Blown 5.4 S-trim

Matts94Z28 · 11-11-2009, 02:20 PM

Saaaay I was looking at a mustang that has a built 5.4 w/ a s-trim on 16lbs in it. What should I look for? I know nothing about these damn mod motors but the guy is offering me a straight up trade for my purple car... yeah I have alot of time, but not much money in my car as of now. If you guys know me, I am all about taking what I have an making something off of it. The Mustang is a 1998 and looks like it only needs paint, which isnt an issue. The car is said to have made 498/500+ throught a built 5-speed and an 8.8.

What should I look for to ensure this is something I even want to consider?

slowgreen99 · 11-11-2009, 02:35 PM

Matt, I looked at the add and it doesnt say anything about it being forged. Stock they have good cranks, but shitty rods and pistons. Im sure a L owner can chime in on their exact limits, but 500ish is probably pushing it.

BAD BOB · 11-11-2009, 02:42 PM

Fuck that!!! get a VW

Matts94Z28 · 11-11-2009, 02:44 PM

This is what I was told VIA E-mail. He is sending me all the invoices, parts lists and dyno sheets tonight.

slowgreen99 · 11-11-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Matts94Z28

This is what I was told VIA E-mail. He is sending me all the invoices, parts lists and dyno sheets tonight.

aite...and that fox....NO. Its too simple/typical of every other.

DolSVT00 · 11-11-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by slowgreen99

aite...and that fox....NO. Its too simple/typical of every other.

if it's through a 5 speed (although I have no I dea why he would go through all the trouble of putting a 5 speed in when a t56 would have been better) It could have made 500 to the rear wheels on 16 lbs

Depending on what the 5.4 came out of it could have different compression ratio's , the Lightnings 5.4 had 8.5:1 and the N/A's were 9.0-9.5:1, they all had powdered metal rods good for throwing into the trash first chance you get, they all had forged pistons made by mahle they hold up pretty good unless you put a rod through them, most of them had forged kellogg cranks that were good to whatever power (over 1600hp) has been made to date (there were only a few that didn't have a forged crank)

500 is riding the line if the rods are stock, Lightning guys hit the wall at around 450 hp at the wheels through the auto that we have (around 550 at the crank), so with a manual , i'd say you could go a little further

LXtasy · 11-11-2009, 03:24 PM

dont do it. invoices and dyno sheets doesnt mean you will get that. and what 5 spd is it? i would also inspect where the tq boxes mount on the car. but pass on it. sounds to good to be true

slowgreen99 · 11-11-2009, 03:24 PM

its a 2001 L motor, and a TKO so the tranny is better than a t56 biatch!

Matts94Z28 · 11-11-2009, 03:27 PM

http://www.mautofied.com/1998-Ford-M...ing/100169531/

Dride76 · 11-11-2009, 03:41 PM

keep the Maro man

LStang · 11-11-2009, 04:01 PM

GG

clubracergt1 · 11-11-2009, 06:29 PM

Listen to Hal. He got boned by the "built motor swap" claim before. And, little Chris (08Racecraft's brother/Morey's son) can tell you some things about a TKO 500. They don't hold up to abuse very well.

08 Racecraft · 11-11-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by clubracergt1

Listen to Hal. He got boned by the "built motor swap" claim before. And, little Chris (08Racecraft's brother/Morey's son) can tell you some things about a TKO 500. They don't hold up to abuse very well.

I'm jimmy not Mike(91notch). Chris is my nephew.

91notch · 11-11-2009, 06:52 PM

Shaun The tko i had in the cobra held up fine. I had a centerforce dfx puck clutch and launched at at 5000 with 28" slicks and a 200 shot.

oh and 08racecraft is jimmy. lol

Matt just make sure you are getting what is said and you'll be fine. If you want i'll come look at it with you to make sure everything is legit/ in good shape.

bwelch · 11-11-2009, 07:03 PM

The windshield might leak also because of the 3 dents where the hood flew open and smack it. Even if though they put a new windshield in it. the channel the windshield sets in could be out of shape some causing a leak. I used to do auto glass and I have seen it happen before.

bwelch · 11-11-2009, 07:05 PM

And the add says nothing about the engine having anything forged so unless I saw a reciept for forged rods I wouldn't do it.

chrisheltra · 11-11-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bwelch

And the add says nothing about the engine having anything forged so unless I saw a reciept for forged rods I wouldn't do it.

Anybody can get a receipt for forged rods. I got one right here, but I bought mine.

I would personally stick with the Camaro.

Illusions · 11-11-2009, 07:26 PM

MOD MOTORS are EXPENSIVE to mod. stay with GM motors Ford rears.

