camshaft innovations pro or con

wsa111 · 10-31-2008, 09:02 PM

Has anyone dealt with this company??
I sent in some specs & this guy called jay the cam master says he wants payment before he gives me the specs on the camshaft.
All i wanted to know is advertised duration, duration @ .050 & lift.
He said he wanted payment before he would give me his recommendation of specs on my application.
Well i told him to FU-K himself, that i was not going to pay for a product without knowing the specs.
I have a damm good idea of what i wanted, but this guy would not budge.
Just wondered if anyone has dealt with him before. Bill

Jeff · 10-31-2008, 09:32 PM

Jay Allen is one of the best when it comes to custom cam shafts . I know 2 guys locally who use him and the cam he cut for them made come major power over a anderson cam . Tons of people use him and you're the only one I've ever read anything negative over .

And ofcourse he would want payment before disclosing " custom " specs . He wants to get paid for his knowledge . I mean how easy would it be to take the same specs and get them cut from someone cheaper .

I plan on getting a cam from him in the near future and honestly have no problem paying . Tons of fast cars can't be wrong .

WWhittle · 10-31-2008, 10:13 PM

i have to agree with jeff- a real deal camshaft guy isn't going to tell you shit unless you pay him.

try this one- i paid ProLine alot of money for a motor and they won't tell me the specs on the cam. The motor that was in the Trans Am was a Fulton motor and he would not give the specs either.

Find a camshaft company that you believe in and pay them to do their thing.

WTFWSAT · 11-02-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by streetsweeper

try this one- i paid ProLine alot of money for a motor and they won't tell me the specs on the cam.

Do you know who grinds their cams ? or are they tight lipped about that too ?
Ill be looking to get an actual "turbo" cam in the near future.

I have read good things about CI and have been leaning towards them for a while. Read up in Hardcore50.com alot of guys use his cams.

Chris

Bradleyrj · 11-02-2008, 01:28 PM

He is very good. But he's a dickhead.. I've talked to him personally a few times and was not impressed. Talk with Ed Curtis, another excellent cam guru who still wont disclose custom cam stuff (can't blame either one of them) but he doesnt have near the ego / attitude problems Jay Allen does.

WWhittle · 11-02-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WTFWSAT

Do you know who grinds their cams ? or are they tight lipped about that too ?
Ill be looking to get an actual "turbo" cam in the near future.

I have read good things about CI and have been leaning towards them for a while. Read up in Hardcore50.com alot of guys use his cams.

Chris

i believe they come from Comp

Darryl Buckner · 11-03-2008, 10:52 PM

I think that CI is the place that Jason at Performance CNC got my cam from for the LTD. It was either them or Cam Motion. My Bennett Racing cam in the 408, has no specs either, all ground off. They did however give me the centerline info for degreeing purposes....

1998ta__1991rs · 11-03-2008, 11:11 PM

hell when i got the 2nd cam in the tbss alvin at pcmforless wouldnt tell me the specs, but the cam was a proven cam and it worked well

10-31-2008, 09:02 PM	#1
wsa111 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: goose creek, sc Posts: 121	camshaft innovations pro or con Has anyone dealt with this company?? I sent in some specs & this guy called jay the cam master says he wants payment before he gives me the specs on the camshaft. All i wanted to know is advertised duration, duration @ .050 & lift. He said he wanted payment before he would give me his recommendation of specs on my application. Well i told him to FU-K himself, that i was not going to pay for a product without knowing the specs. I have a damm good idea of what i wanted, but this guy would not budge. Just wondered if anyone has dealt with him before. Bill Last edited by wsa111; 11-01-2008 at 05:29 PM.

10-31-2008, 09:32 PM	#2
Jeff Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,015	Jay Allen is one of the best when it comes to custom cam shafts . I know 2 guys locally who use him and the cam he cut for them made come major power over a anderson cam . Tons of people use him and you're the only one I've ever read anything negative over . And ofcourse he would want payment before disclosing " custom " specs . He wants to get paid for his knowledge . I mean how easy would it be to take the same specs and get them cut from someone cheaper . I plan on getting a cam from him in the near future and honestly have no problem paying . Tons of fast cars can't be wrong . __________________ Boat .

11-02-2008, 01:28 PM	#5
Bradleyrj Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Myrtle Beach Posts: 2,347	He is very good. But he's a dickhead.. I've talked to him personally a few times and was not impressed. Talk with Ed Curtis, another excellent cam guru who still wont disclose custom cam stuff (can't blame either one of them) but he doesnt have near the ego / attitude problems Jay Allen does. __________________

11-03-2008, 11:11 PM	#8
1998ta__1991rs Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West Ash Posts: 4,283	hell when i got the 2nd cam in the tbss alvin at pcmforless wouldnt tell me the specs, but the cam was a proven cam and it worked well __________________ Funny

10-31-2008, 10:13 PM	#3
WWhittle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC Posts: 3,899	i have to agree with jeff- a real deal camshaft guy isn't going to tell you shit unless you pay him. try this one- i paid ProLine alot of money for a motor and they won't tell me the specs on the cam. The motor that was in the Trans Am was a Fulton motor and he would not give the specs either. Find a camshaft company that you believe in and pay them to do their thing.

11-03-2008, 10:52 PM	#7
Darryl Buckner The Top Dog Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,318	I think that CI is the place that Jason at Performance CNC got my cam from for the LTD. It was either them or Cam Motion. My Bennett Racing cam in the 408, has no specs either, all ground off. They did however give me the centerline info for degreeing purposes....