iraq war: us soldier throws his medals and stars!!! and quits

[04ctd]

sounds like a war to me.

either we do that on their doorstep, or they do it on ours.

[FRDnemesis]

There are G.I.'s like him after every conflict. This is the norm; everyone deals with it in different ways.

[///Mcompact]

Originally Posted by 04ctd

sounds like a war to me.

This.

I don't know why anyone thinks we are so advanced (socially)..that war is some grotesque idea. We still have people ripped out of their cars and shot in the face in the middle of the streets here in this "first-world".

No amount of I-phone apps or facebook status updates will advance us to the point where nations will set aside their shady agendas and verbally handle their squabbles. "War is hell".

If it wasn't for the fucking media we would have dealt with Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq much faster and with fewer American casualties. I, for one, say fuck the media. Just like anything contracted...you make a request of WHAT you need done NOT HOW you want it done. You want us to go to war and bring the other country to it's knees? Fine..but don't tell us how.

I don't feel there is another country that cares more for collateral damage like the U.S.. Check out how some of the other allies handle business down range. They don't fuck around. They value the shit out of their troops and give a back seat to public opinion back home (because their citizens seem to understand that war is 'war'). The US Soldier/Marine has to bend to the will of our audience that is the ever-wavering U.S. public opinion. The current ROE reflects that.

Now, I am not going to argue what war/police action is justifiable..just that when our military is called-up to "go to war" that they are allowed to do just that without tags attached. Give them an objective, stand the fuck back and wait for results. Don't nitpick or you will add to the U.S. death-toll and time it takes to achieve the objective.

Marines are bad motherfuckers and need to stay bad motherfuckers. They ain't the peace corps.

-Seacrest out

[WWhittle]

Originally Posted by ///Mcompact

This.

I don't know why anyone thinks we are so advanced (socially)..that war is some grotesque idea. We still have people ripped out of their cars and shot in the face in the middle of the streets here in this "first-world".

No amount of I-phone apps or facebook status updates will advance us to the point where nations will set aside their shady agendas and verbally handle their squabbles. "War is hell".

If it wasn't for the fucking media we would have dealt with Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq much faster and with fewer American casualties. I, for one, say fuck the media. Just like anything contracted...you make a request of WHAT you need done NOT HOW you want it done. You want us to go to war and bring the other country to it's knees? Fine..but don't tell us how.

I don't feel there is another country that cares more for collateral damage like the U.S.. Check out how some of the other allies handle business down range. They don't fuck around. They value the shit out of their troops and give a back seat to public opinion back home (because their citizens seem to understand that war is 'war'). The US Soldier/Marine has to bend to the will of our audience that is the ever-wavering U.S. public opinion. The current ROE reflects that.

Now, I am not going to argue what war/police action is justifiable..just that when our military is called-up to "go to war" that they are allowed to do just that without tags attached. Give them an objective, stand the fuck back and wait for results. Don't nitpick or you will add to the U.S. death-toll and time it takes to achieve the objective.

Marines are bad motherfuckers and need to stay bad motherfuckers. They ain't the peace corps.

-Seacrest out

AMEN! Very well said!