4L60E Convertor

Matts94Z28 · 01-21-2009, 02:02 AM

I currently have a 3500-3800 TCI Super Street Fighter convertor in my car, it has been a good convertor on the street but I feel that it might not be very efficient up top causing me to loose a few MPH at the track. I was wondering if Mr. Cameron rebuilds aftermarket convertors or how much he may charge for one of his. When I finally get the time to pull my transmission out I was to do something about this issue. Can anyone give me some information about Mr. Cameron's work and his number? I have heard nothing but good things about him!

gearmesh, inc. · 01-21-2009, 09:26 AM

Cameron's converters have been the most efficient stall converters that I have ever come across. Years back I had a Precision Industries unit in my own ride and it was not as efficient as his converter was of the same stall speed.

I have spoken with Cameron in the past and he uses some of the same components that Precision Industries uses in some of his converters, plus some of his own know-how about which components work well together to make a more efficient converter.

His number is 803.754.8139. I don't know how much improvement he can make with your existing TCI components in your converter, but that will be something he will have to make the call on. If he recommends a separate converter than what you have, I would definitely follow his recomendation.

Darryl Buckner · 01-25-2009, 11:46 AM

Mr Cameron is good at what he does. I have had him loosen up a TCI converter for me, but he is limited by the diameter of the converter. So dont ask him for instance to make an 11" converter 4500stall, but he can make small changes that make a huge difference. Also like Gerald said, if he says you need to make a converter change, he is usually spot on..

minytrker · 01-25-2009, 02:13 PM

Another happy customer here, we use his convertors in everything except 4l60e's. Mr Cameron doesnt deal with them very much and he said he could build one but his price was 2x over any convertor out there. He told me to just get one from PI for a 4l60e.

Matts94Z28 · 01-25-2009, 03:12 PM

I still have not had the chance to call him. I will be doing so on monday, hopefully he can rebuild the one I already have, which is a 10in. If not then I might be forced to shell out some cash on a PI or Circle D.

gearmesh, inc. · 01-26-2009, 12:49 PM

That's too bad on the 2X price for a 4L60E converter. Technically, it is nothing more than a regular converter with a torque converter clutch added inside.

Without talking to Cameron myself lately, I remember single disc TCC units not being that unreasonable on price, but when you step into the realm of tripple disc TCC, then the price almost doubles, as these setups can hold WOT while in lockup. A single disc TCC will only hold lockup for street cruising torque demands.

A lot of folks out there that run the 1/4 mile regularly step up to a multiplate TCC, which will give a few more mph and a tenth or two at the end due to the elimination of converter slip in high gear. Torque multiplication is not really needed from the middle of 3rd gear on through the trap anyway. By the middle of 3rd gear, you should be in the meat of your powerband and it is desireable to transfer all that power to the ground vs. losing energy in an open converter by heating trans fluid via converter flare. As far as the 1/8 mile goes, a multiplate unit will not give you much measureable gain, if at all.

A lot of performance converter builders out there just build a converter without a TCC for high horsepower applications in these late model overdrive transmissions. They claim the conveter is more durable and lighter without the extra moving parts of a TCC. Be aware that your MPG on the street will suffer with an open converter. One thing to keep in mind with Cameron's converters is that if he builds you an open one w/o TCC, it will be among the most efficient converters you will ever find on the market. Your street MPG may not suffer that much with an efficient open converter from him vs. other makes.

All in all it comes down to what you ultimately want to do with your ride. How much is it really going to be driven on the street vs. going down the track? At least an overdrive trans with an open converter will still give you better MPG than an older 3 speed with an open converter.

Matts94Z28 · 02-16-2009, 01:11 PM

Thanks for the information guys! My converter will be going to him at the end of this week to be rebuilt... any advice as to what I should have them do? They already told me that they could make it alot more efficient than TCI and still keep me around the $300 dollar range vs. buying one of their pieces.

