14 bolt Rear Swap

Foose04 · 05-16-2013, 02:02 PM

Hey guys, looking at my options to swap over to a 14 bolt from my 10. Seems like a smart/safe thing to do at this point.

I was told these are my donors for a direct 6 lug swap...

04-06 VHO trucks
05+ 2wd SSS trucks
06-07 GMT800 Vmax trucks 2wd and 4wd
07-09 GMT900 Vmax trucks 2wd and 4wd
09+ 6.2 equipped trucks both NHT and Denalis
GMT900 SUVs equipped with the 6.2 like Denalis and Escalades

Found this on Craigs.

GM 14 bolt, 3.42's and 6 lug
http://columbia.craigslist.org/bar/3768960708.html

I called and believes it a fit for me, but he's not sure what it came out of othen then a light 2500 duty. He says it was match to his 95 silverado so that makes me wonder if it's still match for me.

Says its got the GM POSI as well, I know the 10 bolt one was crap, is 14 bolt a good unit? It's a drum setup, how bad is swap to disc?

Shit load of questions but thanks for the help. He's going to send me some pic's soon.

Thx -Rob

blkscls1z · 05-16-2013, 02:22 PM

I would say stay away from the TBSS rear because of the odd bolt pattern. Nothing else interchanges besides other gmt360 vehicles (envoy, bravada etc) so drag wheels would have to be custom made.

Foose04 · 05-16-2013, 02:33 PM

Yeah I want something that works with my Bogarts. Thanks for the heads up..

Here's the pic's he sent me and god bless, looks like it's off a damn railroad train. Brackets look correct though. Guys at Redline interested in a clean up/ disc conversion job next week lol.

Fo'Free bling included...

BigdaddyDupree · 05-16-2013, 03:08 PM

I had a 14 bolt full floater in my k5 and it was a simple disk brake conversion. I bought the brackets and they bolted on. The calipers were off the front of a 75 3/4 ton truck. It turned out nice I never had a problem.

94zson · 05-16-2013, 04:35 PM

I dont know if that one has c-clips or not. Also are you looking for disc brakes? It is not like any of the 14 bolt free-floating units I have in my work truck fleet or on my 2500HD.

Foose04 · 05-16-2013, 04:44 PM

I'd like it come with disc brakes, but also willing adapt it over to disc if need be.

MARTYROBBINS · 05-16-2013, 05:10 PM

Silverado ss awd i think will fit

Foose04 · 05-16-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MARTYROBBINS

Silverado ss awd i think will fit

AWD = 10 bolt
2wd = 14 bolt

Chillerman · 05-16-2013, 05:26 PM

I would be concerned about the stock axles with your power level unless you plan to change them anyways.

ShawnBoyMoody · 05-16-2013, 05:39 PM

Yeah thats an older C-Clip version of the 14 bolt. Weaksauce compared to the full floater (real) 14 bolt. Of course you wont want eight lug or the weight that comes along with it. What you should be looking for (for a bolt in dealio) is the newer AAM axles that come in the newer chevy trucks...Again a big old heavy turd to have to pull around. I'd be looking at a nice nine inch ford axle myself....Especially if were ballin like a Melcher.

Foose04 · 05-16-2013, 07:49 PM

Shawn yeah thats a 9.5" setup, not a 10.5. However from what i'm reading the most I need to do move the spring perches 2" and its good to go. Next would be getting the disc setup on there but that seems to be a pretty common swap.

That 9" is going to need pretty much custom everything to work.

Kwiksilver · 05-16-2013, 09:30 PM

http://www.gdi4x4.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=596

Foose04 · 05-16-2013, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwiksilver

http://www.gdi4x4.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=596

Requires a login sir!

Kwiksilver · 05-16-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Foose04

Requires a login sir!

It's a van width 14 bolt for $200

Foose04 · 05-16-2013, 10:14 PM

Simple enough.. hmmm.

http://www.performancetrucks.net/for...f-swap-441553/

ShawnBoyMoody · 05-16-2013, 10:37 PM

Might need that muh damn self. He's looking for a semi-floater 14. Benito's is prolly a FF.

svtguy · 05-17-2013, 04:51 AM

little info/kinda what you want/doing i guess. trying to help..

http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...s/viewall.html

when i read other race forums or google how to not break 10bolt. the people are posting good results with upgraded carrier and 30spline moser axles spool and moser pinion yoke.

