Important oil information for anyone.

TurboWS6 · 10-25-2012, 12:26 AM

Just putting this out there.

Backround a few years back the gov. made the oil manufactures cut down on the concentration of zinc in the oils today.

End result, over the past few years several things have started coming more frequent

There have been a rash of turbo failures across the board.
If you run a old school motor that's flat tappet you are now on borrowed time.

In the LS community:

LS7's are dropping exhaust valves due to valve guide failures.
Cam bearing failures have increased.
Lifter failures failures have increased.
Cam failures are up due to the above.
ect.

Please read below, it was written for the 4G63 crowd but most of the information is relevant to everyone on the site. It also lists comparisons of several different oils.

http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...otor%20Oil.pdf

What kind of failures do you guys know of that can be linked to oil among the other brands? What oil do you run and how has it worked for you.

Foose04 · 10-25-2012, 01:44 AM

Good info man. I posted that same stuff up on performancetrucks.net about a year ago.

FP has their shit together and those guys can build a mean turbo.

I run redline and Lucas. Vr-1 in a pinch, but swap all of them every 1500-2000 miles.

adamcs · 10-25-2012, 02:36 AM

I run schaeffers in my stuff and it works awesome, and it is very reasonably priced

Oceanside78 · 10-25-2012, 05:54 AM

I've had multiple lash adjuster (lifters in pushrod motors) fail in my old Cobra.

AverageJoe · 10-25-2012, 06:51 AM

I started using rp hps for that reason

k5hart · 10-25-2012, 06:53 AM

I have a flat tappet cam in my Blazer that I think is ruined due to this. I started running ZR-1 after researching this problem but I think the damage was already done. A roller retrofit will probably go back in.

ElecTech · 10-25-2012, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamcs

I run schaeffers in my stuff and it works awesome, and it is very reasonably priced

Same, 20W50 High Zinc race oil

ForceFed4g63 · 10-25-2012, 08:45 AM

That FP article has been around a while, good peeps over there. I've been running Mobil 1 for a while and never had any problems, but I think I'm going to switch to Brad Penn here for the next oil change. Goofy part is I have to run the big ass 5.0 Mustang oil filter on the SRT-4 lol.

RoadconeTuning · 10-25-2012, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foose04

Good info man. I posted that same stuff up on performancetrucks.net about a year ago.

FP has their shit together and those guys can build a mean turbo.

I run redline and Lucas. Vr-1 in a pinch, but swap all of them every 1500-2000 miles.

look at VR-1 again, they dropped all their good additives a few years ago, its just as worthless as regular Mobil1 now.

I cant remember which one it is but Mobil1 Extended Performance or the 15,000 mile stuff has high Zinc and whatever the other one was.

BIRDMAN · 10-25-2012, 11:01 AM

I've been using Rotella T-6.

///Mcompact · 10-25-2012, 11:22 AM

If I could get German Castrol here in Germany, I would (irony). It's only sold in Autozones, sold as a a 0W-30 (but is a heavy 30 grade), and doesn't conform to the gay SM industry standard. Damn good oil for non-racecarz and has been a benchmark for synthetic oils for years.

Make sure it has a red label and Made in Germany on the back (I think the regular garbage syntec/edge is exported from brazil).

For now, I run Mobil-1 5W-40 Turbo Diesel oil. I'll definitely run GC again when I get back to the States.

Pesce Nero · 10-25-2012, 11:45 AM

Rotella 15-40

98z-28camaro · 10-25-2012, 11:49 AM

i run mobile one 15w50 (zinc)....seems like the only the bottles that say racing on them are the ones that carry zinc

Matts94Z28 · 10-25-2012, 11:55 AM

O'reilly non-synthetic 10-40 here.

ForceFed4g63 · 10-25-2012, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matts94Z28

O'reilly non-synthetic 10-40 here.

Now we know why your shit's always on jackstands lol

Matts94Z28 · 10-25-2012, 12:02 PM

I haven't changed my oil in 2012 either. Lol

1SMKN99 · 10-25-2012, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceFed4g63

Now we know why your shit's always on jackstands lol

better not be on jackstands saturday, i want my chance at the unicorn!

ElecTech · 10-25-2012, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matts94Z28

O'reilly non-synthetic 10-40 here.

Storage oil. Plenty of preservatives.

Matts94Z28 · 10-25-2012, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1SMKN99

better not be on jackstands saturday, i want my chance at the unicorn!

bwelch · 10-25-2012, 12:27 PM

They sell zinc addative in a yellow bottle at all the part stores.

