Officers killed

[Harry]

I thought this would be a good read for all you cop haters.

Enjoy!!!

http://www.odmp.org/

[namewastaken_0_0]

I thought this would be a good read for all you cop haters.

Enjoy!!!

http://www.odmp.org/

The first person there was this.....

Corrections Officer Craig Orrell suffered a fatal heart attack while jogging during an annual physical fitness test at the Edmundo Mireles Academy in Beeville, Texas.



I don't think the cop haters want cops dead...

[csikx]

The first person there was this.....

Corrections Officer Craig Orrell suffered a fatal heart attack while jogging during an annual physical fitness test at the Edmundo Mireles Academy in Beeville, Texas.

Your point?

[DolSVT00]

I don't think the cop haters want cops dead...

None of us want to see anyone dead I'm sure.

The problem is, with some people you give them authority and training and their perception of the job that they are supposed to do evolves into what they want to believe their job is, when actually they are incapable of performing any job with any kind of integrity.

Sounds like a mouth full but its the same thing with those few soldiers that join the military with honorable intentions but yet end up using their license to kill on innocent people and not the actual enemy.

Cops are no different, while there are good ones that are worth well more than what their paid and deserve more respect than what they get, there's an equal amount of worthless vegetation that totes a badge.

[namewastaken_0_0]

None of us want to see anyone dead I'm sure.

The problem is, with some people you give them authority and training and their perception of the job that they are supposed to do evolves into what they want to believe their job is, when actually they are incapable of performing any job with any kind of integrity.

Sounds like a mouth full but its the same thing with those few soldiers that join the military with honorable intentions but yet end up using their license to kill on innocent people and not the actual enemy.

Cops are no different, while there are good ones that are worth well more than what their paid and deserve more respect than what they get, there's an equal amount of worthless vegetation that totes a badge.


It's like I saw in the news, I think it was Cottageville Police killed the mayor or something? The officer was fired.....not once....not twice.....but 4 times from other police offices.......I mean really....



btw, brings me to a question.....how many times do you hit the lie detector and psych eval as a police officer? Just when you join?

[Shane361]

What's next? An anti-Military thread?

[Harry]

What's next? An anti-Military thread?

Probably so. These guys are equal opportunist haters.

[Illusions]

What's next? An anti-Military thread?

Welcome Back! It seems to be the trend here lately.

[Harry]

None of us want to see anyone dead I'm sure.

The problem is, with some people you give them authority and training and their perception of the job that they are supposed to do evolves into what they want to believe their job is, when actually they are incapable of performing any job with any kind of integrity.

Sounds like a mouth full but its the same thing with those few soldiers that join the military with honorable intentions but yet end up using their license to kill on innocent people and not the actual enemy.

Cops are no different, while there are good ones that are worth well more than what their paid and deserve more respect than what they get, there's an equal amount of worthless vegetation that totes a badge.

And after I post that site, this is what you spit out. If all you guys want to do is focus on is the negative side of life, then have fun.

[KRYPTONITE]

Harry you taking a simple post about how cops came and broke up a meet for no real reason, to now postin threads about cops dieing, you have completely missed the whole point of that thread, I hope you go back and re-read the whole thing very slow and maybe you will see what points where trying to get made, not that they want cops dead!!!!!

[LXtasy]

I think harry posted the link because in the other thread it was perceived that many cops misuse their powers instead of doing good. I haven't clicked the link, but I am sure many have died while they were working

[Shane361]

Welcome Back! It seems to be the trend here lately.

Thanks Hal! Need to stop by and see you one night soon!

[Illusions]

Thanks Hal! Need to stop by and see you one night soon!

:bigthumb: sounds good!

[Harry]

I think harry posted the link because in the other thread it was perceived that many cops misuse their powers instead of doing good. I haven't clicked the link, but I am sure many have died while they were working

Excatly.

[WWhittle]

None of us want to see anyone dead I'm sure.

The problem is, with some people you give them authority and training and their perception of the job that they are supposed to do evolves into what they want to believe their job is, when actually they are incapable of performing any job with any kind of integrity.

Sounds like a mouth full but its the same thing with those few soldiers that join the military with honorable intentions but yet end up using their license to kill on innocent people and not the actual enemy.

Cops are no different, while there are good ones that are worth well more than what their paid and deserve more respect than what they get, there's an equal amount of worthless vegetation that totes a badge.