TurboWS6 · 05-17-2013, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svtguy

little info/kinda what you want/doing i guess. trying to help..

http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...s/viewall.html

when i read other race forums or google how to not break 10bolt. the people are posting good results with upgraded carrier and 30spline moser axles spool and moser pinion yoke.

He's trying to get something that will hold up to 900 plus HP and do 9's 1/4 mile reliably. Also pull a boat.

svtguy · 05-17-2013, 08:21 AM

according to forums/bracket racers what i posted will hold his power and some. i used to have a mud bog fad. i went through alot of shit breakin and that was with a dana 60 in a half ton alrdy. when i went mini spool/moser axles with yukon yokes my problems left the rear end and moved to driveshaft. and my neighbors ranger 2wd manual launches a 36 contender on trips on a high tide. so yea.. just my experience. but im the least experienced around in all this race/performance talk. im trying to learn daily!!

svtguy · 05-17-2013, 08:28 AM

would this work for foose? looking for complete like this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Chevrol...d790c9&vxp=mtr

05-16-2013, 02:02 PM	#1
Foose04 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 965	14 bolt Rear Swap Hey guys, looking at my options to swap over to a 14 bolt from my 10. Seems like a smart/safe thing to do at this point. I was told these are my donors for a direct 6 lug swap... 04-06 VHO trucks 05+ 2wd SSS trucks 06-07 GMT800 Vmax trucks 2wd and 4wd 07-09 GMT900 Vmax trucks 2wd and 4wd 09+ 6.2 equipped trucks both NHT and Denalis GMT900 SUVs equipped with the 6.2 like Denalis and Escalades Found this on Craigs. GM 14 bolt, 3.42's and 6 lug http://columbia.craigslist.org/bar/3768960708.html I called and believes it a fit for me, but he's not sure what it came out of othen then a light 2500 duty. He says it was match to his 95 silverado so that makes me wonder if it's still match for me. Says its got the GM POSI as well, I know the 10 bolt one was crap, is 14 bolt a good unit? It's a drum setup, how bad is swap to disc? Shit load of questions but thanks for the help. He's going to send me some pic's soon. Thx -Rob __________________ 12 GMC Denali HD: 4x4, 12" Bullet Proof, 24x12 American Forces, 40x15.50 Toyo M/T's, h&s mini max, deleted, 5" axle dump, S&B intake,tractions bars, air bags. 04 GMC 1500RST: TMS Iron 347/S480/4l80E - 9.63@143.22 05 GMC 2500HD: LLY@372HP/669TQ, 4x4, 8" FabTech, 4.56 gears & 37" Toyo M/T's

05-16-2013, 02:22 PM	#2
blkscls1z Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Between Goose Creek & Moncks Corner Posts: 2,310	I would say stay away from the TBSS rear because of the odd bolt pattern. Nothing else interchanges besides other gmt360 vehicles (envoy, bravada etc) so drag wheels would have to be custom made. __________________ Last edited by blkscls1z; 05-16-2013 at 02:28 PM.

05-16-2013, 02:33 PM	#3
Foose04 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 965	Yeah I want something that works with my Bogarts. Thanks for the heads up.. Here's the pic's he sent me and god bless, looks like it's off a damn railroad train. Brackets look correct though. Guys at Redline interested in a clean up/ disc conversion job next week lol. Fo'Free bling included... __________________ 12 GMC Denali HD: 4x4, 12" Bullet Proof, 24x12 American Forces, 40x15.50 Toyo M/T's, h&s mini max, deleted, 5" axle dump, S&B intake,tractions bars, air bags. 04 GMC 1500RST: TMS Iron 347/S480/4l80E - 9.63@143.22 05 GMC 2500HD: LLY@372HP/669TQ, 4x4, 8" FabTech, 4.56 gears & 37" Toyo M/T's

05-16-2013, 03:08 PM	#4
BigdaddyDupree Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MACEDONIA Posts: 4,967	I had a 14 bolt full floater in my k5 and it was a simple disk brake conversion. I bought the brackets and they bolted on. The calipers were off the front of a 75 3/4 ton truck. It turned out nice I never had a problem. __________________ . What you wanna do?

05-16-2013, 04:44 PM	#6
Foose04 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 965	I'd like it come with disc brakes, but also willing adapt it over to disc if need be. __________________ 12 GMC Denali HD: 4x4, 12" Bullet Proof, 24x12 American Forces, 40x15.50 Toyo M/T's, h&s mini max, deleted, 5" axle dump, S&B intake,tractions bars, air bags. 04 GMC 1500RST: TMS Iron 347/S480/4l80E - 9.63@143.22 05 GMC 2500HD: LLY@372HP/669TQ, 4x4, 8" FabTech, 4.56 gears & 37" Toyo M/T's

05-16-2013, 04:35 PM	#5
94zson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ladson Posts: 632	I dont know if that one has c-clips or not. Also are you looking for disc brakes? It is not like any of the 14 bolt free-floating units I have in my work truck fleet or on my 2500HD.

