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Old 11-29-2010, 07:50 AM   #21
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I was referring to me and that is no joke. So poor I can't pay attention!



Yes it does. Here is a picture of the inside.

Something about that picture just isn't right. Why would you have a shaft go through an area where lots of air will flow?

Why not use this blower kit?
http://kennebell.net/KBWebsite/SC_pg...outs/Dodge.htm
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:52 AM   #22
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Something about that picture just isn't right. Why would you have a shaft go through an area where lots of air will flow?

Why not use this blower kit?
http://kennebell.net/KBWebsite/SC_pg...outs/Dodge.htm
Because that costs about 2000.00 more and at this power level there is little benefit. Besides, I have installed one of those on a 2010 Challenger and it sucks nuts! The install time is nearly double and they don't look as clean when installed, IMO. Basicly, this is the look the owner was after.

I would think if it were a major restriction, Magnacharger would have used a different design.
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Old 11-29-2010, 10:42 AM   #23
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Wow.. The power level is little benefit.. If clean is a "stock look" then Magna Charger is an excellent product.

No doubt Magna Charger makes a quality product, though I'm sure KenneBell flows better. The 6.1L engine with the KB installed by multiple vendors made just over 1000 hp. Very impressive..
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Old 11-29-2010, 11:12 AM   #24
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Wow.. The power level is little benefit.. If clean is a "stock look" then Magna Charger is an excellent product.

No doubt Magna Charger makes a quality product, though I'm sure KenneBell flows better. The 6.1L engine with the KB installed by multiple vendors made just over 1000 hp. Very impressive..
I said AT this power level, meaning the intended power level of this car. If this were a max effort build, the KB gets the nod.

Those 1000 HP 6.1's were not stock 6.1L engines, but the KB is certainly capable of getting one there. The stock pistons and rods won't tolerate much over 750 crankshaft HP for long. The cranks are forged stock and are good for much more.
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Old 11-29-2010, 05:57 PM   #25
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What power level is this guy shooting for? i would think the new hemi's could make 600 or so on motor pretty easily
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:09 PM   #26
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I hope the owner has plans for bigger wheels/tires. I wonder how wide one can go without tubbing it?
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:00 PM   #27
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That Magnacharger setup is very clean looking. I also noticed the aftermarket drive by wire throttle body.

I wonder if there's a company out there has brought to market any throttle cable conversions along with the necessary program changes to get rid of the drive by wire???
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Old 11-29-2010, 11:21 PM   #28
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What are you going to use to tune it?
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Old 11-29-2010, 11:56 PM   #29
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What power level is this guy shooting for? i would think the new hemi's could make 600 or so on motor pretty easily
He's hoping for about 600whp. The Hemis have the potential to make that kind of power on motor, but they are RPM limited when used with factory ecu's. The TCM will command the limit (about 6200 rpm) and there is no real fix of yet. The last Stage II head/cam/intake package we did put 475HP to the wheels. Our HHP/BES 426 package will put about 650+ to the crank.

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That Magnacharger setup is very clean looking. I also noticed the aftermarket drive by wire throttle body.

I wonder if there's a company out there has brought to market any throttle cable conversions along with the necessary program changes to get rid of the drive by wire???
MOPAR Perf has an AEM based ECU that uses a cable TB for retrofits. Big money!

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What are you going to use to tune it?
We use Diablo CMR for the Dodge/Chrysler stuff. We also offer it for GM if anyone has or wants a handheld, but most don't.
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Old 12-02-2010, 04:16 PM   #30
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looks to be a sweet ride...nice job!!!
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Old 12-02-2010, 04:43 PM   #31
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looks to be a sweet ride...nice job!!!
Thanks! I'm hoping to start getting some seat time this weekend. The owner is really getting anxious.
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Old 12-05-2010, 12:38 PM   #32
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Got a little more project porn to share.

The DDS driveshaft assembly is in along with the Moroso driveshaft loop, the Kooks headers and highflow cats are in, and the Corsa Extreme exhaust is installed. The front springs and swaybar was installed and the SLP line lock was plumbed in.

With all of this completed the base calibration was put in so the fluids could be topped off and the tuning will begin shortly.

We still have a pillar gauge pod to go in and be wired, as well as, wiring the line lock, finalize the street/drivability portions of the calibration, and then the dyno tuning will take place. The owner was there to hear the initial start-up and is now REALLY antsy to get his car back, but we definately want to make sure the car is right and "debugged" before we turn it over.

More to come... stay tuned!



Aluminum flange adapters installed




DSS driveshaft installed along with the Moroso DS loop






Kooks longtube headers and high flow cats along with the Corsa Extreme exhaust. These items fit like a glove and really show the quality and performance you get for your money.





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Old 12-05-2010, 01:46 PM   #33
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Man, That is a nice and clean look. I like it.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:01 PM   #34
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Really nice work here.
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I got to see/hear the car this past Saturday. The guys at HHP are doing a great job with this build!
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Old 12-06-2010, 08:54 AM   #36
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Thanks for the kind words everyone. I wan't to clarify that you don't need to spend thousands of dollars to get this level of work with us. I strive to put the same attention to detail into everything that comes into the shop. I'd rather stop building cars if I couldn't do it the way I feel they should be and I have told Jeff the same. Jeff trusts me enough to give me the final say on cars that leave, even though as the owner of the company, he could tell me to go fuck myself. I can't stand half ass and I thank him for seeing it my way.

Matt, it was nice to finally meet you. Stop by anytime.
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:46 PM   #37
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The challenger has almost the same rear end to driveshaft adapter as the GTO's
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The challenger has almost the same rear end to driveshaft adapter as the GTO's
Yea, it's a very common European design. Mercedes, who helped designed this platform, has been using the rubber couplers since the sixties, maybe earlier, and the GTO= Holden, so.
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Thanks for the kind words everyone. I wan't to clarify that you don't need to spend thousands of dollars to get this level of work with us. I strive to put the same attention to detail into everything that comes into the shop. I'd rather stop building cars if I couldn't do it the way I feel they should be and I have told Jeff the same. Jeff trusts me enough to give me the final say on cars that leave, even though as the owner of the company, he could tell me to go fuck myself. I can't stand half ass and I thank him for seeing it my way.

Matt, it was nice to finally meet you. Stop by anytime.
I was looking at the 1 gen camaro a while back someone is pretty handy welding up exhaust.
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