That is absolutely ridiculous and you could say that about any person in any occupation. The chicks that work the counter at McDonalds aren't very nice either. The difference between cops and everyone else is that cops spend their time chasing lowlifes, getting lied to, spit on, cussed at, etc etc all the while getting bashed by unappreciative people like you who like to generalize. The amount of shit that they have to put up with, I don't blame them if they do have a little bit of an attitude. They can't win either way.

Harry you taking a simple post about how cops came and broke up a meet for no real reason, to now postin threads about cops dieing, you have completely missed the whole point of that thread, I hope you go back and re-read the whole thing very slow and maybe you will see what points where trying to get made, not that they want cops dead!!!!!

They broke up the party because you guys are on private property and what you are doing is against the law. I don't understand why you guys don't get that. Sure, it's not like you are out raping women and children, but it's still against the law and you are still on private property. I realize that most of you aren't doing anything other than hanging out, but it's still against the law, it's still private property. When I drive down I-26 going 75-80mph, I don't really think that's a big deal either, but if I get a ticket I sure as hell can't bitch about it, I knew that I wasn't suppose to be doing it.



This whole discussion reminds me of Facebook post that I see all the time:

"This asshole cop just gave me a ticket for going 85 in a 55, don't they have anything better to do?"

or

"I got fucked up last night and was puking on the sidewalk and this cop arrested be for public intoxication- what a dickhead!"


Anybody see the problem with all that? LOL

[ForceFed4g63]

Amen Wes.

[KRYPTONITE]

I not getting into a pissing contest about this, I wasnt even gonna post, but What alot of people are saying is just like Brandon post, I dont go out there alot most of the time im racing on saturday, but somtimes a cop can ride though there and not say anything or stop and say yall be careful and pick of your trash, then every once in a blue moon, you get a cop to come rollen threw there acting all billy bad ass telling everyone to get in there cars and move out NOW!!!!! which is BS, I understand its private property, and the point Im just saying is there is a difference, and not all the cops a DICKS, but some get a real HARD on when they feel like they can get the upper hand and just be dicks,

I didnt have a problem with leaving they told us to go and I left and went home( well after a few races against ShawnBoy:hysterical:)

But If they come out and say leave Im gone No use to ask Why or for them to give me a reason, hell been down that road before with a cop, just got done putting my tranny in my car figured I would drive it around and put some miles on the car (not doing nothing stupid) just driving, when I decided to pull over In a parking lot to just check everything over, (still not doing anything wrong, I was under my car just checking things over with a flash light when A cop rolled up and ask me what I was doing, I told him I was just checking everything over making sure there wasnt a problem, He told me to get in my car and leave, ( I was on the phone with brandon also, He heard the whole conversation,) I told the cop that wasnt a problem I would leave, I then asked him was there a reason He wanted me to leave and if I did anything wrong, boy o boy was that the wrond question to ask, he slammed his car in park, threw his seat belt off and got in my face and told me to get my ass in the car and leave that he didnt have to give me a reason, I said no problem In shock that he was acting like this, I had my hood off and was trying to put it back on the car, I told the cop that I wasnt doing anything wrong and he told me If i said another word I was going to jail, I asked him for what reason, boy o boy thats #2 wrong question to ask, he got back in my face yelling, everyone in the parking lot was just looking at this cop as he made a ass out of himself, I was trying to put the hood pins on and had a hard time because this dick head was still in my face, after I got all the pins in, and was still trying to leave and couldnt even get in my car because he was in my face, I finally go in and sat down, I then asked him what is name was, (note #3 bad question to ask a cop) He told me thats it get out the car That I was going to jail, we went back in forth I told him I wasnt doing anything wrong, that I was leaving, when I left he rode my bumper the whole way down rivers, and then floored it and passed me like a dumb ass!! I not saying all cops are bad, And Im am thankful for the ones that do there job!! so dont get me wrong Its just the ones that once they get there badge there the baddest MOFO's on the planet

That is absolutely ridiculous and you could say that about any person in any occupation. The chicks that work the counter at McDonalds aren't very nice either. The difference between cops and everyone else is that cops spend their time chasing lowlifes, getting lied to, spit on, cussed at, etc etc all the while getting bashed by unappreciative people like you who like to generalize. The amount of shit that they have to put up with, I don't blame them if they do have a little bit of an attitude. They can't win either way.



They broke up the party because you guys are on private property and what you are doing is against the law. I don't understand why you guys don't get that. Sure, it's not like you are out raping women and children, but it's still against the law and you are still on private property. I realize that most of you aren't doing anything other than hanging out, but it's still against the law, it's still private property. When I drive down I-26 going 75-80mph, I don't really think that's a big deal either, but if I get a ticket I sure as hell can't bitch about it, I knew that I wasn't suppose to be doing it.



