Opinions on widebands?

Oceanside78 · 10-23-2012, 11:43 AM

Looking to pick up a wideband to monitor AFRs and there seems to be a ton. I already have two 'Pro-Comp ultra-lite' gauges for FP and Boost, but have heard from numerous people they don't make a good AF gauge. Don't really care if the gauge doesn't match as it won't be put in a similar spot, just want to keep an eye on AFs accurately. Suggestions?

ForceFed4g63 · 10-23-2012, 11:45 AM

AEM UEGO is always good, I personally prefer Innovate though because you can datalog with it.

bgstew6 · 10-23-2012, 11:48 AM

can data log with aem uego as well...wtih SCT xcal tuning device...just need to wire up to 0-5 analog output of the WB to a firewire cable or 2.0 usb cable and then run SCT Live Link and datalog the wb right alongside all the other PIDS that you want to datalog.

Oceanside78 · 10-23-2012, 11:52 AM

Do those come with a mount or do I need to get one of those as well? Is the a single gauge pod that fits well on our trucks. My other two are mounted in dash independently.

DolSVT00 · 10-23-2012, 11:53 AM

You can datalog with any of them.

The innovate and aem are the most accurate, the innovate being slightly better because of its response time.

The wideband commander is good too and comes with the best software for datalogging out of all of them.

The autometer is like the AEM but has a couple extra fetures.

Out of all of them, the aem is the most dummy proof.

DolSVT00 · 10-23-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Oceanside78

Do those come with a mount or do I need to get one of those as well? Is the a single gauge pod that fits well on our trucks. My other two are mounted in dash independently.

You need to get a mount.

ForceFed4g63 · 10-23-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bgstew6

can data log with aem uego as well...wtih SCT xcal tuning device...just need to wire up to 0-5 analog output of the WB to a firewire cable or 2.0 usb cable and then run SCT Live Link and datalog the wb right alongside all the other PIDS that you want to datalog.

True, I just meant the Innovate is plug and play, no wiring needed.

schardbody · 10-23-2012, 12:07 PM

Aem only because it requires no calibration...

Oceanside78 · 10-23-2012, 12:10 PM

Didn't even know you had to calibrate them. What's that entail if I went with something else?

BigdaddyDupree · 10-23-2012, 12:10 PM

I have the wideand commander its bad ass

chrisheltra · 10-23-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFed4g63

True, I just meant the Innovate is plug and play, no wiring needed.

That was not the case with my XD-16/LC-1 and Xcal2 setup.

ForceFed4g63 · 10-23-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra

That was not the case with my XD-16/LC-1 and Xcal2 setup.

You can datalog with the LC-1 directly on your computer.

ForceFed4g63 · 10-23-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Oceanside78

Didn't even know you had to calibrate them. What's that entail if I went with something else?

It's very simple, you let the sensor hang free in the air, hook up a couple wires and hold down a button they provide.

chrisheltra · 10-23-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFed4g63

You can datalog with the LC-1 directly on your computer.

In order for it to be logged with the rest of the data that the handheld software logged the info had to go through the handheld first. It was kind of a pain in the ass but I made it work.

Oceanside78 · 10-23-2012, 12:26 PM

Great info so far, thanks guys. I guess since there's so many that are of quality, I can pick and choose. When can I find a gauge pod for it? It's going in an 02 Harley F150. I found some universals but don't want to drill holes in my pretty dash lol

chrisheltra · 10-23-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Oceanside78

Great info so far, thanks guys. I guess since there's so many that are of quality, I can pick and choose. When can I find a gauge pod for it? It's going in an 02 Harley F150. I found some universals but don't want to drill holes in my pretty dash lol

http://www.summitracing.com/search/M...ord=pillar+pod

oldskoolstang · 10-23-2012, 02:33 PM

I've only used the aem, but it worked perfectly. Several friends run the Innovate and they all like it.....

Oceanside78 · 10-23-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra

http://www.summitracing.com/search/M...ord=pillar+pod

Thanks, I need a single though. Otherwise ill have to move mine and I love where they're at

schardbody · 10-23-2012, 02:44 PM

I have ran several of the lc-1 and aem. I just prefer the aem because there is no calibration.