DolSVT00 · 11-11-2009, 07:35 PM

01 lightning motor with 20k mikes sounds stock, and the tranny is a 3550?

bwelch · 11-11-2009, 07:47 PM

The question you got to ask your self is, Why would he want to traded a blown 5.4 mustang for your lt1 camaro? I would rather have the camaro so I wasn't talking shit about your camaro. But why would someone put that time and money in their car and want to trade it for a car with less power.

11-11-2009, 02:20 PM	#1
Matts94Z28 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 12,039	Blown 5.4 S-trim Saaaay I was looking at a mustang that has a built 5.4 w/ a s-trim on 16lbs in it. What should I look for? I know nothing about these damn mod motors but the guy is offering me a straight up trade for my purple car... yeah I have alot of time, but not much money in my car as of now. If you guys know me, I am all about taking what I have an making something off of it. The Mustang is a 1998 and looks like it only needs paint, which isnt an issue. The car is said to have made 498/500+ throught a built 5-speed and an 8.8. What should I look for to ensure this is something I even want to consider? __________________ Charleston Performance Solutions 4560 Rivers Ave. N. Charleston SC 29405 843-225-1142 https://www.facebook.com/CharlestonPerformanceSolutions www.facebook.com/Selepack

11-11-2009, 02:35 PM	#2
slowgreen99 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 7,740	Matt, I looked at the add and it doesnt say anything about it being forged. Stock they have good cranks, but shitty rods and pistons. Im sure a L owner can chime in on their exact limits, but 500ish is probably pushing it. __________________ M.R.E. Bad Bob Motorsports

11-11-2009, 02:42 PM	#3
BAD BOB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SUMMERVILLE Posts: 3,681	Fuck that!!! get a VW __________________ IM BAD BOB

11-11-2009, 02:44 PM	#4
Matts94Z28 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 12,039	This is what I was told VIA E-mail. He is sending me all the invoices, parts lists and dyno sheets tonight. __________________ Charleston Performance Solutions 4560 Rivers Ave. N. Charleston SC 29405 843-225-1142 https://www.facebook.com/CharlestonPerformanceSolutions www.facebook.com/Selepack

11-11-2009, 03:24 PM	#7
LXtasy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 9,564	dont do it. invoices and dyno sheets doesnt mean you will get that. and what 5 spd is it? i would also inspect where the tq boxes mount on the car. but pass on it. sounds to good to be true __________________

11-11-2009, 03:27 PM	#9
Matts94Z28 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 12,039	http://www.mautofied.com/1998-Ford-M...ing/100169531/ __________________ Charleston Performance Solutions 4560 Rivers Ave. N. Charleston SC 29405 843-225-1142 https://www.facebook.com/CharlestonPerformanceSolutions www.facebook.com/Selepack

11-11-2009, 03:41 PM	#10
Dride76 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 538	keep the Maro man __________________ Slowest white third gen in town!

11-11-2009, 04:01 PM	#11
LStang Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 74	GG __________________ Mustang stock suspension cut yo BUTT

11-11-2009, 06:29 PM	#12
clubracergt1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Great, white North (Chicagoland) Posts: 2,483	Listen to Hal. He got boned by the "built motor swap" claim before. And, little Chris (08Racecraft's brother/Morey's son) can tell you some things about a TKO 500. They don't hold up to abuse very well. __________________ This space for rent

11-11-2009, 06:52 PM	#14
91notch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: charleston, sc Posts: 1,131	Shaun The tko i had in the cobra held up fine. I had a centerforce dfx puck clutch and launched at at 5000 with 28" slicks and a 200 shot. oh and 08racecraft is jimmy. lol Matt just make sure you are getting what is said and you'll be fine. If you want i'll come look at it with you to make sure everything is legit/ in good shape. __________________ RTCTTFMF! Last edited by 91notch; 11-11-2009 at 06:56 PM.

11-11-2009, 07:03 PM	#15
bwelch Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,774	The windshield might leak also because of the 3 dents where the hood flew open and smack it. Even if though they put a new windshield in it. the channel the windshield sets in could be out of shape some causing a leak. I used to do auto glass and I have seen it happen before.

11-11-2009, 07:05 PM	#16
bwelch Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,774	And the add says nothing about the engine having anything forged so unless I saw a reciept for forged rods I wouldn't do it.

11-11-2009, 07:26 PM	#18
Illusions Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: In the Pits Posts: 2,247	MOD MOTORS are EXPENSIVE to mod. stay with GM motors Ford rears. __________________ Illusions Grafix A Pair of "Jackstand" 01 Xtreme Blazers

11-11-2009, 07:35 PM	#19
DolSVT00 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goose Creek Posts: 3,913	01 lightning motor with 20k mikes sounds stock, and the tranny is a 3550? __________________

11-11-2009, 07:47 PM	#20
bwelch Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,774	The question you got to ask your self is, Why would he want to traded a blown 5.4 mustang for your lt1 camaro? I would rather have the camaro so I wasn't talking shit about your camaro. But why would someone put that time and money in their car and want to trade it for a car with less power.