This whole discussion reminds me of Facebook post that I see all the time:

"This asshole cop just gave me a ticket for going 85 in a 55, don't they have anything better to do?"

or

"I got fucked up last night and was puking on the sidewalk and this cop arrested be for public intoxication- what a dickhead!"


Anybody see the problem with all that? LOL

[Harry]

You guys need to understand something. 95% of the people the police officers deal with are the scum of the earth, have attitudes, want to harm them in some way shape or form. It is rare that my wife comes home and says guess what, someone actually thanked me for doing something for them. Yes, they get paid to do the job they do. But, hear is something for you to think about. Most of the people in the world no when they leave the house that they are going to return back that evening. When I leave in the morning and tell my my good bye and that I love her, that it could be the last time I see her. All to protect ans servfe others. Think about that tomorrow when you leave and say good bye to your spouse.

[gearmesh, inc.]

Here's a thought to ponder for all the good cops out there: You know damn well who's the assholes within your ranks that abuse their authority. Don't you give a rats ass enough about the law abiding public's view of the police in general, or is it just more comfortable for ALL of you, good cop and bad cop, to just stay quiet and reap the benefits of your gifted status behind the thin blue line?

If the good cops actually outnumbered the bad cops, the force would be self cleaning. Apparently, as long as the bad cops are in the majority, the public hating machine they foster will carry on.

It's not that I'm a cop hater, it's that I don't trust them as a whole. I know a few cops on a personal basis, and they are good cops. They showed me some respect in the beginning, and they get respect in return. That's how it works. Too bad there isn't enough of them.

[DolSVT00]

You guys need to understand something. 95% of the people the police officers deal with are the scum of the earth, have attitudes, want to harm them in some way shape or form. It is rare that my wife comes home and says guess what, someone actually thanked me for doing something for them. Yes, they get paid to do the job they do. But, hear is something for you to think about. Most of the people in the world no when they leave the house that they are going to return back that evening. When I leave in the morning and tell my my good bye and that I love her, that it could be the last time I see her. All to protect ans servfe others. Think about that tomorrow when you leave and say good bye to your spouse.

I think most of us understand what they have to deal with, and I do give the ones that do their job respect.

I've never been a cop, never aspired to be one and never will, but what I do is virtually the same principal without the violence (well most of the time).

I tell people they do things wrong, I give thim tickets (per say) and I can also change their lives considerably (like prison but at least they feed you) regardless if their my direct reports or even if their in a high position by causing them to loose their job for mistakes they make responsible or not.

But I must do it with integrity, the law (which for me comes in the form of a code book or contract document) is what it is, I cannot take it personal or it will cloud my judgment. I cannot just look at something and say its bad or its wrong without without evidence and by no means can i attack an entire group for a single individual's mistake. I must at all times have pure intentions before making a decision regardless of any personal feelings or past experiences and especially whan it comes to someones livelyhood .

This results in trust, faith and a true uncompromised direction.



The opposite is a rambo, and exactly what I discribed a few posts above.
"The problem is, with some people you give them authority and training and their perception of the job that they are supposed to do evolves into what they want to believe their job is, when actually they are incapable of performing any job with any kind of integrity."

This results in some of the feelings and comments expressed in this and the other thread and is the complete opposite of trust.

[Mike]

Apparently, as long as the bad cops are in the majority,..... .

I disagree.

I have had a lot of "run-ins" with cops, on both sides of the law. I haven't met one that I would consider a bad cop. Maybe mediocre, but not bad. Most are doing a great job.

..and Harry I thanked at least 4 cops in the past 2 year.

2 for the seat belt tickets they gave me
1 for not writing me a ticket for a California stop I did.
1 for catching the thief that I observed breaking into my neighbors house.

My wife has a dangerous job also. Lost count of how many times she has had a gun pointed at her and her co-workers.

[Shane361]

Here's a thought to ponder for all the good cops out there: You know damn well who's the assholes within your ranks that abuse their authority. Don't you give a rats ass enough about the law abiding public's view of the police in general, or is it just more comfortable for ALL of you, good cop and bad cop, to just stay quiet and reap the benefits of your gifted status behind the thin blue line?

If the good cops actually outnumbered the bad cops, the force would be self cleaning. Apparently, as long as the bad cops are in the majority, the public hating machine they foster will carry on.