10-25-2012, 12:26 AM	#1
TurboWS6 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Rockingham, NC Posts: 799	Important oil information for anyone. Just putting this out there. Backround a few years back the gov. made the oil manufactures cut down on the concentration of zinc in the oils today. End result, over the past few years several things have started coming more frequent There have been a rash of turbo failures across the board. If you run a old school motor that's flat tappet you are now on borrowed time. In the LS community: LS7's are dropping exhaust valves due to valve guide failures. Cam bearing failures have increased. Lifter failures failures have increased. Cam failures are up due to the above. ect. Please read below, it was written for the 4G63 crowd but most of the information is relevant to everyone on the site. It also lists comparisons of several different oils. http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...otor%20Oil.pdf What kind of failures do you guys know of that can be linked to oil among the other brands? What oil do you run and how has it worked for you. __________________ [IMG][/IMG] 1999 WS6, 6.0L, S480, TH400, Dana 60 1967 GTO 496" Poncho stroker, 4 speed, 4:11s 2007 Hemi Ram 2013 Grand Caravan RT 1997 Civic

10-25-2012, 01:44 AM	#2
Foose04 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 965	Good info man. I posted that same stuff up on performancetrucks.net about a year ago. FP has their shit together and those guys can build a mean turbo. I run redline and Lucas. Vr-1 in a pinch, but swap all of them every 1500-2000 miles. __________________ 12 GMC Denali HD: 4x4, 12" Bullet Proof, 24x12 American Forces, 40x15.50 Toyo M/T's, h&s mini max, deleted, 5" axle dump, S&B intake,tractions bars, air bags. 04 GMC 1500RST: TMS Iron 347/S480/4l80E - 9.63@143.22 05 GMC 2500HD: LLY@372HP/669TQ, 4x4, 8" FabTech, 4.56 gears & 37" Toyo M/T's Last edited by Foose04; 10-25-2012 at 01:54 AM.

10-25-2012, 05:54 AM	#4
Oceanside78 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Fayetteville Posts: 214	I've had multiple lash adjuster (lifters in pushrod motors) fail in my old Cobra. __________________ 2002 Harley Davidson F150 Intake-C&L elbow-SBTB-L upper/snout-4# Lower-Bassani catted mid-Bassani Cat Back-VB-Diablo tuned Soon to be: 6# lower-SCT MAF-Custom Tune

10-25-2012, 08:45 AM	#8
ForceFed4g63 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Aiken Posts: 7,002	That FP article has been around a while, good peeps over there. I've been running Mobil 1 for a while and never had any problems, but I think I'm going to switch to Brad Penn here for the next oil change. Goofy part is I have to run the big ass 5.0 Mustang oil filter on the SRT-4 lol. __________________ 2000 WS6 2005 CTS-V 2004 Titan QC 4x4

10-25-2012, 11:01 AM	#10
BIRDMAN Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 2,943	I've been using Rotella T-6. __________________ *"I ran out of road, talent, and ideas all at the same time."*

10-25-2012, 02:36 AM	#3
adamcs Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: camp lejeune/ goose creek, sc Posts: 914	I run schaeffers in my stuff and it works awesome, and it is very reasonably priced

10-25-2012, 06:53 AM	#6
k5hart Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: James Island Posts: 277	I have a flat tappet cam in my Blazer that I think is ruined due to this. I started running ZR-1 after researching this problem but I think the damage was already done. A roller retrofit will probably go back in.

10-25-2012, 11:22 AM	#11
///Mcompact SQUIRREL OVERLORD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nunya bidness Posts: 1,382	If I could get German Castrol here in Germany, I would (irony). It's only sold in Autozones, sold as a a 0W-30 (but is a heavy 30 grade), and doesn't conform to the gay SM industry standard. Damn good oil for non-racecarz and has been a benchmark for synthetic oils for years. Make sure it has a red label and Made in Germany on the back (I think the regular garbage syntec/edge is exported from brazil). For now, I run Mobil-1 5W-40 Turbo Diesel oil. I'll definitely run GC again when I get back to the States. __________________ -Kiley

10-25-2012, 11:45 AM	#12
Pesce Nero Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,680	Rotella 15-40 __________________

10-25-2012, 11:49 AM	#13
98z-28camaro Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: murder beach sc Posts: 72	i run mobile one 15w50 (zinc)....seems like the only the bottles that say racing on them are the ones that carry zinc

10-25-2012, 11:55 AM	#14
Matts94Z28 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 12,039	O'reilly non-synthetic 10-40 here. __________________ Charleston Performance Solutions 4560 Rivers Ave. N. Charleston SC 29405 843-225-1142 https://www.facebook.com/CharlestonPerformanceSolutions www.facebook.com/Selepack

10-25-2012, 12:02 PM	#16
Matts94Z28 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 12,039	I haven't changed my oil in 2012 either. Lol __________________ Charleston Performance Solutions 4560 Rivers Ave. N. Charleston SC 29405 843-225-1142 https://www.facebook.com/CharlestonPerformanceSolutions www.facebook.com/Selepack

10-25-2012, 12:27 PM	#20
bwelch Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,774	They sell zinc addative in a yellow bottle at all the part stores. __________________

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