2013 Ford Mustang (now 420hpand 2013 GT500 infos. GT500 indeed gets 5.8L 650hp V8! - Page 2

gearmesh, inc. · 11-15-2011, 11:50 AM

I was just studying that exploded pic of the supercharged 5.8 engine. I didn't see any variable camshaft timing phasers at all! Maybe Ford is learning their lesson.

You would think that a car commanding such a high price tag would at lest have shorty headers on it.

Oh well, maybe the common man can find a used one of these 10 to 15 years from now for an affordable price.

REDRAGTOPRS · 11-15-2011, 11:51 AM

I read somewhere that the price tag would be just under 100k for the 2013 gt-500. The ZR1 corvette cost 110k. What I read, may be inaccurate though.....

ForceFed4g63 · 11-15-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by REDRAGTOPRS

I read somewhere that the price tag would be just under 100k for the 2013 gt-500. The ZR1 corvette cost 110k. What I read, may be inaccurate though.....

I will be absolutely stunned beyond belief if they DOUBLE the price tag, I don't know that I believe that...

chrisheltra · 11-15-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by REDRAGTOPRS

I read somewhere that the price tag would be just under 100k for the 2013 gt-500. The ZR1 corvette cost 110k. What I read, may be inaccurate though.....

Link?

REDRAGTOPRS · 11-15-2011, 12:32 PM

I do a lot of online reading, and saw it a while back, but it was mere speculation, considering that Ford redid all their tooling and ran extensive testing on this new model, which is completely revamped from the old model. I would not be surprised if it's 80k-100k at all. This new shelby cannot be compared to the old 55k shelby in my opinion, as it sets a new benchmark for the car, and even the top speed is no longer governed at 155, but rather 200mph. That is supercar status, which is why I put it up there in price with the ZR1 vette.....

chrisheltra · 11-15-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by REDRAGTOPRS

I do a lot of online reading, and saw it a while back, but it was mere speculation, considering that Ford redid all their tooling and ran extensive testing on this new model, which is completely revamped from the old model. I would not be surprised if it's 80k-100k at all. This new shelby cannot be compared to the old 55k shelby in my opinion, as it sets a new benchmark for the car, and even the top speed is no longer governed at 155, but rather 200mph. That is supercar status, which is why I put it up there in price with the ZR1 vette.....

Its direct performance competitor is the ZL1. Why would Ford price themselves out of the market?

So because you read a lot online, its new, is "capable" of reaching 200mph and has supercar status it will be 80-100k?

Just because a car can go a certain speed doenst mean it will. My car is capable of going faster than 155 but cant due to the speed limiter and I have tested it myself.

clubracergt1 · 11-15-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gearmesh, inc.

I was just studying that exploded pic of the supercharged 5.8 engine. I didn't see any variable camshaft timing phasers at all! Maybe Ford is learning their lesson.

You would think that a car commanding such a high price tag would at lest have shorty headers on it.

About the cam phasers, I didn't see them either; but it looks like the cam covers have openings for the CVT solenoids. I guess time will tell. And I agree on the manifolds. Hell, the GT gets better looking 'headers' than that.

1iron · 11-15-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by REDRAGTOPRS

I do a lot of online reading, and saw it a while back, but it was mere speculation, considering that Ford redid all their tooling and ran extensive testing on this new model, which is completely revamped from the old model. I would not be surprised if it's 80k-100k at all. This new shelby cannot be compared to the old 55k shelby in my opinion, as it sets a new benchmark for the car, and even the top speed is no longer governed at 155, but rather 200mph. That is supercar status, which is why I put it up there in price with the ZR1 vette.....

BigdaddyDupree · 11-15-2011, 02:00 PM

You can't compare a corvette to a Mustang. That's like comparing a 2500hd to a Tacoma. Different classes completely

REDRAGTOPRS · 11-15-2011, 02:34 PM

Riiiiiiggggggghhhhhhttttt.......(rolls eyes).....

BigdaddyDupree · 11-15-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by REDRAGTOPRS

Riiiiiiggggggghhhhhhttttt.......(rolls eyes).....

?????

1iron · 11-15-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gearmesh, inc.

I was just studying that exploded pic of the supercharged 5.8 engine. I didn't see any variable camshaft timing phasers at all! Maybe Ford is learning their lesson.

You would think that a car commanding such a high price tag would at lest have shorty headers on it.

Oh well, maybe the common man can find a used one of these 10 to 15 years from now for an affordable price.

Are you sure that is the 5.8? The blower is not the same.

LXtasy · 11-15-2011, 02:53 PM

Just wait to compare vehicles when prices come out.

Shane361 · 11-15-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BigdaddyDupree

You can't compare a corvette to a Mustang. That's like comparing a 2500hd to a Tacoma. Different classes completely

Sure ya can...HP to Weight Ratio, Cost per HP ratio..for starters.

What is Ford using a 2.3 when 4.0 are out?

gearmesh, inc. · 11-15-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 1iron

Are you sure that is the 5.8? The blower is not the same.