It's not that I'm a cop hater, it's that I don't trust them as a whole. I know a few cops on a personal basis, and they are good cops. They showed me some respect in the beginning, and they get respect in return. That's how it works. Too bad there isn't enough of them.

Look at the BIG PICTURE..life in America WITHOUT them. 99% of the time...dont break the law and you wont get in trouble. Those are some pretty damn good odds in regards to ANYTHING.

[98nbmz]

What I think that should be done to improve local police departments is more education and training needs to be required. I'm young (21), but every police officer I've seen go to the academy was not in college and really had nothing else going for them so they became a cop. Also I think some cops got picked on in high school or never had any kind of authority growing up so they wanted to become a police officer, alot of you might think this is a stereotype but ive seen it first hand. And cops dealing with scum 95% of the time I think is totally false unless your a narcotics agent in North Charleston, I do agree its a dirty job and of course nobody is gonna like you for writing them tickets, but I dont agree with people ALWAYS wanting to harm the officer. One of my good friends is a Summerville officer and he prob wrote a total of 5 tickets last year for things like assault, dui, etc.. Minor offences he didnt even hardly bother with. But he also spoke about guys like the seatbelt nazis the two older guys on the motorcycles that ride around Summerville looking for people not wearing your seatbelt. One got me one time, pulled me over treated him with respect and had a friendly conversation with the man, he let me go.
Some cops wear their badge as a crown and well thats their choice but who knows one day when that crown might get him killed.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

I'd like to see both these threads killed in action lol.

[Harry]

I'd like do see both these threads killed in action lol.

The only reason I started this thread was to combat all the negativety. Atleast they aren't all about bashing the police and we are hearing something half positive now.

[WWhittle]

Do any of these people you oversee ever spit in your face? Cuss you out? Punch you in your face? Try to stab you? Try to shoot you? Lie to you 90% of the time? Attempt to kill you? Etc etc?

No they don't. That's just not part of your working environment. But if it was, your attitude would be a little different and you would be approaching those people a lot differently.







I think most of us understand what they have to deal with, and I do give the ones that do their job respect.

I've never been a cop, never aspired to be one and never will, but what I do is virtually the same principal without the violence (well most of the time).

I tell people they do things wrong, I give thim tickets (per say) and I can also change their lives considerably (like prison but at least they feed you) regardless if their my direct reports or even if their in a high position by causing them to loose their job for mistakes they make responsible or not.

But I must do it with integrity, the law (which for me comes in the form of a code book or contract document) is what it is, I cannot take it personal or it will cloud my judgment. I cannot just look at something and say its bad or its wrong without without evidence and by no means can i attack an entire group for a single individual's mistake. I must at all times have pure intentions before making a decision regardless of any personal feelings or past experiences and especially whan it comes to someones livelyhood .

This results in trust, faith and a true uncompromised direction.



The opposite is a rambo, and exactly what I discribed a few posts above.
"The problem is, with some people you give them authority and training and their perception of the job that they are supposed to do evolves into what they want to believe their job is, when actually they are incapable of performing any job with any kind of integrity."

This results in some of the feelings and comments expressed in this and the other thread and is the complete opposite of trust.

[Darryl Buckner]

Bad Boys, Bad Boys, what you gonna do? Sorry couldn't resist. My older sister is a cop, and she doesn't act that way unless provoked..:bigthumb:

[csikx]

What I think that should be done to improve local police departments is more education and training needs to be required. I'm young (21), but every police officer I've seen go to the academy was not in college and really had nothing else going for them so they became a cop. Also I think some cops got picked on in high school or never had any kind of authority growing up so they wanted to become a police officer, alot of you might think this is a stereotype but ive seen it first hand. And cops dealing with scum 95% of the time I think is totally false unless your a narcotics agent in North Charleston, I do agree its a dirty job and of course nobody is gonna like you for writing them tickets, but I dont agree with people ALWAYS wanting to harm the officer. One of my good friends is a Summerville officer and he prob wrote a total of 5 tickets last year for things like assault, dui, etc.. Minor offences he didnt even hardly bother with. But he also spoke about guys like the seatbelt nazis the two older guys on the motorcycles that ride around Summerville looking for people not wearing your seatbelt. One got me one time, pulled me over treated him with respect and had a friendly conversation with the man, he let me go.
Some cops wear their badge as a crown and well thats their choice but who knows one day when that crown might get him killed.

