is it worth it? ls1 guys chime in.

s14.5gonewide · 11-15-2009, 07:56 PM

so yea ive wanted a ws6... been posted that.. i love 240sx... my sn should give that away.. so a customer has offered me a trade plus cash on my end for his car.. hear is the run down.

Engine:
Motor has around 80,000 miles on it
Trans and clutch, flywheel around 200 miles
LS1 block
LS6 intake manifold
LS6 heads ported / polished
Titanium retainers
Crane springs
Crane valves 205/157
Hardened pushrods
Comp cam custom grind 232/236-542/545 Lobe seperation 113
Ported LS2 oil pump
LS2 front sump oil pan
Ported Throttle body
MAF no screen
34lb injectors
Custom 1-3/8th headers
Dynomax bullet mufflers
Custom mild steel coolant piping, no hoses
High torque starter
Steel braided high pressure power steering line
Billet steel cnc's solid motor mounts
Custom subframe crossmember for motor
Custom transmission mount
Pro 5.0 shifter and short stick with Hurst leather shifter knob
Built T-56 6-speed transmission from Tick Performance for 700hp
One piece steel drive shaft
Tomei Technical Traxx 2-way LSD
Koyo aluminum radiator
Electric fan wired to switch inside car
160 degree thermostat to keep it cool
Spec 3+ clutch and billet steel flywheel
Steel braided slave cylinder line and custom slave cylinder with mounting
CNC's custom factory sway bar spacers to clear oil pan
Walboro 255 fuel pump
Spliced wire harness to make it all work
423whp and 423tq, which is roughly 450 on a dynojet.

Suspension:
KYB adjustable shocks
Tein springs
TC Sportline ruca's
TC Sportline traction rods
TC Sportline upper toe adjustors
TC Sportline lower toe adjustors
Polyurethane subframe bushing kit

Exterior:
Sleepy eye conversion
Origin body kit with clear front square markers
Painted over center garnish on rear
Rattle can flat black

Lighting:
8000k HID kit installed
LED tag light
LED front amber markers

Brakes/wheels:
5 Zigen FNO1RC wheels gloss black with silver lip
Front 17x8.5 5x114.3
Rear 17x9.5 5x114.3
Steel braided brake lines
Front brakes: 350z Track edition slotted rotors and Z32 calipers
Rear brakes: Z32 rotors and calipers

the body/paint is a no biggie... i would change it up... just looking for opinions

s14.5gonewide · 11-15-2009, 07:59 PM

ohh yea trade would be my vr6 jetta and some cash on top.

BAD BOB · 11-15-2009, 08:05 PM

get it. oh and does it have 1 3/8 or 1 3/4 headers? it would be tough to make that power on small headers

s14.5gonewide · 11-15-2009, 08:06 PM

only way is custom headers on that swap... i cant reamember the inside diameter. or colector size.

BAD BOB · 11-15-2009, 08:08 PM

i just never heard of anyone building that small of header. if it is that small then have a different set built and make more power

s14.5gonewide · 11-15-2009, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAD BOB

i just never heard of anyone building that small of header. if it is that small then have a different set built and make more power

always an option... just nice to have a turn key car like this.. i can do my own things.. fast manifold turbo/supercharger all the big parts are done.

as far as aero/body it would get a full paint job and new aero.. and rims.. deffantly a widebody with some meat out back.

s14.5gonewide · 11-15-2009, 09:51 PM

so whats the good word?
it looks liek a do able trade.. what other mods can i do that will allow more power without major mods.?

i am a domestic newbie.. ill admit it.

6.0 block? fast manifold? spray?

AverageJoe · 11-15-2009, 10:10 PM

larger dia headers, higher ~.600 lift cam same duration, Fast 92.... I would consider a 6.0 block a major mod.

s14.5gonewide · 11-15-2009, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AverageJoe

larger dia headers, higher ~.600 lift cam same duration, Fast 92.... I would consider a 6.0 block a major mod.

care to explane why a 6.0 is a major mod..?
i would deffantly concider a fast 92/92 tb setup
me and cam with a domestic is like spanish to me.

