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SWThomas
08-24-2007, 08:39 PM
Has anyone seen these up close? I know they're not real CF, but if the pattern was close to the DGM pieces it would compliment them pretty well. They're about 3/4 of the way down...

http://www.karkraft.com/valve_covers.htm

chrisheltra
08-24-2007, 08:42 PM
Unless Im looking at it wrong all the ones near the bottom say for 4.6

slow04
08-24-2007, 09:37 PM
Unless Im looking at it wrong all the ones near the bottom say for 4.6 :D Built motors have 4.6 heads

05Saleen
08-24-2007, 09:43 PM
4.6 32 valve cobra engines. 1996-2004 The Mustang Cobra is a 32 valve 4 cam 4.6 block.

chrisheltra
08-24-2007, 09:44 PM
Unless Im looking at it wrong all the ones near the bottom say for 4.6 :D Built motors have 4.6 heads

Well damn you learn someting new everyday. Or not!

05Saleen
08-24-2007, 09:49 PM
The new 07 Shelby Cobra GT 500 has the 5.4 Engine.

Mike
08-24-2007, 10:45 PM
:D Built motors have 4.6 heads

Not necessarily :poke:

4.6 heads also known as "Romeo" heads are used on our motors. A lot of builders still use the 5.4 "Windsor" heads.

Zacharyx
08-24-2007, 11:51 PM
heads where not designated as 4.6 or 5.4. 2v heads on a mustang are the same as the ones on a truck except for cams. If you want the very best flowing 2v heads find a set of the SVO heads and have Steen Racing work them, you guys will lose a good bit of compression so you can add lots of boost

Mike
08-25-2007, 12:10 AM
heads where not designated as 4.6 or 5.4. 2v heads on a mustang are the same as the ones on a truck except for cams.

There are a few other differences between the Romeo & Windsor heads. 1st off the Windsor used 13 bolt valve covers and the Romeos only had 11. Not sure if all but I do know some Romeo heads came with cam girdles instead of caps like the Windsor.

I'm pretty sure all Lightning 5.4(2v) motors came with Windsor heads, and all Mustang GT 4.6(2v) motors came with Romeo heads. That leads me to believe that they were designated 4.6 or 5.4. Although like you point out they are interchangeable.

Zacharyx
08-25-2007, 12:19 AM
I am not saying there are not difference, just that on head was not meant for the 4.6 and one for the 5.4. Mustangs had the Romeo engine 96-98 and 02-04, and the windsor between. I could list alot of difference( bolt on vs. press on cam gears for one) but that is not my point, just that heads where not built for the 2 engine sizes. Either head when worked will equal the other the biggest consideration to think of is if you want to buy new cam covers if you go with ones other than what was on your engine.

Zacharyx
08-25-2007, 12:29 AM
I'm pretty sure all Lightning 5.4(2v) motors came with Windsor heads

I think it would be safer to say truck engines 4.6 or 5.4 came with Windsor heads

Mike
08-25-2007, 01:09 AM
I think it would be safer to say truck engines 4.6 or 5.4 came with Windsor heads


Not for me cause I didn't know that :oops:

Thanks for the info. Like Chris, I learn something new every day. :D

Zacharyx
08-25-2007, 01:12 AM
I have never figured out why they made the lightning a 2v anyway. It is hard to make these heads flow to feed the 4.6 much less it's big brother.

Mike
08-25-2007, 01:19 AM
I have never figured out why they made the lightning a 2v anyway. It is hard to make these heads flow to feed the 4.6 much less it's big brother.

JLP is making 1500 HP with 2v heads. I make close to 600. Both with forced induction. I'm sure 4v would be better, but 2v are nice also. I would of rather seen better rods in the lightning over 4v heads.

Zacharyx
08-25-2007, 02:20 AM
Rods would have been nice as well as forged pistons, I could be wrong but aren't the stock pistons still Hyperpathetic, just with a ceramic coating?

Slowleen
08-25-2007, 02:58 PM
99/00 mustang gt's used windsor heads w/ an 8bolt flywheel, the heads are interchangable, and supposedly* the windsors flow a little better