1) There is not enough money in the budget for training.
2) I'm gonna call bullshit on the officer that ONLY wrote 5 tickets all year. PM me the name of your buddy.
3) The motorcycle guys are TRAFFIC cops... of course they are going to be TRAFFIC nazi's.
4) Mt P requires a 2 year degree and the City of Chas requires a 4 year degree (sometimes length of service can be substituted). Those are 2 LOCAL agencies that require schooling.

I'd like to know where you get this info from... like they say, 89% of all statistics are made up on the spot ;).

[csikx]

I didnt have a problem with leaving they told us to go and I left and went home( well after a few races against ShawnBoy:hysterical:)



I can see it now...

Kryptonite - Hey guys, I got a ticket for street racing. Fucking cops, assholes.
FORUM - What happened?
Kryptonite - I got caught street racing.
FORUM - OMG! Don't those fat cops have anything better to do?!

Of course, the dialogue would contain an abundance of spelling errors, a few conspiracy theories and a post bitching about why you guys can't find a hang out spot.

[cmd]

1) There is not enough money in the budget for training.
2) I'm gonna call bullshit on the officer that ONLY wrote 5 tickets all year. PM me the name of your buddy.
3) The motorcycle guys are TRAFFIC cops... of course they are going to be TRAFFIC nazi's.
4) Mt P requires a 2 year degree and the City of Chas requires a 4 year degree (sometimes length of service can be substituted). Those are 2 LOCAL agencies that require schooling.

I'd like to know where you get this info from... like they say, 89% of all statistics are made up on the spot ;).

Wrong sir! 92.8% of all percentages are made up on the spot!

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Die thread die.

[csikx]

Wrong sir! 92.8% of all percentages are made up on the spot!

:mrgreen:

[DolSVT00]

Do any of these people you oversee ever spit in your face? Cuss you out? Punch you in your face? Try to stab you? Try to shoot you? Lie to you 90% of the time? Attempt to kill you? Etc etc?

No they don't. That's just not part of your working environment. But if it was, your attitude would be a little different and you would be approaching those people a lot differently.

Actually yes, I've had them spit in my face, cuss me out, swing at me. I have never had one try and stab me, although i've been threatened with getting thrown off a building 365 feet up in the air.

I get lied to every day still, and i've had my car tires slashed, and my vehicles keyed.

The time frame that all this happened was when I took it personal, and everyone had the perception I was out to get them. And in a way, I was if someone messed up a part or performed crappy work and I found it, it was like a prize to me and I was out to embarrass the person who did it in front of their piers and get them run off the job.

Fast forward to the past 10 years, things like that are extremely rare I just do my job, don't take it personal and even when confronted in an aggressive way, maintain my stature up to the point where in only a few cases I've had to defend myself.

You earn respect that way and gain some trust too, when you make decisions with that kind of backing even in times where it hurts the most for someone to loose their job or get disciplined. You'll find more approval of your actions from the general public, because they know it was warranted.

[98nbmz]

1) There is not enough money in the budget for training.
2) I'm gonna call bullshit on the officer that ONLY wrote 5 tickets all year. PM me the name of your buddy.
3) The motorcycle guys are TRAFFIC cops... of course they are going to be TRAFFIC nazi's.
4) Mt P requires a 2 year degree and the City of Chas requires a 4 year degree (sometimes length of service can be substituted). Those are 2 LOCAL agencies that require schooling.

I'd like to know where you get this info from... like they say, 89% of all statistics are made up on the spot ;).

What info? I didn't post any statistics about anything.

[namewastaken_0_0]

http://www.officer.com/video/10271586/video-ohio-officer-attacked-inside-station

What kinda person does it make me when I get so giddy when I see this happen?

choked slammed like a mf'er!

edit: skip to 00:50 lolz

[Matts94Z28]

I can see it now...

Kryptonite - Hey guys, I got a ticket for street racing. Fucking cops, assholes.
FORUM - What happened?
Kryptonite - I got caught street racing.
FORUM - OMG! Don't those fat cops have anything better to do?!

Of course, the dialogue would contain an abundance of spelling errors, a few conspiracy theories and a post bitching about why you guys can't find a hang out spot.

What department are you in?

[red99pony]

it doesn't matter if they get punched in the face, spit on or whatever everyday, it doesn't give them the right to mistreat hardworking good people based on what bad experiences they have had in the past. even good people make honest mistakes from time to time.