The offset also was always better with the aem even with same wiring and same logging software.

Oceanside78 · 10-23-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by schardbody

I have ran several of the lc-1 and aem. I just prefer the aem because there is no calibration.

The offset also was always better with the aem even with same wiring and same logging software.

Offset? What's that pertain to? I have a feeling there's more to a AF gauge than just an AFR readout that I don't know about...

10-23-2012, 11:43 AM	#1
Oceanside78 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Fayetteville Posts: 214	Opinions on widebands? Looking to pick up a wideband to monitor AFRs and there seems to be a ton. I already have two 'Pro-Comp ultra-lite' gauges for FP and Boost, but have heard from numerous people they don't make a good AF gauge. Don't really care if the gauge doesn't match as it won't be put in a similar spot, just want to keep an eye on AFs accurately. Suggestions? __________________ 2002 Harley Davidson F150 Intake-C&L elbow-SBTB-L upper/snout-4# Lower-Bassani catted mid-Bassani Cat Back-VB-Diablo tuned Soon to be: 6# lower-SCT MAF-Custom Tune

10-23-2012, 11:45 AM	#2
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10-23-2012, 11:48 AM	#3
bgstew6 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 444	can data log with aem uego as well...wtih SCT xcal tuning device...just need to wire up to 0-5 analog output of the WB to a firewire cable or 2.0 usb cable and then run SCT Live Link and datalog the wb right alongside all the other PIDS that you want to datalog. __________________ 2k2 Black Harley Davidson SCrew, #1088 21lbs of Pure, Cogged, Kenne Bell Screamin Hell! Touched by the Hand of DolSVT "If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle." - Sun Tzu

10-23-2012, 11:52 AM	#4
Oceanside78 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Fayetteville Posts: 214	Do those come with a mount or do I need to get one of those as well? Is the a single gauge pod that fits well on our trucks. My other two are mounted in dash independently. __________________ 2002 Harley Davidson F150 Intake-C&L elbow-SBTB-L upper/snout-4# Lower-Bassani catted mid-Bassani Cat Back-VB-Diablo tuned Soon to be: 6# lower-SCT MAF-Custom Tune

10-23-2012, 11:53 AM	#5
DolSVT00 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goose Creek Posts: 3,913	You can datalog with any of them. The innovate and aem are the most accurate, the innovate being slightly better because of its response time. The wideband commander is good too and comes with the best software for datalogging out of all of them. The autometer is like the AEM but has a couple extra fetures. Out of all of them, the aem is the most dummy proof. __________________

10-23-2012, 12:07 PM	#8
schardbody Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,158	Aem only because it requires no calibration...

10-23-2012, 12:10 PM	#9
Oceanside78 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Fayetteville Posts: 214	Didn't even know you had to calibrate them. What's that entail if I went with something else? __________________ 2002 Harley Davidson F150 Intake-C&L elbow-SBTB-L upper/snout-4# Lower-Bassani catted mid-Bassani Cat Back-VB-Diablo tuned Soon to be: 6# lower-SCT MAF-Custom Tune

10-23-2012, 12:10 PM	#10
BigdaddyDupree Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MACEDONIA Posts: 4,967	I have the wideand commander its bad ass __________________ . What you wanna do?

10-23-2012, 12:26 PM	#15
Oceanside78 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Fayetteville Posts: 214	Great info so far, thanks guys. I guess since there's so many that are of quality, I can pick and choose. When can I find a gauge pod for it? It's going in an 02 Harley F150. I found some universals but don't want to drill holes in my pretty dash lol __________________ 2002 Harley Davidson F150 Intake-C&L elbow-SBTB-L upper/snout-4# Lower-Bassani catted mid-Bassani Cat Back-VB-Diablo tuned Soon to be: 6# lower-SCT MAF-Custom Tune

10-23-2012, 02:33 PM	#17
oldskoolstang Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Guyton, GA Posts: 1,412	I've only used the aem, but it worked perfectly. Several friends run the Innovate and they all like it..... __________________ Working on junk....

10-23-2012, 02:44 PM	#19
schardbody Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,158	I have ran several of the lc-1 and aem. I just prefer the aem because there is no calibration. The offset also was always better with the aem even with same wiring and same logging software.