This is my new favorite thread

[DolSVT00]

http://www.nloc.net/vbforum/gen-2-li...rs-amazon.html

Please everyone go to ATS. They will make you go fast!

[Mike]

I agree.

Great tuner, they definitely have some of the highest HP trucks out there.......and with their simulated 1/4 mile run being so accurate, you'd be crazy not to use them.

[Jeff]

You have to love a tooner that gives out corrected dyno jet numbers on a mustang dyno .

[Richard Head]

Now, now Mikey. Be nice!

[chrisheltra]

Keep talkin Im gonna whoop all yalls asses at the track!

[DolSVT00]

ya just ask Andre on NLOC http://www.nloc.net/vbforum/gen-2-li...-56k-death.htm
Built motor, ATS tune 13.35 blazing fast 1/4 mile times

[Mike]

Originally Posted by chrisheltra

Keep talkin Im gonna whoop all yalls asses on the simulated dyno

Chris I fixed your post.....

[05Saleen]

Built motor, ATS tune 13.35 blazing fast 1/4 mile times

[Whaler]

[Zacharyx]

Are the numbers more accurate than they used to be?? A friend had his car tuned there and when he was redynoed on a Dyno-Jet hes was down over 50HP

[Whaler]

Originally Posted by Zacharyx

Are the numbers more accurate than they used to be?? A friend had his car tuned there and when he was redynoed on a Dyno-Jet hes was down over 50HP

Juiced numbers? Barry Bonds? Is this true?

[Slowleen]

the numbers on my 01 were way off going from rick to a dynojet...I'm not the only one who had that problem, so I doubt it was the dynojet the car ended up on afterwards. The tune was good though, but I'm convinced he inflates his numbers to make him look good...and thats from personal experience

[Magoo]

Rick gives those inflated numbers because people want to see the big #'s. They see the MD #'s and get all their feelings all hurt. I will say his email tunes were a hit or miss for me, but he always got me straightened out.......but don't forget I did go 11.1@127 on one of his email tunes with my car on blower only. I took the car down there to get dyno tuned and it runs damn good.

[Zacharyx]

I have never had car tuned by them, but Tim makes 2 inflated numbers, i think if you are hurt by low numbers from a MD then grow up and realize or go find a dynojet. I say take your low HP# sheet with you to hurt feeling when you out run peoples feelings. A dyno is a tuning tool and a cool sheet to brag about on the internet. Timeslips are a much better judge.

I think peak numbers are way overrated anyway. I think the area under the curve matters more since you will be in that range more often

[LXtasy]

Originally Posted by Zacharyx

I have never had car tuned by them, but Tim makes 2 inflated numbers, i think if you are hurt by low numbers from a MD then grow up and realize or go find a dynojet. I say take your low HP# sheet with you to hurt feeling when you out run peoples feelings. A dyno is a tuning tool and a cool sheet to brag about on the internet. Timeslips are a much better judge.

I think peak numbers are way overrated anyway. I think the area under the curve matters more since you will be in that range more often

Agree 100%.

Dynojet numbers all always alittle higher. Unless you go to Powerzone. It is a hit or miss at that place.

[Slowleen]

well him being dishonest about the numbers isnt cool to me.I never expected my car to make some big huge number. But when it pulls 355rwhp on a mustang dyno, and then shortly after the new owners throw it on a dyno jet and it pulls 339rwhp...I get to wondering.

Come to find out a guy i know who owns a shop in VA had a dyno day, where a bunch of his customers were there, and they all pulled below his mustang dyno numbers on a dynojet...and quite a few of them are lean.

Now, I never said anything bad about his tuning ability, my 01 saleen really did run good, and in the end that is all that mattered to me, I was personally worried about making 380rwhp on a stock gt shortblock, but dishonesty is dishonesty...and then to turn around and be friends with Bill B. who sold me a stolen motor, and screwed me a shane over big time...just was kind of like stabbing me in the back and twisting the knife a little.