ElecTech · 11-15-2009, 10:46 PM

Not that it matters, but the rundown said "MAF no screens". That engine has no MAF.

It's not the cleanest swap I've seen, but those cars are fun with LS swaps. Whatever engine upgrades you do, stick with an aluminum block.

Could be a good trade. My only concern would be the integrity of the wiring. That can cause a lot of lost time, money and frustration. Plus, I'd hate to see it burn to the ground the first day you have it.

1998ta__1991rs · 11-15-2009, 10:47 PM

that is a tiny cam for a ls1, a 6.0 block wouldnt be that bad of a swap. sounds like a good setup

s14.5gonewide · 11-15-2009, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElecTech

Not that it matters, but the rundown said "MAF no screens". That engine has no MAF.

It's not the cleanest swap I've seen, but those cars are fun with LS swaps. Whatever engine upgrades you do, stick with an aluminum block.

Could be a good trade. My only concern would be the integrity of the wiring. That can cause a lot of lost time, money and frustration. Plus, I'd hate to see it burn to the ground the first day you have it.

car has been done for over a year... and driving.. so im ont concerned about wiring..

s14.5gonewide · 11-15-2009, 11:00 PM

i like the setup the way it is.. not like its got a big body or a ton of weight to move...

ive seen these cars run down z06 with similar whp becasue of power/weight

what do u think the 92/92 fast manifold would do? whp wize with listed mods.

im sure the cam was chose for street use. im sure their are better options..

BigdaddyDupree · 11-15-2009, 11:00 PM

lots of duration and no lift whatsoever

BAD BOB · 11-15-2009, 11:07 PM

stay aluminum block and unless you plan on spraying alot of NOS then a iron block realy aint needed. my ls1 with gas moves pretty good for having a stock ls1 intake stock heads and a cam and headers. so with what you got now would work pretty well. if its a stock rear i would worry about that the most with a manual trans by they are alot harder on launches than a auto. just get it and start sinking money into it. it will all be ok

s14.5gonewide · 11-15-2009, 11:21 PM

ahh he backed out.. is getting a trade for a 350z and some cash on top

AverageJoe · 11-16-2009, 01:00 AM

building a new motor isn't a major mod?

Matts94Z28 · 11-16-2009, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AverageJoe

building a new motor isn't a major mod?

I do it quite often

Robert Holton · 11-16-2009, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigdaddyDupree

lots of duration and no lift whatsoever

what u know bout lift and duration

BigdaddyDupree · 11-16-2009, 05:53 PM

a lil bit. enough to know thats alot of duration and not much lift? what you know?

11-15-2009, 07:56 PM	#1
s14.5gonewide Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: north charleston Posts: 1,657	is it worth it? ls1 guys chime in. so yea ive wanted a ws6... been posted that.. i love 240sx... my sn should give that away.. so a customer has offered me a trade plus cash on my end for his car.. hear is the run down. Engine: Motor has around 80,000 miles on it Trans and clutch, flywheel around 200 miles LS1 block LS6 intake manifold LS6 heads ported / polished Titanium retainers Crane springs Crane valves 205/157 Hardened pushrods Comp cam custom grind 232/236-542/545 Lobe seperation 113 Ported LS2 oil pump LS2 front sump oil pan Ported Throttle body MAF no screen 34lb injectors Custom 1-3/8th headers Dynomax bullet mufflers Custom mild steel coolant piping, no hoses High torque starter Steel braided high pressure power steering line Billet steel cnc's solid motor mounts Custom subframe crossmember for motor Custom transmission mount Pro 5.0 shifter and short stick with Hurst leather shifter knob Built T-56 6-speed transmission from Tick Performance for 700hp One piece steel drive shaft Tomei Technical Traxx 2-way LSD Koyo aluminum radiator Electric fan wired to switch inside car 160 degree thermostat to keep it cool Spec 3+ clutch and billet steel flywheel Steel braided slave cylinder line and custom slave cylinder with mounting CNC's custom factory sway bar spacers to clear oil pan Walboro 255 fuel pump Spliced wire harness to make it all work 423whp and 423tq, which is roughly 450 on a dynojet. Suspension: KYB adjustable shocks Tein springs TC Sportline ruca's TC Sportline traction rods TC Sportline upper toe adjustors TC Sportline lower toe adjustors Polyurethane subframe bushing kit Exterior: Sleepy eye conversion Origin body kit with clear front square markers Painted over center garnish on rear Rattle can flat black Lighting: 8000k HID kit installed LED tag light LED front amber markers Brakes/wheels: 5 Zigen FNO1RC wheels gloss black with silver lip Front 17x8.5 5x114.3 Rear 17x9.5 5x114.3 Steel braided brake lines Front brakes: 350z Track edition slotted rotors and Z32 calipers Rear brakes: Z32 rotors and calipers the body/paint is a no biggie... i would change it up... just looking for opinions __________________