Hell, I figured that since the exploded pic was in the same series of pictures as the new GT500, it was probably the one that belongs in it

Who knows for sure? I know I don't have the money to buy one to find out!

Darryl Buckner · 11-15-2011, 04:39 PM

Don't forget the local Ford dealers putting a limited production mark up of 20,000. on it right off the rip..

03SVTCOBRA · 11-15-2011, 05:38 PM

Ide be suprised if its over 70k. Im not sure why they chose to use that shitty blower anyways over whipple/KB. They already had huge sucess with the cobra jet using the whipple on the 5.4 motor... why not keep the 4.0 whipple on the 5.8 and make some huge power. Im curious to see how much these things will hold on stock parts... and then when aftermarket parts come out ill have to sell my soul to try and squeeze one in my cobra. For now ill have to crank up the boost on the lil 4.6 to keep up.

LXtasy · 11-15-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Darryl Buckner

Don't forget the local Ford dealers putting a limited production mark up of 20,000. on it right off the rip..

Winner

chrisheltra · 11-15-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Darryl Buckner

Don't forget the local Ford dealers putting a limited production mark up of 20,000. on it right off the rip..

I saw that at the dealers on the GT500's while shopping for my car. So we already know they will cost at least $20,000.

namewastaken_0_0 · 11-16-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra

Where the GT500's considered "cheap speed" mustangs? I would have thought that term would have been reserved for the GT.

Poor Chevy spends all that time and money developing the ZL1 just to be out done before their car is ever released. Bwahaha.

7:41 on the burgerkingring is not bad at all.......for the price tag suspected of/at/around 54k or so.......not many cars, in fact I cannot think of another car that can compare for the price: performance.

I honestly did not read about the new GT-500......but none the less......the ZL1 is pretty bad ass....Chevy and Ford have really revamped their performance based cars.

None the less, both will be great cars, hope they compare in pricing, and will be great to see both on the ring, and at the track and see who's mod's better.

edit: Seems like Boss 302's are going for 74k to 48k......I am guessing with riceflation that the ZL1 will be at/around that same price range.

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REDRAGTOPRS Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Charleston Posts: 490	I read somewhere that the price tag would be just under 100k for the 2013 gt-500. The ZR1 corvette cost 110k. What I read, may be inaccurate though..... __________________ 2008 LS3 Corvette, A & A Vi3 trim blower, 664 crank hp at 8.5psi, ZR1 clutch, Billy Boat Fusion SS exhaust with mild to wild switch, Custom leather accents..... *FOR SALE* 2001 Black Pontiac Trans Am Ws6 Convertible, Michelin Pilot Sport cups mounted on 2008 black zo6 rims.

11-15-2011, 12:32 PM	#25
REDRAGTOPRS Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Charleston Posts: 490	I do a lot of online reading, and saw it a while back, but it was mere speculation, considering that Ford redid all their tooling and ran extensive testing on this new model, which is completely revamped from the old model. I would not be surprised if it's 80k-100k at all. This new shelby cannot be compared to the old 55k shelby in my opinion, as it sets a new benchmark for the car, and even the top speed is no longer governed at 155, but rather 200mph. That is supercar status, which is why I put it up there in price with the ZR1 vette..... __________________ 2008 LS3 Corvette, A & A Vi3 trim blower, 664 crank hp at 8.5psi, ZR1 clutch, Billy Boat Fusion SS exhaust with mild to wild switch, Custom leather accents..... *FOR SALE* 2001 Black Pontiac Trans Am Ws6 Convertible, Michelin Pilot Sport cups mounted on 2008 black zo6 rims.

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BigdaddyDupree Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MACEDONIA Posts: 4,967	You can't compare a corvette to a Mustang. That's like comparing a 2500hd to a Tacoma. Different classes completely __________________ . What you wanna do?

11-15-2011, 02:34 PM	#30
REDRAGTOPRS Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Charleston Posts: 490	Riiiiiiggggggghhhhhhttttt.......(rolls eyes)..... __________________ 2008 LS3 Corvette, A & A Vi3 trim blower, 664 crank hp at 8.5psi, ZR1 clutch, Billy Boat Fusion SS exhaust with mild to wild switch, Custom leather accents..... *FOR SALE* 2001 Black Pontiac Trans Am Ws6 Convertible, Michelin Pilot Sport cups mounted on 2008 black zo6 rims.

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LXtasy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 9,564	Just wait to compare vehicles when prices come out. __________________

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Darryl Buckner The Top Dog Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,318	Don't forget the local Ford dealers putting a limited production mark up of 20,000. on it right off the rip.. __________________ When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson

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03SVTCOBRA Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,041	Ide be suprised if its over 70k. Im not sure why they chose to use that shitty blower anyways over whipple/KB. They already had huge sucess with the cobra jet using the whipple on the 5.4 motor... why not keep the 4.0 whipple on the 5.8 and make some huge power. Im curious to see how much these things will hold on stock parts... and then when aftermarket parts come out ill have to sell my soul to try and squeeze one in my cobra. For now ill have to crank up the boost on the lil 4.6 to keep up. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]