I guess overall, im not to big of a fan of Rick anymore after all that...but like i said...I'm one person who had a somewhat of a bad experience with him to some degree, and then a real bad one personally. I wouldnt steer anyone away from going to him b/c I think he is a good tuner, but at this point with what happened to me, i'd give someone else my money before him

[clubracergt1]

Damn, guys. I thought you all knew that the only dyno numbers that matter are the air/fuel numbers. You can differ 20 hp (dyno or real world) with the only difference being air temp and humidity. Not to mention things like altitude and fuel quality. Even my slow ass knows that the only numbers that count are printed on a time slip. Of course, I know that none of you here are dyno racers; but it just floors me when people worry so much about what numbers they put down on the rollers.

Sorry, guys. Just ranting.

[Linn@AmazonTuning]

Tim Yeager..when you got "ripped off" who gave you a motor in exchange for a set of crappy heads? all we ever did is try to help you and this is what we get from you.. I have heard your story and Shanes and Mikes and Bills..and only God knows the real truth..what happened..that was not our mess but we tried to be unbiased with you all..and give each of you the benefit of the doubt..

we do not give inflated dyno #s... we gave converted to DJ #s from a computer program that MD gave us...we dont do that anymore because it confused people who didnt understand..

Rick doesnt care about dyno #s..he uses the dyno to tune not massage egos with #s...

the 1/4 mile runs are as accurate as they can be given the way the data is collected.. it is just a fun thing to do..

you can not compare results from different dynos..period...ever...
it is what it is on that given day and time and place..especially from another competing vendors shop...we had a shop in VA telling everyone that the tunes were lean and it turned out that his AF monitoring equiptment was not giving accurate readings..


you should have no beef with Amazon...we helped you when you were in a bind and you gave us a set of heads that were crap and not even close to equal value of the engine..

Randy Smith...Rick could have revised your tune if you would have provided him with the correct date he asked you for...he even offered to dyno tune it at no charge so he could collect the data he needed but you were not interested and just gave up..so you basically repaid for something that Rick was willing to do for free and has offered to do even with your PSP emailed tune..I know you felt like you were jumping through hoops but properly collected specific data is essentail for optimal revision..

Jeff... your car ran 11.30@122mph with the first tune that Rick did for your car ..at the track in BG...when you came up here for a dyno tune you SAID you were happy but after seeing what you post about Amazon these days..you NEVER were happy so you were telling us one thing and saying another behind our back

to our loyal customers..thank you for your support..we appreciate your trust in Amazon ..

[///Mcompact]

I had my Evo tuned there. The first time I hit the fun pedal, it did two somersaults, landed on all fours and blew up with awesomeness as confetti came raining down from the sky.

Oh wait...

Yeah..dunno anything about that there tuning shop...just craving for some attention.

I have, however, bought a few books from amazon.com and have even watched the episode "Hercules and the Amazon Women". A bunch of hot, femme-nazi chicks that chased Kevin Sorbo around in the jungle made my heart race. Personally, I don't know why he was running from them. Batting for the wrong team?

A real shame that show was canceled, though. Not since "Mac and Me" has there been such original and mind blowing plot lines filled with high rate special effects.

Anyways..so it seems that I am *somewhat* qualified to speak on behalf of the matters of Amazon, after all.

[DolSVT00]

Randy Smith...Rick could have revised your tune if you would have provided him with the correct date he asked you for...he even offered to dyno tune it at no charge so he could collect the data he needed but you were not interested and just gave up..so you basically repaid for something that Rick was willing to do for free and has offered to do even with your PSP emailed tune..I know you felt like you were jumping through hoops but properly collected specific data is essentail for optimal revision.

First off I tried. I have called, sent data, tried new tunes, bla bla bla. I have an e-mail inbox with 8 useless tunes. All of which have an air fuel that is soo rich that my wideband can't even get readings because it's stuck at 10.0.

Not to mention the fact that none of them work with the MAFIA, which is unless they put a diesel motor in my lightning (black smoke)? All of which have shift problems where it sounds like a midget with a jackhammer beating on my tranny.

Drive to Anderson for a free tune, no thanks why would I want to drive 5 hours to go slower

Properly collected data?........ Funny, the tuner I have now must have ESP. He asked for 2 data points then sent 2 tunes (for my broke MAFIA) and told me what I would see on the wideband. I drove it down the road, looked at my wideband and it was like ESP............. He knew what the A/F was before my wideband did?
Nah........ I think he just knows how to tune a lightning