05-16-2013, 05:10 PM	#7
MARTYROBBINS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NORTH CHARLESTON Posts: 593	Silverado ss awd i think will fit

05-16-2013, 05:26 PM	#9
Chillerman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Goose Creek Posts: 1,232	I would be concerned about the stock axles with your power level unless you plan to change them anyways. __________________ 88 Mustang LX mild 302, no laughing gas, and the rest is secret. Best 1/8th 7.843 @ 87.98, best 1/4 12.427 @ 111.20, best 60 1.601 89 Mustang LX wheels up @ Pinks All Out

05-16-2013, 05:39 PM	#10
ShawnBoyMoody Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the lab.... Posts: 8,159	Yeah thats an older C-Clip version of the 14 bolt. Weaksauce compared to the full floater (real) 14 bolt. Of course you wont want eight lug or the weight that comes along with it. What you should be looking for (for a bolt in dealio) is the newer AAM axles that come in the newer chevy trucks...Again a big old heavy turd to have to pull around. I'd be looking at a nice nine inch ford axle myself....Especially if were ballin like a Melcher. __________________ The Krusty Koupe "Luck favors the oblivious, and boy am I lucky!"

05-16-2013, 07:49 PM	#11
Foose04 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 965	Shawn yeah thats a 9.5" setup, not a 10.5. However from what i'm reading the most I need to do move the spring perches 2" and its good to go. Next would be getting the disc setup on there but that seems to be a pretty common swap. That 9" is going to need pretty much custom everything to work. __________________ 12 GMC Denali HD: 4x4, 12" Bullet Proof, 24x12 American Forces, 40x15.50 Toyo M/T's, h&s mini max, deleted, 5" axle dump, S&B intake,tractions bars, air bags. 04 GMC 1500RST: TMS Iron 347/S480/4l80E - 9.63@143.22 05 GMC 2500HD: LLY@372HP/669TQ, 4x4, 8" FabTech, 4.56 gears & 37" Toyo M/T's

05-16-2013, 09:30 PM	#12
Kwiksilver Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 475	http://www.gdi4x4.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=596 __________________ 66 ford f100 shoptruck. 351 cleveland 4v, CJ heads, holley 750, toploader 4spd, rust.

05-16-2013, 10:14 PM	#15
Foose04 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 965	Simple enough.. hmmm. http://www.performancetrucks.net/for...f-swap-441553/ __________________ 12 GMC Denali HD: 4x4, 12" Bullet Proof, 24x12 American Forces, 40x15.50 Toyo M/T's, h&s mini max, deleted, 5" axle dump, S&B intake,tractions bars, air bags. 04 GMC 1500RST: TMS Iron 347/S480/4l80E - 9.63@143.22 05 GMC 2500HD: LLY@372HP/669TQ, 4x4, 8" FabTech, 4.56 gears & 37" Toyo M/T's

05-16-2013, 10:37 PM	#16
ShawnBoyMoody Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the lab.... Posts: 8,159	Might need that muh damn self. He's looking for a semi-floater 14. Benito's is prolly a FF. __________________ The Krusty Koupe "Luck favors the oblivious, and boy am I lucky!"

05-17-2013, 04:51 AM	#17
svtguy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: ladys island SC Posts: 215	little info/kinda what you want/doing i guess. trying to help.. http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...s/viewall.html when i read other race forums or google how to not break 10bolt. the people are posting good results with upgraded carrier and 30spline moser axles spool and moser pinion yoke.

05-17-2013, 08:21 AM	#19
svtguy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: ladys island SC Posts: 215	according to forums/bracket racers what i posted will hold his power and some. i used to have a mud bog fad. i went through alot of shit breakin and that was with a dana 60 in a half ton alrdy. when i went mini spool/moser axles with yukon yokes my problems left the rear end and moved to driveshaft. and my neighbors ranger 2wd manual launches a 36 contender on trips on a high tide. so yea.. just my experience. but im the least experienced around in all this race/performance talk. im trying to learn daily!!

05-17-2013, 08:28 AM	#20
svtguy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: ladys island SC Posts: 215	would this work for foose? looking for complete like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Chevrol...d790c9&vxp=mtr