[Shane361]

http://www.officer.com/video/10271586/video-ohio-officer-attacked-inside-station

What kinda person does it make me when I get so giddy when I see this happen?

choked slammed like a mf'er!

edit: skip to 00:50 lolz

That shit makes me happy...wish the cop would have shot that fucker:bigthumb:

[namewastaken_0_0]

That shit makes me happy...wish the cop would have shot that fucker:bigthumb:

That's why I love watching cops haha I start getting all hyped up.

But, I get depressed feeling when I see the senseless stuff too =/

But there is a big ass thick line between a running down and tackling crackhead, and just straight up killing someone who isn't resisting.

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Around 1:25 is when they shoot him once, and hes dead.

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[csikx]

^ Shitty situation, but I don't think that cop meant to straight up kill that dude. Come on, in front of all those witnesses.

[namewastaken_0_0]

^ Shitty situation, but I don't think that cop meant to straight up kill that dude. Come on, in front of all those witnesses.

Few questions then if he did not mean to kill this person.

1) Why were they all not cuffed or detained, or being walked outside to patrol cars or whatever?

2) Why even pull a gun? Or your tazer? No need as far as I can see, and I have watched every video.

Excessive force is used on the daily, sometimes people die from it.....sometimes not.


I myself have been pulled over a few times, that's about it, never been cuffed, or detained or anything. Just minor tickets. So I have seen "dick" acting cops, and nice ones.....who still gave me tickets.

A state trooper pulled me over after catching me at 73mph (was doing 120 racing a vette down i-26) All he did was ask me to think about the construction workers and their families and to rethink speeding.....was thoughtful of him and he wasnt being a dick.

There is always good with bad, in every job. It's just their job is in the open, in view of the masses......just because you maybe spit in the face, cussed out, disrespected......doesn't mean you have the worst job ever.

I did cable, I was cussed out on the daily, yelled off easements that Comcast ownes because the homeowner said they own the land, had to call the cops about that. And even when I cut meat I had a lady throw a rack of spareribs at me because another cutter messed up her order. I didn't lash out just said sorry ma'am and walked away.

If you use the term "hard job" or "bad job" to define what can/does/will happen on your job site.....well then cops have a bad job and hard job. But so do other people.....hence the rumor don't buy a car that was made on a Friday or Monday.

But, its never......ever a reason to take your anger frustration out on others. If they diverse it or not, the law is there, and they are here to enforce it, not to make it up as they see fit.

I have a major headache and unsure if this makes sense, if not, ignore it.

[csikx]

^ It does make sense, but I never once said I had a bad or hard job.

But PLEASE, do not compare working as a butcher or working at Comcast to being a cop. It isn't the same.

I'm just here to give hindsight and insider info. It is disgusting to see such cop hate. I'm just one dude among many. I won't change anyone's opinion about cops, but maybe I can help them better understand why things were/are done a certain way.

[Matts94Z28]

^ It does make sense, but I never once said I had a bad or hard job.

But PLEASE, do not compare working as a butcher or working at Comcast to being a cop. It isn't the same.

I'm just here to give hindsight and insider info. It is disgusting to see such cop hate. I'm just one dude among many. I won't change anyone's opinion about cops, but maybe I can help them better understand why things were/are done a certain way.

:bigthumb:

[AverageJoe]

It is disgusting to see such cop hate. I'm just one dude among many. I won't change anyone's opinion about cops, but maybe I can help them better understand why things were/are done a certain way.

Maybe you can help me understand this:

Why is such a large percentage of the police force dedicated to traffic enforcement when there is so much dangerous criminal activity (drugs, murder, robbery, etc) going on?

I think its the minority of traffic cops that cause so much hate. You know, the guys that show up for court with a 5 inch stack of traffic tickets. These are the cops that need to be purged somehow from the police depts. They could at the very least be razzed and constantly belittled by the good cops, this would knock down the ego boost they get from writing bs traffic tickets.

[Shane361]

Maybe you can help me understand this:

Why is such a large percentage of the police force dedicated to traffic enforcement when there is so much dangerous criminal activity (drugs, murder, robbery, etc) going on?

I think its the minority of traffic cops that cause so much hate. You know, the guys that show up for court with a 5 inch stack of traffic tickets. These are the cops that need to be purged somehow from the police depts. They could at the very least be razzed and constantly belittled by the good cops, this would knock down the ego boost they get from writing bs traffic tickets.

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[cmd]

^ It does make sense, but I never once said I had a bad or hard job.

But PLEASE, do not compare working as a butcher or working at Comcast to being a cop. It isn't the same.

