that. Don't wish it on anyone. I'm serious guys if you intend to by this you have until Friday evening. Otherwise I hit the road to make the trade I have in place.

what are you gonna trade it for?

what'snext 10-06-2010 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bwelch (Post 91030)
what are you gonna trade it for?

A 93 notchback with a blown 2v and cash

ElecTech 10-06-2010 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra332 (Post 91027)
I have been looking for a Lightning for awhile now .. and came across this one through a google search..... For all of you who specialize in this truck .. The asking price this guy has i was wondering if anyone could tell me if its reasonable and also has anyone had any issues with the Ken Bell SC i have been running pro charger so im just trying to get some info .. Thanks

The KenneBell Units themselves are very reliable, if installed and cared for properly.

chrisheltra 10-06-2010 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ElecTech (Post 91037)
The KenneBell Units themselves are less reliable than other blowers on Lightnings, if installed and cared for properly.

Fixed

Anybody whos seriously thinking of buying this truck and doesn't at this price is a moron. Bottom line.

ElecTech 10-06-2010 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra (Post 91039)
Fixed

Anybody whos seriously thinking of buying this truck and doesn't at this price is a moron. Bottom line.

Definately has a lot of good stuff on it. I would buy it if I were in the market (or had any money at all) only because I know what it would cost to put something like that together and this saves you a bunch of time and money.

Cobra332 10-06-2010 03:42 PM

WhatsNext.. Would it be ok if i were to drive out your and possibly take the truck to a mechanic to look her over ? I have family out your side of town and know a few shops

what'snext 10-06-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobra332 (Post 91064)
WhatsNext.. Would it be ok if i were to drive out your and possibly take the truck to a mechanic to look her over ? I have family out your side of town and know a few shops

When?


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