How the Mustang is built-National Geographic
 

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I heard of double posting but in the same thread?!? LOL

Is this video different in some aspect? Other than the fact it requires one click to view either?

With it embedded you don't have to watch the vidio in another window. Mainly that would only be a factor for those of us using our phones or maybe someone would embed it just to be a douche. The real question is why watch a vidio on a mustang??? J/K.

Thanks...I'll keep that in mind.

Because with the 2013 Shelby..what else is there? not joking... :mrgreen:

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um..something that will hook up, turn, and go fast??

car & driver pretty much dismissed it, and raved about the 1LE camaro..which was much faster around VIR.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...p-2012-feature


Thanks to a revised shock, spring, and anti-roll-bar tune, the old SS's slightly soggy initial compliance is gone. In its place is tighter, but more graceful, body and wheel control.

The car gained a full second over the regular SS in the uphill esses of sector two, where confidence and grip led to an entry speed of 126.1 mph. Still more impressive is the 1LE's 115.8-mph average speed through the sector, a number that nearly matches the SS's peak sector speed of 116.2 mph. Very fast fact: The 1LE was only a tenth of a *second slower than the Ferrari 458 through the uphill esses.


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Ford Shelby GT500 • 3:00.6
At 662 horsepower, the Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 is the most powerful car we've tested at VIR. So why couldn't it put down a sub-three-minute lap? Why didn't it beat the heavier and less potent Camaro ZL1? It comes down to two related reasons: balance and traction.

Yes, the GT500 is lighter than the ZL1, but that's not the full story. Look at where it carries its weight—the GT500 puts 56.6 percent of its 3896 pounds over its front wheels. The ZL1 achieves a better balance with 52.9 percent of its mass resting up front. Nose-heavy, powerful, and rear-drive is a combination that makes putting power to the ground difficult. Just ask anyone driving a two-wheel-drive pickup in the snow.

As a result, with just 43.4 percent of its mass over its powered rear wheels, the GT500 couldn't accelerate as hard out of corners as the ZL1, couldn't get its full power down, couldn't turn its impressive horsepower into miles per hour. Still, the Shelby's turn-in grip is strong. In sector one, the GT500 matches the ZL1's peak roadholding. But at the corner's exit, the GT500 is 4.6 mph slower. Balance is part of the problem, and the GT500 also has narrower wheels and tires than the ZL1. On the track, the rear contact patches feel dime-sized.

Quick transitions upset the GT500 more than the ZL1 and cost time in the uphill esses. Good brakes are a plus, but the GT500 is a car that is not comfortable *cornering at the limit. VIR proves, once again, that handling can trump a superior power-to-weight ratio.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...3-class-page-5

Please tell me you have more resources than C&D who are about as biased as FOX NEWS and that the ZL1 beat the Shelby IN THE CURVES. Even on this board who the hell races at THAT TRACK...a few of us at best. Then around all muscle cars in general what % of us race in the curves? So how did they compare at the drag strip??

How is that at Leguna Seca the Shelby ran a 1:38.68 and the ZL1 ran 1:39.18? So if you use my source Motor Trend says that the Shelby beats the ZL1 in nearly ever aspect. I can also show you multiple sources where Obama is the best president EVA.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...0/viewall.html

I love this game..now you go :mrgreen:

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Really, if the gt500 is this good with a solid axle vs a fancy magnetic ride, imagine one with a irs or similar suspension to the zl1. It already gave spankings out all over the board. By the way, im pretty sure the name zl1 was originally a drag car, in which it fails hard at compared to the gt500. If you want a track car you build a nice NA car like the boss and 1le, not a heat soaking blower car like the gt500 and zl1.

LMFAO WINNER

Acceleration Shelby
Road Course Shelby
Magazine Preference ZL1

HA HA HA HA HA

everyone so far has said the ZL1 is a brazillion times nicer to drive and more fun...

That doesn't make it faster which to most of us is the point. Def not knocking another great car so please don't get that impression. I do think it looks hideous as if Batman designed it but performance wise an outstanding car. I'll take an 02 SS or classic in a heartbeat.

agreed