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ForceFed4g63 · 10-21-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 1iron

You can put a bigger shot on but unless the cam is right for it you won't make more power. If you can't take it from their I won't even try.

Do you enjoy insulting people's intelligence?

slowgreen99 · 10-21-2011, 11:35 AM

My car has nowhere near 300 because of the stock block. I cant out power Zac, and that's a given. It may be close, may be ugly, but im not wanting to ruin any chances I may have against other people. There's a reason there's a "bump" spot in the low 5s with "no boost" cars, and the bump for cars with boost is a 4.8ish....Boost will phuck nitrous cars up built on an identical platform. Me and Zac arent on the same platform, so that's not even an option.

1998ta__1991rs · 10-21-2011, 12:08 PM

Class racing has rouined grudge racing for the slower turbo cars. Just because my car is turbod they expect it to be a 5.30 car and its its nowhere close.

slowgreen99 · 10-21-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998ta__1991rs

Class racing has rouined grudge racing for the slower turbo cars. Just because my car is turbod they expect it to be a 5.30 car and its its nowhere close.

With your setup, I dont see why not.

JTStreet · 10-21-2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 1iron

You can put a bigger shot on but unless the cam is right for it you won't make more power. If you can't take it from their I won't even try.

If I can't take it from who's what?

Thanks for clearing EVERYTHING up for me. I feel incredibly smart after your thorough explanation as to why you're obviously more intelligent than I am.

1iron · 10-21-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JTStreet

If I can't take it from who's what?

Thanks for clearing EVERYTHING up for me. I feel incredibly smart after your thorough explanation as to why you're obviously more intelligent than I am.

Good one. I do not want to tell you about nitrous. Read it on the Internet. I do know more about nitrous than you. If you knew anything about it you would not be telling people to put a shot on it to make the same power as a turbo. If Sam Vincent can't make as much power with a 450ci nitrous car that Chris Tuten can make with a 360ci turbo car. Well, then it can't be done. Not saying that Chris to is any less than the baddest man in SSO.

1iron · 10-21-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFed4g63

Do you enjoy insulting people's intelligence?

I am not insulting him. He is asking me to explain something that I feel he would be better served finding out for himself. He obviously has an interest in the subject and wouldn't believe me if I told him. I gave him a place to start his research.

I am not asking him to back up his statements and I don't feel the need to explain mine to him.

JTStreet · 10-21-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 1iron

I am not asking him to back up his statements and I don't feel the need to explain mine to him.

You should, because I've asked for an explanation. Your "retort" was to tell me I don't know anything and to look it up. That's a mighty strong argument.

You're right, I am trying to learn, and you are the self-proclaimed expert. I understand how nitrous works. You are the one claiming you can't run a bigger shot. All I asked was, "Why not?" And you haven't explained your claim.

bwelch · 10-21-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JTStreet

I'm going to throw this out, because I don't have a complete understanding of the way you guys think.

Who cares if it's a turbo car? I mean, I understand the basic reasoning, especially now that it's getting cooler out, the boosted cars are going to run well; however, isn't power just power? It doesn't matter how you're making it, as long as you are.

If you don't want to lose to a turbo car, why not just throw in a bigger nozzle, re-tune, or whatever? Power is power, faster is faster, etc. Know what I mean?

Most people in grudge racing are scared to race turbo cars because they dont know anything about them. We aren't scared to run Zac but if everybody at the track watches us beat or hang with him its going to F up our hustle.

1iron · 10-21-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JTStreet

You should, because I've asked for an explanation. Your "retort" was to tell me I don't know anything and to look it up. That's a mighty strong argument.

I don't need to "win" argument. And I never said that you don't know anything.

JTStreet · 10-21-2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bwelch

if everybody at the track watches us beat or hang with him its going to F up our hustle.

This is a very understandable argument.

bwelch · 10-21-2011, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JTStreet

You should, because I've asked for an explanation. Your "retort" was to tell me I don't know anything and to look it up. That's a mighty strong argument.

You're right, I am trying to learn, and you are the self-proclaimed expert. I understand how nitrous works. You are the one claiming you can't run a bigger shot. All I asked was, "Why not?" And you haven't explained your claim.

If the cam isn't setup for the amount of nitrous your trying to force into the motor it will be a waiste of time and money. You want see any gain in et. Not to mention that if the converter isnt setup for it you will start blowing through the converter.

JTStreet · 10-21-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 1iron

I don't need to "win" argument. And I never said that you don't know anything.

You alluded to it in quite a number of your posts. It is what it is. I didn't realize nitrous was so camshaft-dependent, because I have never owned a car where nitrous was the primary power-adder. It does make sense, especially with it being a grudge match.

However, my original statement was alluding more to the point of this: All things being equal (meaning each car is properly built to withstand 1,000 HP, i.e. the nitrous car has the appropriate cam and supporting mods, which in this case it doesn't) I don't see why a 1,000 HP nitrous car couldn't beat a 1,000 HP turbo car at the same race weight and the same approximate power curve.

MonteC · 10-21-2011, 01:33 PM

ugh.

bwelch · 10-21-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JTStreet

This is a very understandable argument.

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

WTFWSAT · 10-21-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MonteC

ugh.

exactly.

BigdaddyDupree · 10-21-2011, 01:55 PM

Jtstreet thinks too much into it.

cmd · 10-21-2011, 01:56 PM

AMERICA!

Pesce Nero · 10-21-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JTStreet

You alluded to it in quite a number of your posts. It is what it is. I didn't realize nitrous was so camshaft-dependent, because I have never owned a car where nitrous was the primary power-adder. It does make sense, especially with it being a grudge match.

However, my original statement was alluding more to the point of this: All things being equal (meaning each car is properly built to withstand 1,000 HP, i.e. the nitrous car has the appropriate cam and supporting mods, which in this case it doesn't) I don't see why a 1,000 HP nitrous car couldn't beat a 1,000 HP turbo car at the same race weight and the same approximate power curve.

what is heavier, a pound of gold or a pound of cotton?

bgstew6 · 10-21-2011, 02:03 PM

what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

10-21-2011, 11:35 AM	#122
slowgreen99 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 7,740	My car has nowhere near 300 because of the stock block. I cant out power Zac, and that's a given. It may be close, may be ugly, but im not wanting to ruin any chances I may have against other people. There's a reason there's a "bump" spot in the low 5s with "no boost" cars, and the bump for cars with boost is a 4.8ish....Boost will phuck nitrous cars up built on an identical platform. Me and Zac arent on the same platform, so that's not even an option. __________________ M.R.E. Bad Bob Motorsports

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1998ta__1991rs Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West Ash Posts: 4,283	Class racing has rouined grudge racing for the slower turbo cars. Just because my car is turbod they expect it to be a 5.30 car and its its nowhere close. __________________ Funny

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BigdaddyDupree Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MACEDONIA Posts: 4,967	Jtstreet thinks too much into it. __________________ . What you wanna do?

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