11-15-2009, 07:59 PM	#2
s14.5gonewide Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: north charleston Posts: 1,657	ohh yea trade would be my vr6 jetta and some cash on top. __________________

11-15-2009, 08:05 PM	#3
BAD BOB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SUMMERVILLE Posts: 3,681	get it. oh and does it have 1 3/8 or 1 3/4 headers? it would be tough to make that power on small headers __________________ IM BAD BOB

11-15-2009, 08:06 PM	#4
s14.5gonewide Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: north charleston Posts: 1,657	only way is custom headers on that swap... i cant reamember the inside diameter. or colector size. __________________

11-15-2009, 08:08 PM	#5
BAD BOB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SUMMERVILLE Posts: 3,681	i just never heard of anyone building that small of header. if it is that small then have a different set built and make more power __________________ IM BAD BOB

11-15-2009, 09:51 PM	#7
s14.5gonewide Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: north charleston Posts: 1,657	so whats the good word? it looks liek a do able trade.. what other mods can i do that will allow more power without major mods.? i am a domestic newbie.. ill admit it. 6.0 block? fast manifold? spray? __________________

11-15-2009, 10:46 PM	#10
ElecTech Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,489	Not that it matters, but the rundown said "MAF no screens". That engine has no MAF. It's not the cleanest swap I've seen, but those cars are fun with LS swaps. Whatever engine upgrades you do, stick with an aluminum block. Could be a good trade. My only concern would be the integrity of the wiring. That can cause a lot of lost time, money and frustration. Plus, I'd hate to see it burn to the ground the first day you have it. __________________ Jaime

11-15-2009, 10:47 PM	#11
1998ta__1991rs Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West Ash Posts: 4,283	that is a tiny cam for a ls1, a 6.0 block wouldnt be that bad of a swap. sounds like a good setup __________________ Funny

11-15-2009, 11:00 PM	#13
s14.5gonewide Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: north charleston Posts: 1,657	i like the setup the way it is.. not like its got a big body or a ton of weight to move... ive seen these cars run down z06 with similar whp becasue of power/weight what do u think the 92/92 fast manifold would do? whp wize with listed mods. im sure the cam was chose for street use. im sure their are better options.. __________________

11-15-2009, 11:00 PM	#14
BigdaddyDupree Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MACEDONIA Posts: 4,967	lots of duration and no lift whatsoever __________________ . What you wanna do?

11-15-2009, 11:07 PM	#15
BAD BOB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SUMMERVILLE Posts: 3,681	stay aluminum block and unless you plan on spraying alot of NOS then a iron block realy aint needed. my ls1 with gas moves pretty good for having a stock ls1 intake stock heads and a cam and headers. so with what you got now would work pretty well. if its a stock rear i would worry about that the most with a manual trans by they are alot harder on launches than a auto. just get it and start sinking money into it. it will all be ok __________________ IM BAD BOB

11-15-2009, 11:21 PM	#16
s14.5gonewide Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: north charleston Posts: 1,657	ahh he backed out.. is getting a trade for a 350z and some cash on top __________________

11-16-2009, 05:53 PM	#20
BigdaddyDupree Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MACEDONIA Posts: 4,967	a lil bit. enough to know thats alot of duration and not much lift? what you know? __________________ . What you wanna do?