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73camaro 11-13-2009 08:30 PM

Is this a bad idea?
 
I just want opinions on a project I'm considering starting.

I'm tryin to sell the yellow car and move to a S13 chassis, and I wanna have a really unique engine swap that's not hyper expensive and not too slow. I thought about an F20, but that's been done, so I wanna recreate something I saw on Houston Craigslist years ago. A 4G63 240SX.

Opinions, ideas, disgust, let's hear it.

BigdaddyDupree 11-13-2009 08:38 PM

might be better as much as you drive.

s14.5gonewide 11-13-2009 08:38 PM

their is a rwd conversion for the 4g63.. it is kinda expensive. even if u bought a cyclone swap it would end up costing a grip of money..

i may be bias towards a import.. but to do a drop in motor swap you should have about 10grand set aside.
motor tranny
new seals(full)
new fluids
possibly new rings
clutch/flywheel why u are their
timing chain/belt

and thats before you start modding the motor at all. these jdm import engines have been sitting a long time. even if you get a usa motor its still being pulled from a early 90 motor...than u could be talking an evo motor but thats a grip of cash up front.

u are really better off keeping the yellow car and doing bolt ons, full heads, ect ect.. suspension.

s14.5gonewide 11-13-2009 10:36 PM

https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...hp?cPath=23_99

yea i think its just a pipe dream waiting to get parted out.. stick with what u got.

73camaro 11-13-2009 11:15 PM

Yeah, I figured on buying a fresh rebuilt T56 and totally rebuilding the engine/upgrading cams, head, and turbo setup. I want a 6 bolt, non-Evo motor in it, for a little better simplicity and zero worries of crank walk. And maybe 20 psi to start off with?

The big steps would be:

0. Drive the car normally while saving money. (Kinda fun)
1. Acquire all needed materials after figuring out engine guts/power & boost goal. (Spend as big as $15k)
2. Install engine / tranny setup, solving all location / mounting issues. (Fab)
3. Engine wiring, standalone, and accessories / driveshaft and shifter. (Electrical miracles occuring)
4. Entire turbo setup. (Really good at both welding and cussing by now)
5. Break in / work out kinks / dyno tune. (Driving a little at this point)
6. Enjoy the benefits and attention of a unique, potent swap. (Driving normally, overjoyed at success)
7. Build for more boost / strength later. (Huge money spendings again, sell other cars)

ShawnBoyMoody 11-13-2009 11:40 PM

Hard to beat an ole split bumper Camaro. That car has a ton of potential. You should keep working on it.:bigthumb:

73camaro 11-13-2009 11:58 PM

Thanks man. I really enjoy it the way it is: loud, rattly, spartan and simple. But my import buddies have converted me to the small light car / small boosted motor religion. I'm tryin half-assedly to sell mine for $10k. I wanna have fun on offramps, and have fun drifting with all my friends instead of drag racing. Stuff like gas bills, unending rust, constant cop attention, and self-disassembling interior bits have made me reconsider my muscle car. Somethin with a high-revving turbo motor and a total weight under 2600 would rock, even though it'd be slower in a straight line. A 240 is cheap and seems like it'd fit the bill, but I gotta figure out a good engine swap for it, or I won't be happy. Maybe a single turbo'd 2JZ... Or going to a S2K...

toslow 11-14-2009 12:01 AM

buy my dsm buy my dsm buy my dsm

73camaro 11-14-2009 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toslow (Post 55772)
buy my dsm buy my dsm buy my dsm

May I have a link please?

73camaro 11-14-2009 12:23 AM

Now with video!
Quote:

...instead of drag racing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljIA2-Y9HQk

Quote:

Originally Posted by 73camaro (Post 55770)
...have fun drifting with all my friends...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3t6KuDiP64

snakeplissken 11-14-2009 12:25 AM

I like 73Camaro - good attitude displacement for a young guy.

Waaay better than me at that age.

Carry on.

bwelch 11-14-2009 01:02 AM

It cost alot more money to build an import to be as fast as american muscle. Most of the really fast imports have alot of drivetrain problem when you put alot of power to them.

BigdaddyDupree 11-14-2009 01:26 AM

240sx with LS1 with t56. great mileage. awesome power. daily driver friendy. sleeper from hell. not stupid expensive. hell put a 5.3 in it and it will ride. cheap to build. funnnnnnn

bwelch 11-14-2009 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigdaddyDupree (Post 55781)
240sx with LS1 with t56. great mileage. awesome power. daily driver friendy. sleeper from hell. not stupid expensive. hell put a 5.3 in it and it will ride. cheap to build. funnnnnnn

x2.:bigthumb:.You could even turbo the ls1 in it.

BigdaddyDupree 11-14-2009 02:16 AM

if i didnt have a different car for every occasion which i sadly do and i just wanted to build something fast and driver friendly. i would never hesitate to build a 240 with a LS1 and T-56. i mean it would be fun. light. gobs of power. great mileage. and wouldnt hurt the wallet too bad

240sx 3000? maybe
complete LS1-1000
t56 1500
wiring 400
swap stuff 1200-1500
misc 1000
the powerand fun....priceless


for 8 grand you could have hell of a car. unless im overlooking something

1998ta__1991rs 11-14-2009 04:02 AM

ive got a NICEE 4.8 (could make it a high compression 5.3 if you wanted) that would fit very nice in a 240

L.C. 11-14-2009 05:30 AM

I say KA-T man, torque is fun, and those setups make tons; would be much easier/cheaper to do than 4G swap too.

That's what I would do if I had an S13.

That or a 26 like dude's vert, but FINISH IT! :bigthumb:

jmd 11-14-2009 06:15 AM

what you want for the yellow car?

///Mcompact 11-14-2009 06:30 AM

4G63 = Iron block = not much lighter than an aluminum V8.

Go with the SR20 if you wanna keep it a 4-banger. Otherwise, I 3rd the motion to put in a 4.8/5.3 and hook up a little "Psssh- Psssh" (as Jeff's little boy puts it).

SLOWGREEN73 11-14-2009 08:42 AM

I would put a LSX motor in your camaro with a T56 . Because imports have no resale value when modified. Detroit speed has all the parts to make your car handle like a corvette.


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