I'm just here to give hindsight and insider info. It is disgusting to see such cop hate. I'm just one dude among many. I won't change anyone's opinion about cops, but maybe I can help them better understand why things were/are done a certain way.

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[csikx]

Maybe you can help me understand this:

Why is such a large percentage of the police force dedicated to traffic enforcement when there is so much dangerous criminal activity (drugs, murder, robbery, etc) going on?

I think its the minority of traffic cops that cause so much hate. You know, the guys that show up for court with a 5 inch stack of traffic tickets. These are the cops that need to be purged somehow from the police depts. They could at the very least be razzed and constantly belittled by the good cops, this would knock down the ego boost they get from writing bs traffic tickets.

Where do you get that information?

Traffic enforcement is necessary. If we didn't have a traffic division then patrol officer's would be tied up all day working collisions, dealing with hit and runs and "traffic" related calls. People already are horrible enough at driving, I couldn't imagine how much worse it would get if the general public knew there was little to no traffic enforcement officers. But to say a large percentage of officers are dedicated to traffic enforcement is a false statement. I'm not sure if people are aware, but just because you are getting pulled over doesn't mean it is by a traffic cop. Patrol officers enforce traffic laws, as well. Maybe that is where the confusion may be?

(My statements are based off the local police agencies.)

[Harry]

[QUOTE=AverageJoe;115283]Maybe you can help me understand this:

Why is such a large percentage of the police force dedicated to traffic enforcement when there is so much dangerous criminal activity (drugs, murder, robbery, etc) going on? QUOTE]

Hell, they need more Traffic Oficers and more Highway Patrol. I for one am tired of getting ran over, cut off, and just all around tired of the stupid crap that goes on.

[Harry]

^ It does make sense, but I never once said I had a bad or hard job.

But PLEASE, do not compare working as a butcher or working at Comcast to being a cop. It isn't the same.

I'm just here to give hindsight and insider info. It is disgusting to see such cop hate. I'm just one dude among many. I won't change anyone's opinion about cops, but maybe I can help them better understand why things were/are done a certain way.

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[MonteC]

I think both sides are blowing this way out of proportion. All of the "haters" are just asking for a little respect, and even the benefit of the doubt. When I get pulled over and after the initial checking of ID and such, I expect to be informed what I did wrong. Sometimes I know, sometimes I dont. I expect to be allowed a brief rebuttal. If I still get a ticked thats ok, I will have my day in court to either pay my fine or present my case to a judge. But I always thank every officer or trooper.

A police officer who pulls me over should expect respect and cooperation from me. I put my hands on the steering wheel after turning off the engine. When I am asked for my ID i tell the officer where it is and ask if i can get it. I think this helps the officer be more comfortable, because god knows what people carry on them.

If I become disrespectful or incoherent then the officer has every right to fire up his attitude and lay it on me. And Wes, I think your way off base, past experiences do not give you the right to abandon all civilities on a first encounter. Start out civil and respectful, if that is not returned than all bets are off. What Marcus posted is a good example of that. Why couldnt the officer tell him what the infraction was? How can I keep from doing something if I dont know what it is?

[namewastaken_0_0]

^ It does make sense, but I never once said I had a bad or hard job.

But PLEASE, do not compare working as a butcher or working at Comcast to being a cop. It isn't the same.

I'm just here to give hindsight and insider info. It is disgusting to see such cop hate. I'm just one dude among many. I won't change anyone's opinion about cops, but maybe I can help them better understand why things were/are done a certain way.

Sorry, didn't mean for it to come off as if I was comparing the jobs.

It was more of.....every job has shitty side effects......unless you worked for Google pre 2005 ^_^
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edit: ugh after watching that.....fuck my life for not getting computer certs :(


That's what I was trying to get at.

[csikx]

Fuck... now I want to work at Google, haha.

[namewastaken_0_0]

Fuck... now I want to work at Google, haha.

I was able to make it to first phone interview.....once they found out I have no cert's ugh.....

I need money for cert's.....they are not cheap =/

[csikx]

They were hiring some type of security something or other here. I should have put in for it. They didn't require any computer skills.

[AverageJoe]

Where do you get that information?

Traffic enforcement is necessary. If we didn't have a traffic division then patrol officer's would be tied up all day working collisions, dealing with hit and runs and "traffic" related calls. People already are horrible enough at driving, I couldn't imagine how much worse it would get if the general public knew there was little to no traffic enforcement officers. But to say a large percentage of officers are dedicated to traffic enforcement is a false statement. I'm not sure if people are aware, but just because you are getting pulled over doesn't mean it is by a traffic cop. Patrol officers enforce traffic laws, as well. Maybe that is where the confusion may be?