01-21-2009, 02:02 AM	#1
Matts94Z28 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 12,039	4L60E Convertor I currently have a 3500-3800 TCI Super Street Fighter convertor in my car, it has been a good convertor on the street but I feel that it might not be very efficient up top causing me to loose a few MPH at the track. I was wondering if Mr. Cameron rebuilds aftermarket convertors or how much he may charge for one of his. When I finally get the time to pull my transmission out I was to do something about this issue. Can anyone give me some information about Mr. Cameron's work and his number? I have heard nothing but good things about him! __________________ Charleston Performance Solutions 4560 Rivers Ave. N. Charleston SC 29405 843-225-1142 https://www.facebook.com/CharlestonPerformanceSolutions www.facebook.com/Selepack

01-25-2009, 11:46 AM	#3
Darryl Buckner The Top Dog Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,318	Mr Cameron is good at what he does. I have had him loosen up a TCI converter for me, but he is limited by the diameter of the converter. So dont ask him for instance to make an 11" converter 4500stall, but he can make small changes that make a huge difference. Also like Gerald said, if he says you need to make a converter change, he is usually spot on.. __________________ When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson

01-25-2009, 03:12 PM	#5
Matts94Z28 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 12,039	I still have not had the chance to call him. I will be doing so on monday, hopefully he can rebuild the one I already have, which is a 10in. If not then I might be forced to shell out some cash on a PI or Circle D. __________________ Charleston Performance Solutions 4560 Rivers Ave. N. Charleston SC 29405 843-225-1142 https://www.facebook.com/CharlestonPerformanceSolutions www.facebook.com/Selepack

02-16-2009, 01:11 PM	#7
Matts94Z28 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 12,039	Thanks for the information guys! My converter will be going to him at the end of this week to be rebuilt... any advice as to what I should have them do? They already told me that they could make it alot more efficient than TCI and still keep me around the $300 dollar range vs. buying one of their pieces. __________________ Charleston Performance Solutions 4560 Rivers Ave. N. Charleston SC 29405 843-225-1142 https://www.facebook.com/CharlestonPerformanceSolutions www.facebook.com/Selepack

01-21-2009, 09:26 AM	#2
gearmesh, inc. creepy azz cracka Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 1,587	Cameron's converters have been the most efficient stall converters that I have ever come across. Years back I had a Precision Industries unit in my own ride and it was not as efficient as his converter was of the same stall speed. I have spoken with Cameron in the past and he uses some of the same components that Precision Industries uses in some of his converters, plus some of his own know-how about which components work well together to make a more efficient converter. His number is 803.754.8139. I don't know how much improvement he can make with your existing TCI components in your converter, but that will be something he will have to make the call on. If he recommends a separate converter than what you have, I would definitely follow his recomendation.

01-25-2009, 02:13 PM	#4
minytrker Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,089	Another happy customer here, we use his convertors in everything except 4l60e's. Mr Cameron doesnt deal with them very much and he said he could build one but his price was 2x over any convertor out there. He told me to just get one from PI for a 4l60e.

01-26-2009, 12:49 PM	#6
gearmesh, inc. creepy azz cracka Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 1,587	That's too bad on the 2X price for a 4L60E converter. Technically, it is nothing more than a regular converter with a torque converter clutch added inside. Without talking to Cameron myself lately, I remember single disc TCC units not being that unreasonable on price, but when you step into the realm of tripple disc TCC, then the price almost doubles, as these setups can hold WOT while in lockup. A single disc TCC will only hold lockup for street cruising torque demands. A lot of folks out there that run the 1/4 mile regularly step up to a multiplate TCC, which will give a few more mph and a tenth or two at the end due to the elimination of converter slip in high gear. Torque multiplication is not really needed from the middle of 3rd gear on through the trap anyway. By the middle of 3rd gear, you should be in the meat of your powerband and it is desireable to transfer all that power to the ground vs. losing energy in an open converter by heating trans fluid via converter flare. As far as the 1/8 mile goes, a multiplate unit will not give you much measureable gain, if at all. A lot of performance converter builders out there just build a converter without a TCC for high horsepower applications in these late model overdrive transmissions. They claim the conveter is more durable and lighter without the extra moving parts of a TCC. Be aware that your MPG on the street will suffer with an open converter. One thing to keep in mind with Cameron's converters is that if he builds you an open one w/o TCC, it will be among the most efficient converters you will ever find on the market. Your street MPG may not suffer that much with an efficient open converter from him vs. other makes. All in all it comes down to what you ultimately want to do with your ride. How much is it really going to be driven on the street vs. going down the track? At least an overdrive trans with an open converter will still give you better MPG than an older 3 speed with an open converter.