(My statements are based off the local police agencies.)

Still no response about the guy with a 5" stack of tickets. This type does nothing but sit on his fat ass at some sort of speed trap and hand out tickets.

[WWhittle]

I never said they can abandon all civilities. I was playing devils advocate. And Marcus is telling his side, there are two sides.

I quit on this conversation yesterday. Everytime I come on this site I realize it's mostly just arguing for the sake of arguing.

We can all choose who or what we do or don't respect. I have made my decisions and I really have nothing to gain in trying to discuss it with anyone, so I won't.




I think both sides are blowing this way out of proportion. All of the "haters" are just asking for a little respect, and even the benefit of the doubt. When I get pulled over and after the initial checking of ID and such, I expect to be informed what I did wrong. Sometimes I know, sometimes I dont. I expect to be allowed a brief rebuttal. If I still get a ticked thats ok, I will have my day in court to either pay my fine or present my case to a judge. But I always thank every officer or trooper.

A police officer who pulls me over should expect respect and cooperation from me. I put my hands on the steering wheel after turning off the engine. When I am asked for my ID i tell the officer where it is and ask if i can get it. I think this helps the officer be more comfortable, because god knows what people carry on them.

If I become disrespectful or incoherent then the officer has every right to fire up his attitude and lay it on me. And Wes, I think your way off base, past experiences do not give you the right to abandon all civilities on a first encounter. Start out civil and respectful, if that is not returned than all bets are off. What Marcus posted is a good example of that. Why couldnt the officer tell him what the infraction was? How can I keep from doing something if I dont know what it is?

[bambooi]

Still no response about the guy with a 5" stack of tickets. This type does nothing but sit on his fat ass at some sort of speed trap and hand out tickets.

What do you want to hear? All those people deserved their tickets. They broke the law most likely. As far as I see it, he is going his job. Now watch me get a ticket for opening my mouth...

[AverageJoe]

Yes, they did break the law. I break the law every day, many times. So do most cops.

[Harry]

Yes, they did break the law. I break the law every day, many times. So do most cops.

My god. Give it a rest already. So what is your point? Thay actually work for a living? If they are writing tickets it means 1- They are doing there job that you and I are paying them for and 2- The people they wrote tickets to had to doing something to receive the ticket.

[AverageJoe]

OK harry, you're right. That IS what you wanted to hear, right?

[gearmesh, inc.]

I don't have a problem with cops doing their jobs. They are public servants and are expected to carry themselves in a professional manner. If I get caught speeding, rolling a stop sign, etc, and I get ticketed, I understand.

The lack of trust from the public really gets amped up when a dickhead cop like the one Marcus experienced wears his badge as a crown. Do you think that cop would have acted like that if he knew a 3rd party camera was on him? Like on the show "Cops"? If you have ever watched the show "Cops", all the police encounters they show are conducted in a professional manner as they should be. I have zero complaints when cops operate that way. Now, take those 3rd party cameras away, and you will have the ones with a Napoleon complex really showing their asses. What these assholes don't realize is that by conducting themselves in an unprofessional manner like that makes their already inadequate wee-wees another 2 inches shorter.

In reference to all those on this board that are in law enforcement or have family in law enforcement, I sincerely hope that you/they come home everyday after work. But just let me come across one known dickhead cop that is the arresting cop in a case that I am a jury member on, and I guarantee you I will be against the po-po on that one. I don't care what evidence is presented because I won't view it as credible.

When it comes to jury duty, the public's perception of the police really matters if the DA wants solid convictions.

[csikx]

Still no response about the guy with a 5" stack of tickets. This type does nothing but sit on his fat ass at some sort of speed trap and hand out tickets.

5 inches of tickets? That is shitty quite honestly. Considering one ticket has 3 other copies. Also, if you work 12 hours shifts and have a traffic court once a month, I'd hope you'd have that many tickets. Sometimes the tickets carry over, are continued, etc...

6-8 tickets a night, 14 shifts a month = somewhere around 300 pieces of paper. I'd say that is your 5 inch stack.

[Harry]

OK, We all get there are people out there that are ASSHOLES. Including Police Officers, Meat Cutters, Mechanics, Doctors Lawyers,Preachers, Construction Workers and so on and so forth. Can we please move on?